Penn & Teller Bull Organic Food

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Phokus

Let me teach you about plurals

you idiots

Good job? fail quote is fail

Concussed? Quote is 100% accurate.

P.S. 2nd quote you edited in was because you failed at seeing how JS80 couldn't read

Also, facts are still a problem for you:

Amused:

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Fail quote is fail, phokus argument is fail, frustration call out is fail, having a life facts are fail, concussion insult repetition is fail.

MOM, WHERES THE MEATLOAF?!!!

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Phokus

Let me teach you about plurals

you idiots

Good job? fail quote is fail

Concussed? Quote is 100% accurate.

P.S. 2nd quote you edited in was because you failed at seeing how JS80 couldn't read

Also, facts are still a problem for you:

Amused:

Posts: 46217
Joined: 04/14/2001

Me:

Posts: 12677
Joined: 11/20/1999

Fail quote is fail, phokus argument is fail, frustration call out is fail, having a life facts are fail, concussion insult repetition is fail.

MOM, WHERES THE MEATLOAF?!!!

Tall Bill: can't keep up with me in an argument AND can't deadlift as much as i can

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Tall Bill: can't keep up with me in an argument AND can't deadlift as much as i can

You already said that you weren't arguing with me. Specifically when you said:

Yawn what? I never argued against you, I was introducing nuance and more pesky science into the thread to temper the childlike enthusiasm some of you idiots have for P&T.

Oh that's right, you're either trolling or?


By the way, weight lifting is a personal accomplishment, so I really don't care how much other people can lift.

 

[SunSamurai]

I think Phokus is seriously mildly retarded.

 

[pray4mojo]

this thread is full of win

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: SunSamurai
I think Phokus is seriously mildly retarded.

Nawh, he's just mildly seriously retarded.

 

[SunSamurai]

lulz

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Phokus

Let me teach you about plurals

you idiots

Good job? fail quote is fail

Concussed? Quote is 100% accurate.

P.S. 2nd quote you edited in was because you failed at seeing how JS80 couldn't read

Also, facts are still a problem for you:

Amused:

Posts: 46217
Joined: 04/14/2001

Me:

Posts: 12677
Joined: 11/20/1999

Fail quote is fail, phokus argument is fail, frustration call out is fail, having a life facts are fail, concussion insult repetition is fail.

MOM, WHERES THE MEATLOAF?!!!

Mmmm, meatloaf.

Nom nom nom.

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: pray4mojo
this thread is full of creamed corn.

fixed.

 

[LumbergTech]

this video was mostly bullshit..they pointed out a couple of things you learn about in
pysch 101 such as the fact that people are not very good at knowing the difference in taste tests or other subjective testing

they took the wimpy route and failed to address the strongest arguements from the organic movement..

they took a couple of idiots (albeit nice idiots)

maybe they should have had the balls to talk to some people who at least had the credentials to back up what they claim

 

[EGGO]

Originally posted by: LumbergTech
this video was mostly bullshit..they pointed out a couple of things you learn about in
pysch 101 such as the fact that people are not very good at knowing the difference in taste tests or other subjective testing

they took the wimpy route and failed to address the strongest arguements from the organic movement..

they took a couple of idiots (albeit nice idiots)

maybe they should have had the balls to talk to some people who at least had the credentials to back up what they claim

What are the strongest arguments of the organic movement? I've only heard what they addressed: Better for environment, no toxins used, healthier. Who would be ones with credentials? I know they had a farmer, and one other person.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: LumbergTech
this video was mostly bullshit..they pointed out a couple of things you learn about in
pysch 101 such as the fact that people are not very good at knowing the difference in taste tests or other subjective testing

they took the wimpy route and failed to address the strongest arguements from the organic movement..

they took a couple of idiots (albeit nice idiots)

maybe they should have had the balls to talk to some people who at least had the credentials to back up what they claim

Which arguments would be strongest from the organic movement?

 

[n7]

Excellent.

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: LumbergTech
this video was mostly bullshit..they pointed out a couple of things you learn about in
pysch 101 such as the fact that people are not very good at knowing the difference in taste tests or other subjective testing

they took the wimpy route and failed to address the strongest arguements from the organic movement..

they took a couple of idiots (albeit nice idiots)

maybe they should have had the balls to talk to some people who at least had the credentials to back up what they claim

Which arguments would be strongest from the organic movement?

They always forget to include that part, don't they?

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: LumbergTech
this video was mostly bullshit..they pointed out a couple of things you learn about in
pysch 101 such as the fact that people are not very good at knowing the difference in taste tests or other subjective testing

they took the wimpy route and failed to address the strongest arguements from the organic movement..

they took a couple of idiots (albeit nice idiots)

maybe they should have had the balls to talk to some people who at least had the credentials to back up what they claim

Which arguments would be strongest from the organic movement?

They always forget to include that part, don't they?

How much you wanna bet that he never took psych 101 either?

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Funny thing is, Penn & Teller advocates 'doing your own research', and most of the viewers i know who watch the show take their show as gospel and NEVER do their own research.

Most people - and institutions - simply can not do the research. Do you expect Average Joe to conduct a double blind clinical study on the effects of second-hand smoke?

