Realistically, you're better of getting an HTPC with a Blu-ray drive. It will cover everything you need better than either console. If one of the launch titles doesn't really entice you, you're much better waiting until something that comes out does before grabbing one of these consoles.
American Gunner
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This is probably your best bet. Both consoles have some areas where they are lacking for what you want.
cmdrdredd
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Honestly, I would not do that now. If we had inFamous out there then maybe you'd have a better idea since that's the next big game we haven't seen yet. Right now I don't know that either is special, but I've had both since launch and have played every game out for both platforms barring any games I have on PC already. If games is not the primary usage they are both a waste of time IMO. You can do everything better on a HTPC for netflix, hulu, amazon prime video etc. The XB1 has a few lingering issues with these. My biggest peeve is Netflix not getting SuperHD from it. That's just strange to me. The PS4 does it and I use it for that as it's faster than my Blu-Ray player or TV for it but I would only have gotten a PS4 or XB1 for the games which is what I did and right now there's the usual drought after launch.
I hear you, I'm in upper MA (Lowell area).
Frankly, owning both I'm already bored of them. March things should pick up, but with Titanfall having a PC version the Xbone line up feels flat for me.
I'm mostly going through my backlog of PS2/PS3/Handheld/PC games. I got $1,000 worth of paper weights haha.
Early adopter tears.
Yeah I feel like that a bit(said as much above). I really only play NBA 2k14 sometimes, Forza sometimes, and Killer Instinct sometimes. The free games from PSN+ are helping a bit though. Even so...I wait for inFamous. It will likely be the next game I put real time into since I finished AC4, Ryse, Killzone, Knack, Dead Rising 3. I'm only a casual online player on consoles. I was heavy into Battlefield 3 on PC but with BF4 being such a load of problems I uninstalled it and gave up.
So lavaheadache I think you might want to consider the HTPC route for this. That is unless you see a game you absolutely must try.
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sze5003
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I agree with the rest. Only get a console if you will be specifically playing games on it a lot. I have a great pc but I got a new console because I really enjoyed the uncharted series and so on.
I haven't brought myself to finish Ac4 yet, I mainly play 2k14 and bf4. But I use the console a lot most of the time.
Stick with the htpc for now unless infamous really intrigues you or titan fall. Either console is good but lacks need to play games.
I haven't brought myself to finish Ac4 yet, I mainly play 2k14 and bf4. But I use the console a lot most of the time.
Stick with the htpc for now unless infamous really intrigues you or titan fall. Either console is good but lacks need to play games.
Arkaign
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OP has a system with (two?) 780tis?
Titanfall would be a waste of a reason to get an XB1 in that case, it looks heaps better at 1080p than it does on XB1, I played both.
That said, waiting is a great bet.
A mATX Media PC with a 270x or 760 would boss mode Titanfall as well (along with most PC games at 1080p with mostly max details). Add a bluray drive, and you have a nearly perfect media box.
Then when the exclusives really start piling up (lots will miss the PC completely, particularly in the case of the PS4), you can make a more informed choice. Both are pretty much a waste at this point.
Titanfall would be a waste of a reason to get an XB1 in that case, it looks heaps better at 1080p than it does on XB1, I played both.
That said, waiting is a great bet.
A mATX Media PC with a 270x or 760 would boss mode Titanfall as well (along with most PC games at 1080p with mostly max details). Add a bluray drive, and you have a nearly perfect media box.
Then when the exclusives really start piling up (lots will miss the PC completely, particularly in the case of the PS4), you can make a more informed choice. Both are pretty much a waste at this point.
Why do you guys keep telling me to get an htpc? I have one. Even stated that in the OP. z77 itx, 3770k, 8 gb, 120 gb ssd, and a Titan running win 8.1.
I'm just looking to play around with a console.
J/k on the Titan and 3770k.... I was just trying to act ignorant and wasteful. Though I did at one point. Since replaced with a Celeron Ivy and integrated video
I'm just looking to play around with a console.
J/k on the Titan and 3770k.... I was just trying to act ignorant and wasteful. Though I did at one point. Since replaced with a Celeron Ivy and integrated video
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sze5003
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We are telling you to keep your htpc. There are no advantages game wise to a console when your htpc performs better. If you don't care, get either console but go with the one that has the games you prefer.
