Penn & Teller Bull Organic Food

[Amused]

Originally posted by: fleabag
My only want/need for organic food is the worry about pesticides, but after seeing this episode, I'm going to have to do a bit more reading to see if it's really true that you can't buy foods that aren't immersed in pesticides b/c if that's true, then we're fucked.

Let me see, since the advent of modern farming we are healthier, live longer than ever before and have food so plentiful even the poorest among us can afford to be fat... but we're fucked?

That makes no sense.

As for the "organic" movement: It's mostly a joke. However, locally grown produce, "organic" or not will usually be better because it is fresher and vine ripened. Boutique foods, "organic" or not are usually better because of a lower scale of production equaling a higher attention to quality.

Because of this, people have mistaken higher quality and better taste with "Organic" when "organic" actually has nothing to do with it. Boutique foods will always be of higher quality.

Yet another excellent show from Penn and Teller.

 

[WraithETC]

Everyone who knew that the term "organic" doesn't imply any sort of regulatory rules knew this was true. There are terms that do actually mean something in regards to meat and you can look these up on the FDA's website.

Chef's have got it right all along.... locally grown foods in public markets are the best. They travel less distance and therefore aern't subject to perservative tricks and require less petrol to produce because theres no cross country shipping involved.

Buying organic produce is akin to buying oxygen free interconnects for your audio gear... doesnt mean shit when put to the test everytime.

 

[sourceninja]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: fleabag
My only want/need for organic food is the worry about pesticides, but after seeing this episode, I'm going to have to do a bit more reading to see if it's really true that you can't buy foods that aren't immersed in pesticides b/c if that's true, then we're fucked.

Let me see, since the advent of modern farming we are healthier, live longer than ever before and have food so plentiful even the poorest among us can afford to be fat... but we're fucked?

That makes no sense.

As for the "organic" movement: It's mostly a joke. However, locally grown produce, "organic" or not will usually be better because it is fresher and vine ripened. Boutique foods, "organic" or not are usually better because of a lower scale of production equaling a higher attention to quality.

Because of this, people have mistaken higher quality and better taste with "Organic" when "organic" actually has nothing to do with it. Boutique foods will always be of higher quality.

Yet another excellent show from Penn and Teller.

Yea, I don't buy organic, but I do buy a lot of locally grown foods. Nothing like hitting the farmers market down the street and buying some corn/tomato/etc from the farm just a mile from your house. I find that the food is less bruised and in all around better shape then food at the grocery store. Price is the same too.

 

[SP33Demon]

Just grow your own or buy local. Never shop at Whole Paycheck, that place is a scam. The fish oil I buy is marked up 150% from my online shop (www.luckyvitamin.com). I can understand 50% for convenience factor, but 150%? Fck them.

 

[trmiv]

That organic couple was a crack up. They were so over the top I almost thought they were playing characters.

Not into the organic stuff myself. I do like eating stuff either I or my parents have grown though. It does taste better when you take something right out of the ground or off the plant and cook it. That's just because it's fresher though. My parents started a garden last year and I was shocked how much better corn that we grabbed right off the stalk and cooked tasted than the same corn that we let sit around for a couple of days. Too bad my dad jacked up his veggie garden this year when he got his weed killer and pesticide containers mixed up and doused his entire garden with weed killer. Oops.

 

[Genx87]

Hahaha great episode. I love how self proclaimed organic consumers failed miserably to predict which is organic based on taste.

Their analogy to religion is spot on as well. It is an extension of the global warming religion that has shown up over the past 3 decades.

