Pentagon crash during 9/11

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
What kind of missile do you think it going to make an impact and a fire like a giant airliner? Use some common sense.

I dunno release all the videos and we can see for ourselves.

 

[OutHouse]

I sure would like to see the video from the hotel and the gas station.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: clarkey01
Where were the parts? and how come the grass is fine ? the fuel from that "plane" would of burned for days.

everyone knows planes vaporize when they crash

 

[Toasthead]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Welcome to last year.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
What kind of missile do you think it going to make an impact and a fire like a giant airliner? Use some common sense.

You are part of the conspiracy.

Anyone with eyes can see the lie for what it is. This is all a sinister public relations plot for us to invade the middle east and steal their oil while committing a genocide that makes the Holocaust pale in comparison and ruthlessly torturing the populace in the best traditons of Stalin and Mao. All so greedy oil companies and their bought stooge in the White House can by bigger yachts and cars they don't need and only use to pollute the environment at the expense of the poor, starving masses of the US who can only get jobs at Walmart for 3.15 an hour.

It is all your fault.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
What kind of missile do you think it going to make an impact and a fire like a giant airliner? Use some common sense.

You are part of the conspiracy.

Anyone with eyes can see the lie for what it is. This is all a sinister public relations plot for us to invade the middle east and steal their oil while committing a genocide that makes the Holocaust pale in comparison and ruthlessly torturing the populace in the best traditons of Stalin and Mao. All so greedy oil companies and their bought stooge in the White House can by bigger yachts and cars they don't need and only use to pollute the environment at the expense of the poor, starving masses of the US who can only get jobs at Walmart for 3.15 an hour.

It is all your fault.

your 15 minute liberty pass from P&N is expired.

 

[clarkey01]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: clarkey01
Where were the parts? and how come the grass is fine ? the fuel from that "plane" would of burned for days.

everyone knows planes vaporize when they crash

LOL

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
What kind of missile do you think it going to make an impact and a fire like a giant airliner? Use some common sense.

You are part of the conspiracy.

Anyone with eyes can see the lie for what it is. This is all a sinister public relations plot for us to invade the middle east and steal their oil while committing a genocide that makes the Holocaust pale in comparison and ruthlessly torturing the populace in the best traditons of Stalin and Mao. All so greedy oil companies and their bought stooge in the White House can by bigger yachts and cars they don't need and only use to pollute the environment at the expense of the poor, starving masses of the US who can only get jobs at Walmart for 3.15 an hour.

It is all your fault.

your 15 minute liberty pass from P&N is expired.

You did not provide hard, incontravertable proof refuting my absurd assertions so you are 100% wrong and are also personally responsible for these events since you clearly support the current oilwar dictator we have in office.

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

They had to blow up that part of the pentagon to suppress evidence showing that NASA hoaxed the moon landings.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
They had to blow up that part of the pentagon to suppress evidence showing that NASA hoaxed the moon landings.

The real Kennedy assasination files were also housed there since it was a DOD op that killed him.

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Yes it was a missile.. the whole plan was orchestrated by the Republicans to scare people into passing the Patriot Act. Democracy in America is dying as imperialism rises.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: clarkey01
Where were the parts? and how come the grass is fine ? the fuel from that "plane" would of burned for days.

Really? Then you must also believe that all the fire in the twin towers was jet fuel burning as well. Actually what happens is the jet fuel acts as an ignition source. The fire that actually caused the towers to collapse was all the office stuff burning as a result of being ignited by the jet fuel. If we go by your theory every plane crash site should burn for days on end.

 

[illusion88]

Originally posted by: K1052
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

Snoopes is censored by the government!
They cant be trusted

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: EKKC
Osama bin laden doesn't exist
Saddam Hussein is an American government agent
so is Michael Jackson
9/11 was a ploy to invade the Middle East
Pentagon is just an empty building. DoD is housed actually in some mountain base in West Virginia
Hurricanes are created by aliens

You've been reading Conjur's newsletter again, haven't you?

Jason

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: illusion88

Originally posted by: K1052
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

Snoopes is censored by the government!
They cant be trusted

Snopes is the public disinformation arm of the shadow government run by Cheney that pull the strings on our fearless liar president who wasn't even elected either time since the elections were obviously rigged.

 

[illusion88]

Just to side with the conspircy
Show me a picture of 747 airline wreckage picked up from the pentagon. Even better, show me a picture of wreckage AT the pentagon.

 

[gigapet]

its been said before the only reason this still remains questionable is because they wont release any other videos.....whats on tthose tapes? Sure its nothing like you all insist so why not release them.