If you don't care about multiplayer but will use the console for stream services, ps4 does not require psn plus subscription to use those apps, whereas Xbox one does.
If you care about multiplayer then you need either subscription, psn plus or live, so again it boils down to which console has the games you would want to play.
Because, the answer is an HTPC is better for what your main stated purposes are comprised of. If you want to play console games, then whichever console has the games currently out and that will be out in the future.
Also, lol at the people crying that because you have enough income to have a 911 that you aren't allowed to complain about spending additional money on other services... It's no wonder they can't afford a 911. Every $3 a month adds up!
Arkaign
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Ah, okay, if you already have an HTPC with an Ivy Celeron and integrated video then :
(1)- Get a ~660ti or 270x range card.
(2)- Get a cheap i5 socket 1155 (assuming this isn't a Z-series board that can take a K)
(3)- Assuming you built it with a cheap PSU to go with Celeron+Integrated, get a $30AR 500W PSU (Antec or the like) of good reviews.
If you have a slimline case that can't take a full size GPU, I wouldn't bother.
If you have a mATX case that can take a real GPU though, the above stuff would be less expensive than a console, and would seriously play well with 1080p gaming.
If you're not into multiplayer, but want a huge library and console-friendly games (sports, racing, fighting, etc), then do yourself a massive favor and grab a 360 or PS3. Heaps cheaper and a lot more enjoyable at present. PS3 even does Bluray and network play quite well (there are some free add-ons that will stream basically anything from your PCs through the PS3, and similar stuff for the 360. Weirdly, the PS3 and 360 actually do far better for media playback than the new consoles as of February 2014. We're still waiting on a lot of promised features to come out in that area.
Not trying to be contradictory, but you sound like someone who would really regret a PS4/XB1 at this time. There aren't a dozen good games put together for them right now, add in high price, missing features, and games better on PC (BF/Titanfall), and the XB1/PS4 are best left to the console die-hards who've played everything already on the 360/PS3 (and many of them still play the newest releases there as well).
(1)- Get a ~660ti or 270x range card.
(2)- Get a cheap i5 socket 1155 (assuming this isn't a Z-series board that can take a K)
(3)- Assuming you built it with a cheap PSU to go with Celeron+Integrated, get a $30AR 500W PSU (Antec or the like) of good reviews.
If you have a slimline case that can't take a full size GPU, I wouldn't bother.
If you have a mATX case that can take a real GPU though, the above stuff would be less expensive than a console, and would seriously play well with 1080p gaming.
If you're not into multiplayer, but want a huge library and console-friendly games (sports, racing, fighting, etc), then do yourself a massive favor and grab a 360 or PS3. Heaps cheaper and a lot more enjoyable at present. PS3 even does Bluray and network play quite well (there are some free add-ons that will stream basically anything from your PCs through the PS3, and similar stuff for the 360. Weirdly, the PS3 and 360 actually do far better for media playback than the new consoles as of February 2014. We're still waiting on a lot of promised features to come out in that area.
Not trying to be contradictory, but you sound like someone who would really regret a PS4/XB1 at this time. There aren't a dozen good games put together for them right now, add in high price, missing features, and games better on PC (BF/Titanfall), and the XB1/PS4 are best left to the console die-hards who've played everything already on the 360/PS3 (and many of them still play the newest releases there as well).
If the OP has an HTPC, do the media functions of either console ACTUALLY matter? He already has a box to take care of Netflix and the like. Shoot, he could even use the One to pass the HTPC into the console and watch Netflix without Gold that way (assuming the pass-through won't suffer from poor audio-video syncing form the HTPC to the console to the TV).
Really, if you have an HTPC, I don't get why anything OTHER than games is a matter of importance. I'd just get the console with your preferred exclusives...in about 6 months, when you know which ones will be out when (particularly the next Halo, Gears, and Uncharted titles).
Really, if you have an HTPC, I don't get why anything OTHER than games is a matter of importance. I'd just get the console with your preferred exclusives...in about 6 months, when you know which ones will be out when (particularly the next Halo, Gears, and Uncharted titles).
