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Pentagon crash during 9/11

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loic2003

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well thanks for all your wonderful replies. Sorry it was a repost, but I simply could not be bothered to check.

Looks to me like it was a plane that hit the pentagon, although the guy did show some great flying skills when just a couple of feet of the ground.

Only one other quick question: Why were no fighter jets scrambled after the first, second or even third aircraft changed course and stopped responding to traffic controllers? again, I can't be bothered to check if anyone's already asked this. Sorry.
 

stnicralisk

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All this talk about conspiracy is fun. At least whoever put together the video was competent - it was well done I enjoyed it!
 

rockyct

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Didn't a couple people think it was a helicopter at first?

Anyway, yeah, I think the evidence is pretty conclusive that it was an airplane that hit it. If you were into conspiracies and stuff, I think a better conspiracy would be that the govt had control of the plane and used an auto pilot to crash it. It seems harder to believe that someone who's never flow a jumbo jet in a place he's never flow before crashed it into the first floor of a building at 500 mph.


Note: I still don't believe there was any conspiracy
 

grrl

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Originally posted by: EKKC
Osama bin laden doesn't exist
Saddam Hussein is an American government agent
so is Michael Jackson
9/11 was a ploy to invade the Middle East
Pentagon is just an empty building. DoD is housed actually in some mountain base in West Virginia
Hurricanes are created by aliens

The Zionists (with US backing) caused 9/11 and the tsunami

 

DaFinn

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OK OK, I'll admit it!!!! See, we were playing baseball with some friends next to this gas station... nice big lawn there. Anyway, i was hitting and swung away REAL HARD. Next thing I noticed, there was this HUGE explosion :Q. So, me and friens ran quickly home, and never told anybody... see pop told me to be extra careful about not hitting any windows... and I think we broke like ELEVENTYB!LL!ON!!!

BUT I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE!!! IT WAS MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :cry;
 

rockyct

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Originally posted by: DaFinn
OK OK, I'll admit it!!!! See, we were playing baseball with some friends next to this gas station... nice big lawn there. Anyway, i was hitting and swung away REAL HARD. Next thing I noticed, there was this HUGE explosion :Q. So, me and friens ran quickly home, and never told anybody... see pop told me to be extra careful about not hitting any windows... and I think we broke like ELEVENTYB!LL!ON!!!

BUT I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE!!! IT WAS MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :cry;

There there there. Isn't it better to have this off your chest now? Don't worry, we'll just knock on their door together and you can say you're sorry for putting a large hole in the side of their building.
 

JackRipper

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Seriouly this is a bunch of BS cause i was stationed there... my roomate actually was on the highway... pulled over his service van because they thought the plane was going to graze them....

Half those people who made comments about it sounding like a missle prollie have never been near a live missle or experience a live missle to be able to distinguish between plane and missle...

another thing... have u ever heard turbines they sound a lot like missles depending on where u are hearing the sound....

And the people who died (who were on the plane) were real people... some of them were my patients...

Conspiracy theorists sometimes think too much... they like to fabricate possibilities out of fragments of ambiguous observations. No hardcore evidence... etc...


-TH

 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: JackRipper
Seriouly this is a bunch of BS cause i was stationed there... my roomate actually was on the highway... pulled over his service van because they thought the plane was going to graze them....

Half those people who made comments about it sounding like a missle prollie have never been near a live missle or experience a live missle to be able to distinguish between plane and missle...

another thing... have u ever heard turbines they sound a lot like missles depending on where u are hearing the sound....

And the people who died (who were on the plane) were real people... some of them were my patients...

Conspiracy theorists sometimes think too much... they like to fabricate possibilities out of fragments of ambiguous observations. No hardcore evidence... etc...


-TH

The problem people have is not necessarily it was a missile but not a plane either due to lack of debris. Also I find such a missle expert as yourself wouldn't have made the common misspelling of it almost a half dozen times.

Also on to your crafting things with no hardcore evidence....this whole incident has very little hardcore evidence and most people are buying into the story that was originally presented as venacular. Psychologically this is how many people form their beliefs, even when contrary information is later presented.
 

Lifted

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Come on folks, our government doesn't lie.

