People don't care about Benghazi!

[Doc Savage Fan]

The plot thickens.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/05/discrepancies-between-benghazi-emails-released-to-congress-watchdog-group/

Discrepancies between Benghazi emails released to Congress, watchdog group

EXCLUSIVE: Documents reviewed by Fox News show there are differences between Benghazi emails released through the federal courts to the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch and emails released to the House oversight committee as part of its investigation into the attacks.

The discrepancies are fueling allegations the administration is holding back documents to Congress.

"The key question is whether Congress now has all the documents," Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, a member of the oversight committee, said. As for differences between the two sets of documents, Chaffetz alleged: "They are playing games. The classification and redactions are different. Why should Judicial Watch get more than Congress after issuing a subpoena?"

The emails published by Judicial Watch last week, which showed additional White House involvement in shaping the public explanation of what happened, helped trigger the announcement Friday by House Speaker John Boehner of a select committee to investigate.

Two of the emails, from Sept. 14, 2012, appear to be part of the deliberations in advance of then-U.N. ambassador Susan Rice's Sunday show appearances were she linked an anti-Islam video to the Benghazi attacks. The emails released to Judicial Watch include the names of those who participated in the email chain.

The same emails provided to the House committee do not include names.

While the text and subject line are redacted in full for both Judicial Watch and Capitol Hill, there are unexplained differences in the classification. The emails, originally marked "unclassified," were retroactively classified in February by the Department of State.

The email released to Judicial Watch is now marked "SECRET," and the same email released to the Oversight Committee is marked "Confidential." Both are marked to "DECLASSIFY" on Sept. 13, 2037 -- 25 years after the terrorist attack which killed four Americans.

Fox News also reviewed an email from Sept. 12, 2012 from Rice to members of the U.S. team at the United Nations where Rice was U.S. ambassador at the time. This unclassified email, whose subject line and text are also redacted in full, was retroactively classified on April 16, 2014, one day before it was released. While the contents and subject line were redacted in both versions, the email released as a result of the federal lawsuit to Judicial Watch does include the names, while the other does not.

Fox News does not have access to all the emails released to the House committee to assess whether this is part of a broader pattern. A spokesman for the oversight committee said they are still reviewing the 3,200 pages.

The spokesman said: "By withholding information, this Administration has only itself to blame for the continued questions about the before, during, and after of the Benghazi attacks. Removing information from documents subpoenaed by Congress, while the same documents with more information are released publicly, underscores the games the State Department continues to play as Congress presses for full and truthful answers about the deaths of four brave Americans."

When asked about reported differences in the released emails, White House spokesman Jay Carney said last week that the administration was forthcoming.

"We have, again, in a rather unprecedented way, provided documents that normally White Houses and administrations have not or would not provide because they were being mischaracterized," he said.

State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said there was no effort to slow-walk the release of the emails.

"The notion that we are somehow deliberately doing any of that is just false. We've produced tens of thousands of documents. We've done nine hearings, 46 briefings. Everything we've seen come out in these document releases and on the Hill has underscored the exact same set of facts as we talked about yesterday about what happened in Benghazi and what happened since," Harf explained.

 

[theeedude]

The plot thickens.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/05/discrepancies-between-benghazi-emails-released-to-congress-watchdog-group/

The yawn lengthens.

 

[Thebobo]

Americans killed under Obama due to "intelligence failures": 4

Americans killed under Bush due to "intelligence failures": 7000+

Jon Stewart Tears Fox News Apart For Benghazi Hypocrisy

 

[soundforbjt]

Funny how repubs cared so little about lies when their team was in power...

 

[First]

The plot thickens.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/05/discrepancies-between-benghazi-emails-released-to-congress-watchdog-group/

lol

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Americans killed under Obama due to "intelligence failures": 4

Americans killed under Bush due to "intelligence failures": 7000+

Jon Stewart Tears Fox News Apart For Benghazi Hypocrisy

BOOM!
:awe:

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

“There is no question we all relied on flawed intelligence. But, there is a fundamental difference between relying on incorrect intelligence and deliberately painting a picture to the American people that you know is not fully accurate."

