Pepsi Throwback with REAL sugar, not HFCS...

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Lifer
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hfcs is 100% safe, in my opinion. ... in my opinion. when you have drinks that decrease appetite, which cause overeating until people become full, which causes stomach distention, which causes the a delayed gastric-hypthalamic satiety response, which causes a decrease in desire for exercise, etc... you get the point.

Now HFCS is 100% safe? You spent the last 20 posts arguing with everyone that it's worse than table sugar and now it's 100% safe? Newflash, it isn't safe, it's terrible for you in the high quantities some people eat as is table sugar.

I love how you posted a bunch of stuff about how HFCS is converted into glucose via enzymes and into tryglycerides in the liver as if that makes your point. It doesn't. No where in that link does it say ordinary table sugar doesn't undergo the same process.

Also, decrease in appetite causes overeating?

You seem very confused. God help you, and god bless the United States of America. Thank you for the edutainment. Let me know when you come to the realization that if everyone is arguing with you, it just might be YOU that's wrong.

Folks bottom line, too much sugar, no matter what form it's in, is bad for you. Heck too much of anything is bad for you. Why must we state the obvious over and over again? Because some people just don't get it. I'm looking at you eits. What the heck you been eiting? (ya I know bad joke, sue me)
 

eits

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Now HFCS is 100% safe? You spent the last 20 posts arguing with everyone that it's worse than table sugar and now it's 100% safe? Newflash, it isn't safe, it's terrible for you in the high quantities some people eat as is table sugar.

I love how you posted a bunch of stuff about how HFCS is converted into glucose via enzymes and into tryglycerides in the liver as if that makes your point. It doesn't. No where in that link does it say ordinary table sugar doesn't undergo the same process.

Also, decrease in appetite causes overeating?

You seem very confused. God help you, and god bless the United States of America. Thank you for the edutainment. Let me know when you come to the realization that if everyone is arguing with you, it just might be YOU that's wrong.

Folks bottom line, too much sugar, no matter what form it's in, is bad for you. Heck too much of anything is bad for you. Why must we state the obvious over and over again? Because some people just don't get it. I'm looking at you eits. What the heck you been eiting? (ya I know bad joke, sue me)

yeah, it's safe. it's not going to kill you. it's not good for you, more-so than sugar over time, but it's not unsafe. a cheeseburger isn't good for you, but it's safe.

let's have a lesson in things that are safe and not safe:
peanut butter - safe
antifreeze - unsafe
water - safe
popsicles - safe
poison - not safe

i mistyped about the decrease in appetite. i meant to type "no decrease in appetite leads to overeating". my apologies. so basically, reread what i wrote... i just edited it.

sucrose undergoes the same process, but not as much as hfcs because it has more fructose than does sucrose.
 

eits

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It's fun watching eits argue about fructose. I'll preface this little statement by pointing out as has been said, that NO ONE disagrees that too much sugar is bad, mmmkay?

Eits, have you ever wondered why 42% fructose? What reason do they have for choosing 42% as some standard number when adding it to food? Answer: because 42% fructose is considered to have the same sweetness as table sugar. It's a 1 to 1 replacement.

Now, about your ridiculous argument that 55% HFCS has more fructose than table sugar does (which is 50%.) That kind of a comparison doesn't work, unless we're comparing equal amounts of each substance. To help you along here, my car is about 90% metal and 10% lighter materials. My bike is about 95% metal and 5% lighter materials. Your reasoning is akin to saying my bike is heavier than my car, because it has a higher percentage of metal.

Your argument that the fructose added to soda is worse, because it's 55% fructose completely overlooks that fructose is 173% as sweet as sugar. i.e. you need to add MORE grams of sucrose than you would 55% fructose. Since 42% HFCS has identical sweetness, it doesn't take too much intelligence to realize that if you're using 55% HFCS, you save money by not needing to add as much as you would table sugar to maintain the same level of sweetness.

Hmmm, and since you agree with the rest of us that excess sugar is bad, it's quite reasonable to predict that the amount of fructose actually contained in a soda sweetened with HFCS is nearly identical (or even less than) the amount of fructose in a table sugar sweetend soda (sweetened to taste just as sweet.) AND, the total amount of sugar is actually MORE in the table sugar sweetened soda.

Face it, there's no conspiracy to push HFCS. The reason so many Americans are fatter can easily be attributed to the changing size of the portions that are consumed. Go to a convenience store - 32 ouncers? 48 ounce big gulp? 64 ounce serving cups. In the 1970's these sizes would have been considered ludicrous. Now, they're commonplace.

And, back on topic, I like the throwback pepsi; think I'll run out to the store in a minute and get some.

actually hfcs 42 is LESS sweet than sugar...

and they use hfcs 55 as a gram per gram substitute for sugar in sodas... not less.

read up on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup

btw, i addressed how hfcs affects peoples' satiety and portion sizes and supply and demand issues for larger portions of foods and drinks (i.e. larger sodas at convenience stores, drive-thrus, etc.). reread my post on the last page.
 
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Mike Gayner

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Does it really taste any different? We don't get that HFCS shit here - why anyone would use corn as a sweetener above cane sugar is beyond me.
 

secretanchitman

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just bought some mountain dew throwback! the label is cool, but it looks weird with the all green colored bottle though.
 

ChaoZ

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Scored three 12-packs at Safeway for $2.60 each. With taxes it came to ~$10; still a sweet deal.
 

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Lifer
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It's kind of funny seeing people argue what's good or bad for you on the basis of drinking soda.
 

bob4432

Lifer
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i think the throwback pepsi tastes more like pepsi from the fountain vs can, good either way
 

edro

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I got a bottle of Pepsi Throwback at Target.

I like the taste better. It isn't as thick and rich.
 

KeypoX

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Got one too, couldnt tell a difference. You people are crazy. Though i dont drink this stuff very often, it did seem sticker and nasty after i drank some.
 

ChaoZ

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Just tried it and I enjoy it more than the HCFS version. It tastes kind of like the diet version (both are less sweet), but the after-taste is way, way better. There isn't that sticking taste from the regular version.
 

umbrella39

Lifer
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Lifetime Pepsi drinker here and this stuff is like drinking rainbows. HFCS can suck it. I hope they stop with the it's here, it's gone, it's here, it's gone crap though. Either sell it or don't.
 

brandonb

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I like the Mt. Dew Throwback a bit less than the regular. But I know it's better for me HFCS has some bad effects on your system which are scientifically proven. In the end, I'd prefer the Throwback because of the health effects. The Dr. Pepper throwback tastes pretty identical to the other stuff. I haven't tried Pepsi, as I never drank Pepsi to begin with. I am going to support Throwback until it's gone to give people options in the store.
 

kage69

Lifer
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Def a difference there between cane and corn. I usually don't drink too many soft drinks, but really enjoyed the ones available to me when I was in Panama.

Speaking of, try a Jones Crushed Melon soda with a couple fingers of vodka. Or soju. Quite the drink on a hot sweaty summer day when you're done with the lawn.
 

Craig234

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A&W Root Beer in the US uses HFCS in stores, but the restaurants - the one by me at least - use cane sugar. I go out of my way for it.

On another note, what about Splenda? Someone who should know told me that it's much less unhealthy than suar with the same basic taste.