Pentium 4 to ship this halloween.

Adul

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P4 Halloween Launch

interesting clip

Although PC makers set prices for their systems, Intel has some say in the pricing on initial Pentium 4 systems. The company is offering a $70 subsidy for the RDRAM that goes into each Pentium 4-based computer. The company's goal is to lessen the price of RDRAM memory, lest it stand in the way of adoption of its new flagship chip.
 

HouRman

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I can't wait to see how the Itaniums do.
I'd like to see how the P4s do though and I hope they're affordable.
 

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I personally have a good feeling about that whole Pentium 4 thing.
I don't think Intel would in any way let be beat by AMD.
I have nothing on AMD, and I agree that their latest offerings (DURON, THUNDERBIRD) should be chosen over the Celeron, and PIII. I would personally buy a THUNDERBIRD over a PIII.

Sure, their P1.13GHz recal, 820 (SDRAM) bug and Rambus wasn't good, but Intel is not as stupid as we all think. And me in anyway, I don't care who leads the CPU market. Competition is always good.

Oleg,
 

Syborg1211

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a bunch of people are talking about how a 1ghz p3 will be able to beat a 1 ghz p4 but who cares! not like the p3 can get up to the speeds the p4 will be able to.
 

MadRat

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With perfect optimization the P4 would blow the P!!! away.
When we consider the human factor then the magnitude of the
design starts to sink in. Pure speed will be pretty cool,
but per mHz performance will disappoint. When it comes down
to it, though, the P4 makes a bold step toward the future.

I personally have more AMD systems in the house now, but
if price wasn't a factor they'd be Intel. AMD offers me
the right price-performance delta.
 

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20 stage pipeline is a little too long to me. what about the mustang? no one has seen anything about that. but the rumours of what p4 requires is scary. 1lb heatsink, modified cases just so the heatsink doesn't break the cpu, huge PS? sounds lame to me, until they can goto .13...
 

KarsinTheHutt

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Yeah, the heatsink is 450 grams :(

Recommended PS is around 300 Watts. I don't see why anyone should complain about this, seeing as T-Bird's recommended PS is also 300 Watts.

There seems to be some concern over EMI, however. Past 2 GHz P4 will probably need some interferance sheilding. I'm not sure whether this refers to interferance caused by P4 on other parts, or P4 being interfered with. I think its the former though.
 

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I would just like to see a 1.6ghz Tbird or P4. Who the hell needs a shootout they'll both be fast as hell. I wonder how a P4 cracks RC5...
 

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I just cannot get excited about the P4 debut. I am willing to wait for the official benchmarks, but I have seen reports that it will not run office apps any faster. The first P4s out will only be around for 6 months before a die shrink and pinout change. That means your motherboard will be obsolete in six months. I have to get to work so perhaps someone can find the links on that for me.
If it can really speed up my 53k modem connection maybe I'll look at one.;)
 

Czar

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The thing is that this CPU reqires RDRAM, new PS and new Case.... sucks... a dead floating business fish, in a bowl with a Dell sticker on it.
 

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p4 will eventually have sdram support but not till next year, i heard q2 but not sure. And, if you read the article, intel is targeting the people which are willing to pay a lot of money for a high end system. So, since it is highend, rdram matches the p4 well.
 

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Well, I guess we'll see if it's trick-or treat.

But if the rumors about it are true, then it's mostly trick
 

Eli

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Screw Intel.

Fvck Intel.

DIE INTEL.


I hope the P4 dies a horrible, disgusting, painful death. Kinda like the original Celeron, only more pathetic.


*watches with glee as their stock plummets*


Intel makes me sick.
 

Howard

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You forget so fast? AMD is affected because of "guilt by association". Intel goes down, AMD does also.
 

Eli

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It was just kinda a figure of speach, to show my dislike for Intel. I know they'll never die, at least not in the not so distant future... But it wouldn't be hard for the P4 to be a complete flop, and Intel to find itself up sh!tcreek without a processor ;)
 

Eli

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Uh huh.. Sure... We believe you.. Really... No! I swear..

Yep.. 217mm2 of pure silicon alright... Mmm...


Heh, the Mustang is going to eat it for breakfast. You just watch ...
 

Train

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lets look at the overclocking here,

people get PC100 up to 133 quite often, this P4 is supposed to have "quad pumped" 100mhz Ram (100x4 = 400Mhz Bus) so if we can get those to 133, thats (133x4 = 532Mhz Bus) So for a 1.4Ghz P4 at 400, you could overclock it to 1862, sheesh, and what about a 1.5? or the 1.7's which are supposed to come out not too long after the 1.4's, Ok that probably made no sense since we are on DDR now so anyways....

I've heard from several sources the 1.4s are actually capable of 2Ghz quite easily. Sounds Good to me, when Intel releases the P4 1800's or so, we will all be grabbing the price cut 1.4's and overcloocking them the same way we have all grabbed the 700cb0's and cranked them up.