 

[Queasy]

Popular Mechanics debunks

Picture of some wreckage

Big Plane, Small Holes
CLAIM: Two holes were visible in the Pentagon immediately after the attack: a 75-ft.-wide entry hole in the building's exterior wall, and a 16-ft.-wide hole in Ring C, the Pentagon's middle ring. Conspiracy theorists claim both holes are far too small to have been made by a Boeing 757. "How does a plane 125 ft. wide and 155 ft. long fit into a hole which is only 16 ft. across?" asks reopen911.org, a Web site "dedicated to discovering the bottom line truth to what really occurred on September 11, 2001."

The truth is of even less importance to French author Thierry Meyssan, whose baseless assertions are fodder for even mainstream European and Middle Eastern media. In his book The Big Lie, Meyssan concludes that the Pentagon was struck by a satellite-guided missile--part of an elaborate U.S. military coup. "This attack," he writes, "could only be committed by United States military personnel against other U.S. military personnel."

FACT: When American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon's exterior wall, Ring E, it created a hole approximately 75 ft. wide, according to the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report. The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact, but ASCE based its measurements of the original hole on the number of first-floor support columns that were destroyed or damaged. Computer simulations confirmed the findings.

Why wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."

The tidy hole in Ring C was 12 ft. wide--not 16 ft. ASCE concludes it was made by the jet's landing gear, not by the fuselage.

Intact Windows
CLAIM: Many Pentagon windows remained in one piece--even those just above the point of impact from the Boeing 757 passenger plane. Pentagonstrike.co.uk, an online animation widely circulated in the United States and Europe, claims that photographs showing "intact windows" directly above the crash site prove "a missile" or "a craft much smaller than a 757" struck the Pentagon.

FACT: Some windows near the impact area did indeed survive the crash. But that's what the windows were supposed to do--they're blast-resistant.

"A blast-resistant window must be designed to resist a force significantly higher than a hurricane that's hitting instantaneously," says Ken Hays, executive vice president of Masonry Arts, the Bessemer, Ala., company that designed, manufactured and installed the Pentagon windows. Some were knocked out of the walls by the crash and the outer ring's later collapse. "They were not designed to receive wracking seismic force," Hays notes. "They were designed to take in inward pressure from a blast event, which apparently they did: [Before the collapse] the blinds were still stacked neatly behind the window glass."



Flight 77 Debris
CLAIM: Conspiracy theorists insist there was no plane wreckage at the Pentagon. "In reality, a Boeing 757 was never found," claims pentagonstrike.co.uk, which asks the question, "What hit the Pentagon on 9/11?"

FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"

 

[aniepras]

Originally posted by: K1052


You did not provide hard, incontravertable proof refuting my absurd assertions so you are 100% wrong and are also personally responsible for these events since you clearly support the current oilwar dictator we have in office.

This just goes to show the Dems will believe anything anyone tells them no matter how far fetched.

 

[gigapet]

why dont they release the black box he found. oh wait he is an expert we should just take his word as truth. :roll:

 

[morkinva]

Don't give me your popular mechanics crap! The debunking has been debunked already.

Look, my friend manages a supermarket. He tells me there are at least 2 cameras in the parking lot. How many cameras do you think are trained on the Pentagon?

Why haven't we seen any of the video from those cameras? Huh? Wouldn't it be cool to see the plane hit the Pentagon? Sure, but since there is no such footage -- well, you get the idea. Well, you probably don't.

 

[BudAshes]

Originally posted by: loic2003
I always found it interesting that very little mention was made of the pentagon crash site during 9/11. We all have the footage of the aircraft going into the twin towers firmly stamped into our memories for life, but I personally can't recall much about the pentagon crash site at all as well as details surrounding it. A little video I saw has seeded some dodgy conspiracy theory with me.

I'm pretty cynical with things like this -everyone loves a conspiracy- so who's got links to sway the argument one way or the other?


Edit: Better quality video

Im sorry but this repost above all others(probably been posted 50+ times) deserves a ban. And a kick in the nuts for believing something so fvcking stupid and proved wrong 1000000000 times by 100000000 different sources.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: morkinva
Don't give me your popular mechanics crap! The debunking has been debunked already.

Look, my friend manages a supermarket. He tells me there are at least 2 cameras in the parking lot. How many cameras do you think are trained on the Pentagon?

Why haven't we seen any of the video from those cameras? Huh? Wouldn't it be cool to see the plane hit the Pentagon? Sure, but since there is no such footage -- well, you get the idea. Well, you probably don't.

LOL, at first I was going to just laugh at your post and say "good joke", but then I looked at your sig. You're a looney-toon.

 

[BrokenVisage]

How is it so fucking stupid? Show me the sources debunking it. Show me footage of the Boeing aircraft hitting the Pentagon.

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: illusion88

Originally posted by: K1052
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

Snoopes is censored by the government!
They cant be trusted

Snopes is the public disinformation arm of the shadow government run by Cheney that pull the strings on our fearless liar president who wasn't even elected either time since the elections were obviously rigged.

Do you actually *believe* that nonsense?

Jason