 

[hal2kilo]

“There is no question we all relied on flawed intelligence. But, there is a fundamental difference between relying on incorrect intelligence and deliberately painting a picture to the American people that you know is not fully accurate."

Can't you just stop talking about the Bush administration.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Can't you just stop talking about the Bush administration.

lol

 

[werepossum]

The plot thickens.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/05/discrepancies-between-benghazi-emails-released-to-congress-watchdog-group/

Wow. That's pretty blatant.

The yawn lengthens.

If you seriously have no problem with the White House retroactively classifying documents to prevent Congressional oversight, why not just openly advocate for a dictatorship? That would at least have the advantage of being honest and consistent.

At least I can now understand why you are so enamored of Russia.

 

[fskimospy]

Wow. That's pretty blatant.

If you seriously have no problem with the White House retroactively classifying documents to prevent Congressional oversight, why not just openly advocate for a dictatorship? That would at least have the advantage of being honest and consistent.

At least I can now understand why you are so enamored of Russia.

1.) Classifying something confidential or secret would not prevent Congress from accessing those documents.

2.) That linked article is showing the difference in classification stamped on documents Congress already had. How you got the idea that this was done to prevent Congressional oversight is unclear.

Unfortunately none of this stopped you from declaring a dictatorship yet again.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

1.) Classifying something confidential or secret would not prevent Congress from accessing those documents.

2.) That linked article is showing the difference in classification stamped on documents Congress already had. How you got the idea that this was done to prevent Congressional oversight is unclear.

Unfortunately none of this stopped you from declaring a dictatorship yet again.

How would you explain Judicial Watch gaining FOIA access to documents that were not made available to Congress under subpoena?

 

[fskimospy]

How would you explain Judicial Watch gaining FOIA access to documents that were not made available to Congress under subpoena?

I'd have to look at the FOIA process that Judicial Watch went through. My guess would be that two different people or groups of people handled the requests and came to different conclusions about what documents were relevant. I wouldn't know without looking into it more though.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I'd have to look at the FOIA process that Judicial Watch went through. My guess would be that two different people or groups of people handled the requests and came to different conclusions about what documents were relevant. I wouldn't know without looking into it more though.

The documents were originally marked “unclassified” and were retroactively classified in February by the State Department. I don't understand why would they do this. Do you have an opinion?

 

[fskimospy]

The documents were originally marked “unclassified” and were retroactively classified in February by the State Department. I don't understand why would they do this. Do you have an opinion?

I honestly don't have the slightest clue, especially considering the fact that they were releasing them anyway. Usually retroactive classification would be used to deny FOIA requests, but that didn't happen here.

It sounds like a 'left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing' sort of thing, but that's just a wild guess.

 

[Fern]

Well, I guess that is all it was. Just some rich guy misbehaving.

Yep. That's it.

I had never heard of Sterling before this story was smothered by the media.

I couldn't have told you the name of the NBA team in LA before this story.

I give this guy's inane utterances no more attention than the guy with a hot dog stand down the street. His team isn't even a publicly owned company.

I just couldn't care less and don't think it's an important story in the least.

It's also guite hilarious how you talk about ad nausea coverage in regards to Sterling. Yet Benghazi has been going over for over 2 damn years. Enlighten me what is the scandal the administration has been trying to cover up that merits 2 years of coverage?

It's the Obama admin's fault this thing has been going on for so long. It wouldn't have been a story in the first place if they didn't try to spin it for political purposes.

Even after that had they been forthcoming with the info it likely would have died out last year.

OTOH: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-in-Benghazi-when-consulate-was-attacked.html

Why was the ambassador in Benghazi instead of Tripoli?

Benghazi has always been a meaningless hellhole of no import, what was he doing there?

Why were dozens of CIA operatives there?

http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/0...n-the-ground-during-benghazi-attack/?on.cnn=1

Those are just a few of the questions in addition to the usual ones.

Not every time that bad things happen is there some outright negligence by someone. Sometimes the terrorists do win a battle. That's what happens in a war.