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If you're going to buy a $400-$500 gaming machine and you refuse to pay a flat rate of $40-$50 dollars a year subscription maybe you shouldn't get a console. Honestly it's $50 a YEAR, you could pay that with the money you find in your couch. I hate the subscription argument. Fifty dollars is NOT expensive..
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ProchargeMe
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If you're buying a multi hundred dollar console why should 50 bucks matter? One game will cost you more than your subscription will in most cases.
cmdrdredd
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You specifically said you wouldn't be buying it primarily to play games on. Both consoles are a total waste if you want media. Neither has a dlna media browser either.
as a (buy um all) person, who plays my FPS on the PC (disclosure) I have prefered the Sony consoles as they seem to have the Best mix of games. If I enjoyed FPS on consoles the 360 would have been my choice (I do NOT like halo, but quite simply IN the US LIVE has the best game matching, if you can get by the constant potty talk). Last gen in the US the 360 was the better choice because of LIVE if you did online gaming. One thing to consider this time is numbers.. much like in the US last gen, the 360 had the player base, better match making because of it. But this gen (so far) the PS4 is outselling the Bone pretty much 2:1 so if that holds true, the PS4 will have the better match making this gen. Purely based on Multiplayer games. Sad thing is I was really looking at the BONE for the game playing/tv watching stuff. But seeing more and more games playing faster on the PS4 is really swaying me. Last gen there was difference, but this gen its way more pronounced. taking a few shaders out to speed it up was bad ( last gen, and the PS3), but lowering the rez by a 3rd.. ouch.. (i do play on a big screen, and not FPS so i notice it).. again if its FPS, eh.. the action is fast, most wont notice it.
most mention the games you want to play, couldn't agree more, but as owning both, you get all games so you pick the one that better in other ways. I would go PS4, more units, more players, more exclusives down the road(if that trend holds). MS has deeper pockets, so if they cant win the sales war they may buy a few exclusives and even the field (worth a thought also). Sony is the more powerful now that they are on more even terms developer wise, when Sony slowly caught up last gen, as they had the power but nobody could use it, this gen they program almost the same (tech geeks, please note, "almost" is relative to how different they where last gen) so speed differences, you find a way to tweek one, the other should arguably have the same ability.. hence the PS4 should retain its horsepower crown this gen, but anything could happen, so its not guaranteed. all the above is just opinion.
games , features, take the one that appeals.. right now I feel i have 2 worthless consoles. There isn't a game out that makes um worth a purchase at all right now (again, just an opinion).
most mention the games you want to play, couldn't agree more, but as owning both, you get all games so you pick the one that better in other ways. I would go PS4, more units, more players, more exclusives down the road(if that trend holds). MS has deeper pockets, so if they cant win the sales war they may buy a few exclusives and even the field (worth a thought also). Sony is the more powerful now that they are on more even terms developer wise, when Sony slowly caught up last gen, as they had the power but nobody could use it, this gen they program almost the same (tech geeks, please note, "almost" is relative to how different they where last gen) so speed differences, you find a way to tweek one, the other should arguably have the same ability.. hence the PS4 should retain its horsepower crown this gen, but anything could happen, so its not guaranteed. all the above is just opinion.
games , features, take the one that appeals.. right now I feel i have 2 worthless consoles. There isn't a game out that makes um worth a purchase at all right now (again, just an opinion).
gorcorps
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That's no excuse to be wasteful
If your logic is "I already spent a bunch of money so that means spending more isn't a big deal" then it's becoming clear why this country doesn't know how to handle money
alkemyst
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We are talking premiere consoles and in this subject someone dropped close to $1000 to buy both. If you can't afford $50 then skip that and focus on games for the older one once they fall.
alkemyst
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<-- P&N...OK we get what you are trying to say. It's irrelevant, the 'country' doesn't work on a 'household' level.
You just cratered.
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That's one less game a year, maybe more if you buy them on sale. Not everybody is as loose as their money as you.
A console isn't the best media center, but it looks like OP wants to buy one. I would suggest the PS4, since it at least doens't require a subscription for Netflix and such. If you ever pick up a game you want to play online, then you can pick up a subscription when the time comes. Otherwise, you cans tick to single player games or games with local co-op.
Neither console has a great library right now, and both of their futures are pretty clouded, so that is all we really have to judge on. $150 less for the PS4.
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