 

[Modelworks]

I would rather see companies sell things as pesticide free than organic , at least that would actually mean something. Stuff from a garden always taste better for a lot of reasons. I despise hydroponic vegetables , they taste like the water they grow in, plain.

tip for those that are new to gardening. You don't need pesticides or very little of them. Instead use natural remedies. Harmful insects hate catnip ( or any mint plant) for instance , planting it near tomato plants keeps them free of pest. Catnip is also a great mosquito repellent.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
I would rather see companies sell things as pesticide free than organic , at least that would actually mean something. Stuff from a garden always taste better for a lot of reasons. I despise hydroponic vegetables , they taste like the water they grow in, plain.

tip for those that are new to gardening. You don't need pesticides or very little of them. Instead use natural remedies. Harmful insects hate catnip ( or any mint plant) for instance , planting it near tomato plants keeps them free of pest. Catnip is also a great mosquito repellent.

Yeah problem is my cats would get high then use the garden for a litter box

I kid I kid.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: fleabag

Originally posted by: SunSamurai
I feel embarrassed just watching the woman in #3. Where the fuck do they find these nutjobs and how do they sustain jobs?

Maybe she should use some fucking uncooked organic vegan shampoo.

No need to be such a douchebag.. one thing you people on the opposite side of the spectrum are forgetting is the intent.. if these people knew these things, maybe they'd act differently. Anyways you can hardly fault these people as they're trying to do the right thing ignorant or not, it's not like the douchebags who drive around in their H2s just go shopping at the mall and bring their noisy fucking kids into the movie theatre and other associated bullshit. Hippies at the very least have a positive intent which shouldn't be looked down upon while the opposite site are filled with self gratifying douchebags who couldn't give to shits about the effects their behaviors have on others. My only want/need for organic food is the worry about pesticides, but after seeing this episode, I'm going to have to do a bit more reading to see if it's really true that you can't buy foods that aren't immersed in pesticides b/c if that's true, then we're fucked.

I don't think he has a problem with people who simply use organic products, thinking that they're helping the environment. However, I see nothing wrong with being very annoyed at these people who not only use the products, but also run around proclaiming how much they are saving the world & trying to convince others to join them in their misguided efforts. If you're going to have a platform from which you are preaching, perhaps you SHOULD do some research on what it is that you're actually preaching about.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

"And 90 percent were outwitted by a muthafuckin' banana" :laugh:

Of particular interest, was the segment showing that "organic' crops are sprayed with far more toxic and potentially dangerous pesticides, than the latest synthetics in use.

The stoners with the Tee Pee, seriously, it would have been better if they had chosen not to have children, me thinks.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: WraithETC
Everyone who knew that the term "organic" doesn't imply any sort of regulatory rules knew this was true. There are terms that do actually mean something in regards to meat and you can look these up on the FDA's website.

Chef's have got it right all along.... locally grown foods in public markets are the best. They travel less distance and therefore aern't subject to perservative tricks and require less petrol to produce because theres no cross country shipping involved.

Buying organic produce is akin to buying oxygen free interconnects for your audio gear... doesnt mean shit when put to the test everytime.

There actually are rules regarding the use of the word "organic" on product packaging. The USDA regulates it. The farm (or portion of the farm) must be certified organic by a USDA-approved certifying agency.

Link

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Sea Moose
will and teller are classic


This will start somthing

:laugh:

 

[SonnyDaze]

The mythbusters of the bullshit world. Gotta love em.

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: zerocool84
Penn & Teller Bull Shit: Organic Food

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

NSFW

LoL @ all you people for buying organic food. It's just as bad as bottled water.

you're 39 and from san fran...eat an organic cock you hippy. I'll fuckin? hit you with my van.. you'll be pretty organic and one with earth won't ya putz

hmm which 3 billion should go? well africa the contininant is first b/c nobody gives a shit, than parts of south america, than east asia, and on down.

haha just kidding we probably will just export our fat americans so we a utopia of? thin people

No facts here, the F-N idiot Penn doesn't tell you that when you buy? a non-organic tomato, they pick them green, gas them to ripen them and add color to make them look like a healthy tomato - go see the move FOOD, INC for your so actual CONCRETE FACT, not from an BULLSHIT ILLUSIONIST.