It's already been labeled as negligence by Congress and, IIRC, the independent report led by Pickering.

4 US govt officials were severely criticized and removed form their positions.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...197224-7de9-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

Fern

 

[thraashman]

The documents were originally marked “unclassified” and were retroactively classified in February by the State Department. I don't understand why would they do this. Do you have an opinion?

I have an idea. Because Darrell Issa has a history of releasing to public view information and documents that he's not legally supposed to. Give them the right classification and maybe his law breaking ass can finally be jailed for it.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I have an idea. Because Darrell Issa has a history of releasing to public view information and documents that he's not legally supposed to. Give them the right classification and maybe his law breaking ass can finally be jailed for it.

Issa should have been side-lined a long time ago...Democrats should pursue charges in my opinion. I'd kick his ass out of the party if I had anything to do with it. Gowdy should do much better at getting to the root of this.

 

[Oldgamer]

I guess it you keep saying "we still have unanswered questions" long enough you can keep spinning a story to look like a cover up for endless years. Fox news is just making up shit and spinning for the Republicans as they always do.

 

[Oldgamer]

The plot thickens.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/05/discrepancies-between-benghazi-emails-released-to-congress-watchdog-group/

I am curious why don't you talk about Daryl Issa editing emails from the white house and then leaking them with his own edited details to fox? Two different emails, white house and Daryl Issa's, hmmmm... and he leaked it to the press with the edited versions.

 

[MongGrel]

The documents were originally marked “unclassified” and were retroactively classified in February by the State Department. I don't understand why would they do this. Do you have an opinion?

I wasn't even aware things could be retroactively classifed, what would be the point really.

It's just not going to disappear.

Someone really stepped on their crank on that one I guess then.

 

[Jhhnn]

It's the Obama admin's fault this thing has been going on for so long. It wouldn't have been a story in the first place if they didn't try to spin it for political purposes.

Hogwash. It was the Romney campaign that put the initial spin on it for political purposes.

Why were dozens of CIA operatives there?

Citing unverifiable reports from anonymous sources as fact is a standard propaganda technique, a lie.

But you already knew that, did it anyway. You have the nerve, the unmitigated gall to question others' credibility in light of that? Really?

 

[theeedude]

Wow. That's pretty blatant.


If you seriously have no problem with the White House retroactively classifying documents to prevent Congressional oversight, why not just openly advocate for a dictatorship? That would at least have the advantage of being honest and consistent.

At least I can now understand why you are so enamored of Russia.

Another nonsensical post with an ad-hominem at the end. Par for the course.
First this investigation was about youtube videos and talk show talking points, now it's about emails and classifications, which are all incredibly boring and asinine wastes of time.
Let me know when it becomes about about what actually happened in Benghazi and how to prevent it from happening again, then I may be interested.

 

[Jhhnn]

Another nonsensical post with an ad-hominem at the end. Par for the course.
First this investigation was about youtube videos and talk show talking points, now it's about emails and classifications, which are all incredibly boring and asinine wastes of time.
Let me know when it becomes about about what actually happened in Benghazi and how to prevent it from happening again, then I may be interested.

The whole thing oozes dogged desperation, doesn't it?

It's like Ken Starr hounding Clinton for years over Whitewater even though there wasn't anything there, finally busted him for lying about a blowjob with some illegal collusion from Paula Jones' legal team & the treachery of Monica Lewinsky's "friend".

I mean, he just had to be guilty of something, anything, whatever & they weren't letting go until they could pin something on him. They finally got lucky- their methods were a lot sleazier than Clinton's misdeeds ever were.

Obviously, Benghazi has to be Obama's fault in much the same fashion, and they'll gladly resort to any means to get there. Except there's no there there, and anybody with a lick of sense already knows it.

Or maybe the ambassador was on a secret mission to set up Obama's sekrit islamic gay harem right there in Benghazi... look! the word "gay" appeared 87 times in these 10,000 Emails! It's True!

 

[Incorruptible]

Hopefully they can get to the bottom of this but I doubt anything will happen. It's shameful some idiots are trying to ignore/deflect Benghazi.