Perfect - now looters are stealing everything in Orleans

[erwos]

Originally posted by: ryan256
Support?? Links??

At least one hospital requested _total evacuation_ because of lawlessness, but was unable to do so, because they came under _sniper fire_. Do you think that the snipers are not looters? Please.

The police themselves have stated in _numerous_ stories that they are unable to perform aid because they are increasingly being forced to deal with armed looters, who are getting nearer and nearer the stadium.

-Erwos

 

[DaShen]

A hospital food truck was stolen at gunpoint this morning, too.

 

[Hammer]

Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
Why is everyone saying to shoot every looter? I'm sure there are plenty of people looting right now, I mean it's not great, but what the hell kind of Vigilante justice is everyone promoting. And I'm sure many of you who are saying shoot would do the same thing if you were in that situation.

We shoot someone for stealing now. I think thats a pretty horrible thing to do.

police/national guard shooting looters in a city under martial law isn't "vigilante justice".

 

[ryan256]

Originally posted by: erwos
At least one hospital requested _total evacuation_ because of lawlessness, but was unable to do so, because they came under _sniper fire_. Do you think that the snipers are not looters? Please.

The police themselves have stated in _numerous_ stories that they are unable to perform aid because they are increasingly being forced to deal with armed looters, who are getting nearer and nearer the stadium.
-Erwos

So what do you propose? Mace all the people comming out of wal-mart with bags of groceries??
I'm sure alot of the people looting right now are normally law abiding citizens who are stealing food & the like out of necessity. Once this basic need is met these people will stop looting. Leaving only the dangerous lawless type looting because they can get away with it that yes.. should be delt with harshly.

 

[erwos]

Originally posted by: ryan256
So what do you propose? Mace all the people comming out of wal-mart with bags of groceries??
I'm sure alot of the people looting right now are normally law abiding citizens who are stealing food & the like out of necessity. Once this basic need is met these people will stop looting. Leaving only the dangerous lawless type looting because they can get away with it that yes.. should be delt with harshly.

I suggest that the police take over food distribution, and stop looting entirely. If you had even bothered to read my previous posts, you would have seen that I had already suggested this.

"Law abiding citizens" do not get into firefights with police. You are remarkably naive about what's going on down there, and the scale of which it is happening. Please read the news some more.

-Erwos

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Nebor
National Guardsmen should treat them just like the looters in Baghdad. Bullets. Just drive by and blast anyone with stuff in their hands.

no, cause an american life and an iraqi life are worth completly different amounts.

 

[ryan256]

I have read some of your previous posts and all of them seem to suggest the same thing. Shoot ALL looters. This draconian approach will make things much worse. Do we post guardsmen at a gorcery store to see how many looters with a coolers full of food a .50 caliber browning can hit before they all scatter?? What happens when someone fires back out of self preservation instinct to try and cover their escape?

 

[erwos]

Originally posted by: ryan256
I have read some of your previous posts and all of them seem to suggest the same thing. Shoot ALL looters.

I said shoot all "armed" looters. Way to misinterpret people! Then again, looter-sympathizers like yourself are probably lacking in a little brainpower, so I shouldn't be surprised.

-Erwos

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Nebor
National Guardsmen should treat them just like the looters in Baghdad. Bullets. Just drive by and blast anyone with stuff in their hands.

no, cause an american life and an iraqi life are worth completly different amounts.

oh shutup. iraq wasn't under water. and we let em loot for a good long time to boot so much for that. both situations are sadly similar in response.

 

[ryan256]

Originally posted by: erwos
I said shoot all "armed" looters. Way to misinterpret people! Then again, looter-sympathizers like yourself are probably lacking in a little brainpower, so I shouldn't be surprised.

-Erwos

Maybe you should try using some of your own so-called brain power. Shoot all "armed" looters is going to encompass a much larger number of people than you think. Think about it a minute. Almost everyone in the area has a gun. A few for comitting criminal acts & such but most simply for self defence. Police protection in the area is nonexistant. So most people are doing things they normally wouldn't do for self perservation. Like carrying a gun. National Guardsman aren't going to bother making the distinction between holstered weapon and brandished weapon. Alot of innocent people will be killed.