I know, it's disturbing but true - The same people that work for pharmaceutical co. but don't touch the drugs because they see first hand the poisons that go into it. The non-organic farmers will not eat the food w/the poisons on it, they are sitting in Corp offices somewhere. Watch the movie Food Inc or at least the? trailer on YouTube and we can discuss further.

No, just educated. If you don't have time find out facts, at least watch the movie Food, Inc. or the trailer on YouTube.

Julielalaful: let the idiots feast on their poison that will give them cancer and die at an early age. Processed foods, aspartame, splenda, MSG, high fructose corn syrup, artificial flavors & colors, etc. That poison is in everything? these days. You cannot save people from their own ignorance.

Originally posted by: Sea Moose
will and teller are classic


This will start somthing

I can belive the earth is a shell we're on the inside and space it the core but that? dosnt make it true.
didnt swine flu convince all you id10ts that bacteria EVOLVES and change's its traits

Isnt it funny how science is "liberal"
You liberals with your science and COMPUTERS AND YOUTUBE AND THE HOSPITAL? WERE YOU WERE BORN
why do you think the infant mortality rate has gone down since the 1500's, god wanted to cut back on killing babies, no (If it was up to him even more kids would get cancer) it's liberal science advancements

God didn't make it happen he just let it happen
he doesn't control everything he just let's it happen even if he has the ability to change it
NEVER let an atheist explain the bible
let a Christian explain it, then decide?

maybe you came from an ape! I didn't! I don't believe in it, so? end of discussion

There is no God because if there was he wouldn`t have people suffer everyday by exposing people to sonic torture like Coldplay and wouldn`t allow dead pedophiles to be worshipped like Gods on national TV. If there was a God he would have Megan Fox sit her naked ass on my? face and piss.

Oh man, Youtube comment are something else.

 

[Syringer]

I'm just starting it right now, but this taste test itself is BS. Taste is completely subjective, and if people want to believe it tastes better then all the more power to them. I may not find it more tasteful, but if these people want to believe it's better, then all the more power to them.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Syringer
I'm just starting it right now, but this taste test itself is BS. Taste is completely subjective, and if people want to believe it tastes better then all the more power to them. I may not find it more tasteful, but if these people want to believe it's better, then all the more power to them.

Meh, they come back to it later in a better way.

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: Syringer
I'm just starting it right now, but this taste test itself is BS. Taste is completely subjective, and if people want to believe it tastes better then all the more power to them. I may not find it more tasteful, but if these people want to believe it's better, then all the more power to them.

wow.

go eat an organic spider.

 

[SunSamurai]

Originally posted by: fleabag

Originally posted by: SunSamurai
I feel embarrassed just watching the woman in #3. Where the fuck do they find these nutjobs and how do they sustain jobs?

Maybe she should use some fucking uncooked organic vegan shampoo.

No need to be such a douchebag..blah blah etc etc lots of other nonsence..

Redefine your conception of "douchebag" because you're doing it wrong.

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
"And 90 percent were outwitted by a muthafuckin' banana" :laugh:

Of particular interest, was the segment showing that "organic' crops are sprayed with far more toxic and potentially dangerous pesticides, than the latest synthetics in use.

The stoners with the Tee Pee, seriously, it would have been better if they had chosen not to have children, me thinks.

Yea that one really got me and then I reseatched it more as well. They are no healthy for you then regular grown stuff. It's marketing plain and simple. Like the other thread we had about organic foods. Many people said it's just your head making you think it tastes better to justify buying it. I've never bought organic and never will.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
"And 90 percent were outwitted by a muthafuckin' banana" :laugh:

Of particular interest, was the segment showing that "organic' crops are sprayed with far more toxic and potentially dangerous pesticides, than the latest synthetics in use.

The stoners with the Tee Pee, seriously, it would have been better if they had chosen not to have children, me thinks.

