Per Fox News Red States Are Packed

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thilanliyan

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They are also the states with the most black folks - who disproportionately vote democrat by over 90%. What is your point? Oh that's right - you don't have one.
Yeah but those states are so gerrymandered that their vote doesn't mean much :p

Even if they vote Dem, those states usually end up Repub, and when was the last time Repubs passed legislature to benefit the masses? Economic conditions in those states are at least partially the responsibility of elected officials, and if people in those states keep voting Repub, they are not helping themselves economically. Less economic freedom means less choice when it comes to nutrition.

Just IMO. I am not trying to shame anyone.
 
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They are also the states with the most black folks - who disproportionately vote democrat by over 90%. What is your point? Oh that's right - you don't have one.

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You just want to say "Red state bad! Red state fat! Red state are dumb dumbs! Red states are poor! Therefore, republicans are fat, dumb, and poor" Facts be damned.

The question is, why do you hate black people so much?


Haha but Da Blacks.....

If the State has so many fat, black voters that vote D, how come it never has any Democrats or fat guys elected?
 
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ch33zw1z

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Yeah but those states are so gerrymandered that their vote doesn't mean much :p

Even if they vote Dem, those states usually end up Repub, and when was the last time Repubs passed legislature to benefit the masses? Economic conditions in those states are at least partially the responsibility of elected officials, and if people in those states keep voting Repub, they are not helping themselves economically. Less economic freedom means less choice when it comes to nutrition.

Just IMO. I am not trying to shame anyone.

I mentioned that earlier in the thread. If there's soany Democrats voting, how do the states end up Republican controlled?
 

Sunburn74

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Genetics contributes significantly to the risk of obesity in various ways. It's highly heritable, but I've never seen anyone suggest it has considerable overlap with the genes associated with educational attainment or intelligence. That list by itself is just some measurements. You need a stat analysis of it of which would have to include a lot more data.



This doesn't really say much at all. It only suggest an association.

Conclusions

Future research should address these gaps to understand if the relationship between educational attainment and obesity may be causal, thus supporting education policy as a tool for obesity prevention.

Let's say they did get a study saying it is causal to some degree...this would probably be as effective as business ethics classes or high school PE. Taking classes is a poor tool for cultivating culture. And of course you're saying ANY higher education which obviously has more to do with other factors related to educational attainment.

Some highlights within the link:

Education may be associated with health via adult socioeconomic status (e.g. income and occupation4,7), but also via health literacy and health behaviors4,7-10 and sense of control and empowerment11.

For example, one study found that receiving dietary information as a way to reduce obesity was more effective among those with a higher education132. Alternatively, socioeconomic status may mediate the education-obesity relationship; most studies have not isolated the effects of education separately from other socioeconomic measures, including measures of income that may also be associated with obesity

We acknowledge several limitations to this study. Most importantly, the heterogeneity in the way articles measured education and obesity and reported measures of association hampered our ability to summarize across the studies beyond direction of association, especially since some of the measures of association may have reported total effects and others reported only direct effects. An additional issue when considering the studies that reported direct effects is that none adjusted for all possible mediators, and these analyses, which adjusted for mediators using more traditional approaches, could actually lead to additional sources of bias.
I'm not going to get into the weeds in this issue but amongst medical professionals it's commonly accepted that there is a very very strong relationship between low education and obesity.

The mechanism of how low levels of education may lead to obesity is likely multifactorial. One factor is likely that low education leads to low incomes which often leads to reliance on high calorie dense fast foods and other nutritionally low value food stuffs which are cheap. The other factor is low education often means there is a need to work multiple jobs which increases stress and decreases the time available for exercise. There are also feedback loops where people who are low education, low income and obese may only find housing in other areas where other obese low education people live this positively reinforcing the behavior. Finally there is the simple factor that people with low levels of education may not know the basics of good nutrition as it's not something commonly taught until higher levels of schooling.
 

snoopy7548

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Don't the red states receive the most welfare? California is a net profit for the US while Arkansas is a net loss.
 
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Pohemi

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Don't the red states receive the most welfare? California is a net profit for the US while Arkansas is a net loss.
Don't mention statistical facts, especially if it makes 'red states' look worse. It'll upset the righties if they can't blame it on the dems as usual.
 
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