We all know that Oswald killed JFK becuase the US government says so.
 

buzzsaw13

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I have a video explaining this a lot better than that stupid flash. If anyone wants to host this for me shoot me a PM
 

buzzsaw13

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Originally posted by: clarkey01
I dont know what to make of it.

See "911 in plane sight". Thats all I'm asking. But of course you'll get " No I dont need to watch it to know what happend" fair enough. I dont side with any story.

Sorry to double post but the video im talking about is what clarkey is talking about in this quote here.
 

Systxm

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Yeah.. i saw a video like that, pretty sure it was a missle myself, but when i was discussing this with my friend, he came up with the good point about the people on the plane, what happened to them then?
 

Sixtyfour

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Originally posted by: gigapet
they had no problem releasing many many tapes of the WTC.
Im in Finland and i was watching LIVE BROADCAST of the WTC strikes.
But i did not see any crash footage from Pentagon.

Now, think about it.

 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: gigapet


im not making up anything. i see there was clearly an explosion of some sort at the pentagon. I am not cinvinced either way on what caused it.


That right there tells me that you lack discernment ability. Any normal person would look at the facts and see the obvious. But some people can't see it. Their mind lacks resolution and problem-solving ability. It's what many people call "common sense". Some people don't have common sense.

hmmm thats funny. Since my job revolves around assembling facts and problem solving.

The facts in this case are flimsy. Plane wrecks usually leave more mess so the obvious conclusion would be it wasnt a plane. Common sense also tells me that decisive videos of the plane as it approached would have been released at the very least to provide a stronger case for the airplane theory. These videos never surfaced. Common sense tells me there are more questions than answers which is why common sense tells me not to believe one side or the other until im presented with something irrefutable.

Its common sense. There is a difference between a plane crash resulting from an accident, falling thousands of feet to the ground and hundreds of miles per hour. And a plan being intentionally flown into buildings.

Did they find lots of plane parts at WTC? id reckon not.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Acanthus

Did they find lots of plane parts at WTC? id reckon not.

dude...a friggen skyscraper fell down with the planes after they had burned in their own fuel for a while


what do you think?:p
 

mdchesne

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in the video, repeats of "It sounded like a missile" and "What looked like a missle" played over and over... HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE SEEN A BALLISTIC MISSLE SMASH INTO THE GROUND NOT 2 MILES FROMM THEM?????? I mean, if they saw anything at all, it was definately not a missile. A missile would be travelling at more than twice the speed of sound before it hits its target. You'd never see it. sound? forget it. the explosion would come before the sound of the missle traveled to your ears. small plane, maybe. 747, sure. Either way, can't be a missile (how would they know what one sounds like ayways?) If it was a small plane and not flight 77, where is flgiht 77?

and the room silences
 

Yossarian

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Originally posted by: Sixtyfour
Originally posted by: gigapet
they had no problem releasing many many tapes of the WTC.
Im in Finland and i was watching LIVE BROADCAST of the WTC strikes.
But i did not see any crash footage from Pentagon.

Now, think about it.

no, you were watching a live broadcast of the SECOND WTC strike. people don't randomly film the sky in case a plane's gonna crash.
 

compguy786

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if the Boeing 757-200 had hit the pentagon, does anyone know the registration on that aircraft ?
thanks
 

moks78

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Originally posted by: EKKC
Osama bin laden doesn't exist
Saddam Hussein is an American government agent
so is Michael Jackson
9/11 was a ploy to invade the Middle East
Pentagon is just an empty building. DoD is housed actually in some mountain base in West Virginia
Hurricanes are created by aliens
...so true! You are the master!;)

 

BrokenVisage

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Anyone remember the plane that was brought down in Hicksville, PA?? Yeah well.. apparently it was brought down by a missle, but we don't even know the full story about THAT either, so WTF I'm not believing a word the govenment tells me until I have concrete proof, maybe it's the atheist in me.
 

conjur

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Jun 7, 2001
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Barbara Olson was on the plane that crashed into the Pentagon. She was on her cell phone w/her husband, Ted Olson, at the time. Remember Ted? He was the lawyer that represented the Propagandist before the Supreme Court back in 2000.

I think he'd know if his wife was dead or not.
 

cronos

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Originally posted by: aniepras
It scares me to think some people are so stupid and we let them freely speak, drive, and possibly work in this country.

not to mention vote *gasp*