 

[Calin]

Originally posted by: Jnetty99
I see the necessity to take food and water, but clothing and jewelry!!!

Clothing would be needed in a cold climate. Since when New Orleans is so freezing cold in summer?

 

[Apathetic]

I don't have a big problem with people who are looting for food and water. But anyone who is looting other stuff should be shot on sight.

Dave

 

[Icepick]

Originally posted by: erwos

Originally posted by: icepik
Traditional "book-learned" riot control methods are going to be totally ineffective at restoring order until the basic necessities are provided for people and they feel safe.

I forgot how your ignorant, uneducated, seat-of-the-pants techniques are so much more effective. Forgive me, for my "book-learning" is obviously so worthless that riot control commanders everywhere should just forget everything they've learned from books.

I also thank G-d that you are not the one in command of the mess.

You bring up all these _excuses_ for looting. And that's well and good. But, you did not answer my fundamental point, which was that allowing looting causes the situation to _escalate_. The way to get their needs met is to get aid in there. But, as news is starting to point out, getting aid in there is now starting to become impossible because of _looting_. The connection is not that hard.

-Erwos

Do you have any real world experience? Have you ever participated in any riot control activities? I thought not.

LOL. OK. You go ahead and march into the middle of the riot armed with your textbooks. I can see it now. "All right you hoodlums. Prepare to BOW DOWN TO MY AWTHOORITA!!! ....... Hey, I'm talking to you. Listen to ME!! Um, guys? Anyone? C'mon guys it says right here on page 192 - you must all cease these violent activities and succomb to me. um... ok..."

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: ItmPls
I know for a damn fact if anyone on this site was standing in front of a fvcking Best Buy that got damaged/flooded and you saw an entry in it, they'd be fvcking snatching 6800 GTs/ 7800 GTX's/ TVs / LCDs[insert pricy item here]

Don't lie.

see someone else here can be honest

Indeed, I'd get in there and fill one of those huge garbage thingies you see custodians pulling around airports and stuff with all the electronics I could fit in there.

 

[monzi]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
I'll never understand Anandtech. Looters should be shot on sight, according to people who no doubt pirate music or TV shows.

Comparing stealing non-essential items, such as shoes in a time of crisis, where in fact if those shoe's(not one......but like so many box's the little gangster kids cant even see over it) or items, got wet, they would be ruined/destroyed; with piracy is very assinine(sp?), and largly ignorant on your part.


-Monzi

 

[Bozono]

Originally posted by: sheik124

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: ItmPls
I know for a damn fact if anyone on this site was standing in front of a fvcking Best Buy that got damaged/flooded and you saw an entry in it, they'd be fvcking snatching 6800 GTs/ 7800 GTX's/ TVs / LCDs[insert pricy item here]

Don't lie.

see someone else here can be honest

Fcckin' A! Don't forget the Ipod minis.😉 Those still going for $50 around here?

 

[AdamSnow]

Originally posted by: mwtgg
Shoot them on the spot.

:thumbsup:

 

[kranky]

Originally posted by: ItmPls
I know for a damn fact if anyone on this site was standing in front of a fvcking Best Buy that got damaged/flooded and they saw an entry in it, they'd be fvcking snatching 6800 GTs/ 7800 GTX's/ TVs / LCDs /[insert pricy item here]

Don't lie.

You must listen to rap music too much. The real world isn't like that.

 

[Arkitech]

Originally posted by: Hammer

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Hammer
what you guys that think looting is ok don't understand is that if it isn't dealt with it becomes a free for all. then violence breaks out. the main goal of martial law is to restore public order. these looters will be dealt with harshly. you can count on that.

Yeah, what are you gonna do...that's what the police are for.