Yea that one really got me and then I reseatched it more as well. They are no healthy for you then regular grown stuff. It's marketing plain and simple. Like the other thread we had about organic foods. Many people said it's just your head making you think it tastes better to justify buying it. I've never bought organic and never will.

I think I'd be able to tell they were the same banana, or at least tasted the same. I'm pretty objective with my food purchases. I probably would have rejected both apples, as I imagine they were Red Delicious. If they were a decent variety, grown with equal care, I imagine they'd taste the same.

 

[James Bond]

Marked

 

[Chiropteran]

reposting from the other thread:

Organic foods, such a scam.

First of all, the name is ridiculously bad. All foods are organic in a literal sense. It's like if Toyota designed a new car and decided to call it a mechanical car, and then advertised that it was the only company to sell 100% mechanical cars. If it's free of chemicals, call it chemical free. The apple I bought with pesticides used in farming it was grown organically despite the fact it doesn't have an organic sticker and a tripled price tag.

Other than that, I think the whole "organic food taste better" thing is a scam. As Amused noted the more expensive foods taste better for a variety of reasons, not the lack of chemicals. I'd love to see a blind taste test where people try 2 different apples and identify which one tastes more "organic", I bet most people would get it wrong. It's just a placebo effect- by paying more you expect the food to taste better.

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: fleabag

Originally posted by: SunSamurai
I feel embarrassed just watching the woman in #3. Where the fuck do they find these nutjobs and how do they sustain jobs?

Maybe she should use some fucking uncooked organic vegan shampoo.

No need to be such a douchebag.. one thing you people on the opposite side of the spectrum are forgetting is the intent.. if these people knew these things, maybe they'd act differently. Anyways you can hardly fault these people as they're trying to do the right thing ignorant or not, it's not like the douchebags who drive around in their H2s just go shopping at the mall and bring their noisy fucking kids into the movie theatre and other associated bullshit. Hippies at the very least have a positive intent which shouldn't be looked down upon while the opposite site are filled with self gratifying douchebags who couldn't give to shits about the effects their behaviors have on others. My only want/need for organic food is the worry about pesticides, but after seeing this episode, I'm going to have to do a bit more reading to see if it's really true that you can't buy foods that aren't immersed in pesticides b/c if that's true, then we're fucked.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions...

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
"And 90 percent were outwitted by a muthafuckin' banana" :laugh:

Of particular interest, was the segment showing that "organic' crops are sprayed with far more toxic and potentially dangerous pesticides, than the latest synthetics in use.

The stoners with the Tee Pee, seriously, it would have been better if they had chosen not to have children, me thinks.

Yea that one really got me and then I researched it more as well. They are no healthier for you then regular grown stuff. It's marketing plain and simple. Like the other thread we had about organic foods. Many people said it's just your head making you think it tastes better to justify buying it. I've never bought organic and never will.

As Amused has been pointing out for years, we could not sustain so many humans without all the advances in agriculture. Yet, there are those who want to go back to the old ways. :thumbsdown: I always think of the old axiom, about how the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

I also think one of the biggest problems, is that propaganda is so effective, and many will not take the time to research any given subject. Particularly if the information comes from someone they know and respect, they just except it as fact.

If they are tasting a difference, it is likely for the reasons stated in the episode, about higher quality control emphasis, not needing to travel far to market, and thus being fresher. With the added benefit of requiring less resources from farm to your basket.

 

[swbsam]

sigh, why must neo-cons keep this shit up? don't like organic? DON'T BUY IT.. If you can afford to spend extra on higher quality then, well, why shouldn't you be allowed to? Penn and teller are obnoxious tools who selectively chose their "experts" - the experts on their sides are people who have their shit together, while the 'liberals' are always raging idiots..

Terrible, terrible show...

And bottled water is awesome - I'm so glad that it's caught on, vs. drinking from spit covered, warm, rust tasting public drinking fountains when out and about.