I lived in Los Angeles during the riots in the early 90s, I saw people looting stores and setting fire to them. I drove through one of those areas on day 2 of the riots to pick my wife up. I had a loaded Colt .45 in my lap the entire time. Never once would I have even considered doing anything to stop the mayhem going on around me. I'm not fvcking stupid enough to think I could have done anything except endanger myself and my wife. If something happened that directly threatened me I would have responded but material possessions aren't worth sh!t compared to my life or the life of my loved ones which is probably the main reason those store owners aren't there defending their property.

It's easy for a bunch of armchair QBs to sit here and type "I'd shoot them sons of b!tches" but it's entirely something else when you're actually faced with it.

i'm not saying stop people yourself (unless the break into your home or store). what i'm saying is that i agree with the national guard shooting looters.

So how will the national guard identify a looter from a person salvaging items from their own home?

 

[Arkitech]

I think this picture says a lot about the media and how they can manipulate the public

Looters or Finders

 

[g8wayrebel]

Originally posted by: ItmPls
I know for a damn fact if anyone on this site was standing in front of a fvcking Best Buy that got damaged/flooded and they saw an entry in it, they'd be fvcking snatching 6800 GTs/ 7800 GTX's/ TVs / LCDs /[insert pricy item here]

Don't lie.

NOT!!! Some of us have self respect. If I was in the situation down there , I would take food and drinks(not alcohol) , but not anything that wouldn't help me survive the immediate circumstances. I would slao shoot you if I was an owner or employee and you tried to loot my store or house.

 

[Arkitech]

Originally posted by: g8wayrebel

Originally posted by: ItmPls
I know for a damn fact if anyone on this site was standing in front of a fvcking Best Buy that got damaged/flooded and they saw an entry in it, they'd be fvcking snatching 6800 GTs/ 7800 GTX's/ TVs / LCDs /[insert pricy item here]

Don't lie.

NOT!!! Some of us have self respect. If I was in the situation down there , I would take food and drinks(not alcohol) , but not anything that wouldn't help me survive the immediate circumstances. I would slao shoot you if I was an owner or employee and you tried to loot my store or house.

you have self respect yet you would shoot someone if they were taking food or water for their families?

 

[g8wayrebel]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
if i were a shop owner i would be trying to protect it with lethal force right about now

theifs be damned, there is no justification to take something that isnt yours

There is also no justification for shooting someone for stealing/looting.

Sure there is!!! It's called justice and a deterent to others.The people who are stealing things other than food and water are also putting lives in danger by shooting at rescue personnel who are trying to assist the decent people who are still stuck in there. I have no qualms with looters being shot that are taking non essential items. If you thiunk you will be shot for your actions you might reconsider the action in the first place.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: g8wayrebel

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
if i were a shop owner i would be trying to protect it with lethal force right about now

theifs be damned, there is no justification to take something that isnt yours

There is also no justification for shooting someone for stealing/looting.

Sure there is!!! It's called justice and a deterent to others.The people who are stealing things other than food and water are also putting lives in danger by shooting at rescue personnel who are trying to assist the decent people who are still stuck in there. I have no qualms with looters being shot that are taking non essential items. If you thiunk you will be shot for your actions you might reconsider the action in the first place.

QFT

 

[Arkitech]

Originally posted by: g8wayrebel

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
if i were a shop owner i would be trying to protect it with lethal force right about now

theifs be damned, there is no justification to take something that isnt yours

There is also no justification for shooting someone for stealing/looting.

Sure there is!!! It's called justice and a deterent to others.The people who are stealing things other than food and water are also putting lives in danger by shooting at rescue personnel who are trying to assist the decent people who are still stuck in there. I have no qualms with looters being shot that are taking non essential items. If you thiunk you will be shot for your actions you might reconsider the action in the first place.

Why stop at shooting looters, let's shoot jaywalkers, people who speed and of course those bastards who get parking tickets. If you bounce a check fire up the electric chair. Pay a bill late? Get the machete.