I enjoy Penn & Teller and I think they do a reasonably good job of playing Devil's advocate. They typically introduce reasonable experts in their respective fields which lends support to the arguments presented.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: LumbergTech
this video was mostly bullshit..they pointed out a couple of things you learn about in
pysch 101 such as the fact that people are not very good at knowing the difference in taste tests or other subjective testing

they took the wimpy route and failed to address the strongest arguements from the organic movement..

they took a couple of idiots (albeit nice idiots)

maybe they should have had the balls to talk to some people who at least had the credentials to back up what they claim

Which arguments would be strongest from the organic movement?

They always forget to include that part, don't they?

Yes, especially in this case. They took some hippie nutballs, paired them with highly educated pawns of the agricultural industry, and carefully edited the footage to give you this piece of work. I'm highly critical of the organic foods movement and its consequences for the world's poor, but this made me lose any respect I had for Penn & Teller (whose past work I'd found amusing).

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: Iron Woode

Originally posted by: swbsam

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: Genx87
Hahaha great episode. I love how self proclaimed organic consumers failed miserably to predict which is organic based on taste.

Their analogy to religion is spot on as well. It is an extension of the global warming religion that has shown up over the past 3 decades.

but climate change due to global warming is real

Not according to pen and teller! Those mother fuckers can make a quarter disappear, so they must be right!

anthropomorphic global warming is bullshit.

sure, and what's the point? The fact that global warming still poses a serious problem is reason enough to do something about it.

Also, has anyone used "sheeple" yet? The true mark of a P+N thread.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: LumbergTech
this video was mostly bullshit..they pointed out a couple of things you learn about in
pysch 101 such as the fact that people are not very good at knowing the difference in taste tests or other subjective testing

they took the wimpy route and failed to address the strongest arguements from the organic movement..

they took a couple of idiots (albeit nice idiots)

maybe they should have had the balls to talk to some people who at least had the credentials to back up what they claim

Which arguments would be strongest from the organic movement?

They always forget to include that part, don't they?

Yes, especially in this case. They took some hippie nutballs, paired them with highly educated pawns of the agricultural industry, and carefully edited the footage to give you this piece of work. I'm highly critical of the organic foods movement and its consequences for the world's poor, but this made me lose any respect I had for Penn & Teller (whose past work I'd found amusing).

Pretty sure he was referring to LT's post.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: LumbergTech
this video was mostly bullshit..they pointed out a couple of things you learn about in
pysch 101 such as the fact that people are not very good at knowing the difference in taste tests or other subjective testing

they took the wimpy route and failed to address the strongest arguements from the organic movement..

they took a couple of idiots (albeit nice idiots)

maybe they should have had the balls to talk to some people who at least had the credentials to back up what they claim

Which arguments would be strongest from the organic movement?

They always forget to include that part, don't they?

Yes, especially in this case. They took some hippie nutballs, paired them with highly educated pawns of the agricultural industry, and carefully edited the footage to give you this piece of work. I'm highly critical of the organic foods movement and its consequences for the world's poor, but this made me lose any respect I had for Penn & Teller (whose past work I'd found amusing).

Pretty sure he was referring to LT's post.

I was affirming that post.. now I am confused.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Farang
I was affirming that post.. now I am confused.

LT was complaining that they didn't address the strongest arguments. I asked what those arguments might be. I think that DA was saying "they always forget that part" as in, LT forgot to mention what the arguments might be. (conveniently, because there might not be any?)

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Farang
I was affirming that post.. now I am confused.

LT was complaining that they didn't address the strongest arguments. I asked what those arguments might be. I think that DA was saying "they always forget that part" as in, LT forgot to mention what the arguments might be. (conveniently, because there might not be any?)

It's more up to Penn & Teller to begin with a fair argument. If they were so right, they could surely find a better source than a couple of corporate mouthpieces (http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind...itle=Hudson_Institute) and use some very obvious duds to represent the organic industry.

Admittedly I don't know enough about the issue but this video gives me nothing to go on because it isn't honest.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Farang
I was affirming that post.. now I am confused.

LT was complaining that they didn't address the strongest arguments. I asked what those arguments might be. I think that DA was saying "they always forget that part" as in, LT forgot to mention what the arguments might be. (conveniently, because there might not be any?)

It's more up to Penn & Teller to begin with a fair argument. If they were so right, they could surely find a better source than a couple of corporate mouthpieces (http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind...itle=Hudson_Institute) and use some very obvious duds to represent the organic industry.

Admittedly I don't know enough about the issue but this video gives me nothing to go on because it isn't honest.

Well I guess it's up to them, unless they did accurately represent the reasons. Nobody has posted anything else yet (other than pain to cows) in this thread.

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: Iron Woode

Originally posted by: swbsam

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: Genx87
Hahaha great episode. I love how self proclaimed organic consumers failed miserably to predict which is organic based on taste.

Their analogy to religion is spot on as well. It is an extension of the global warming religion that has shown up over the past 3 decades.

but climate change due to global warming is real

Not according to pen and teller! Those mother fuckers can make a quarter disappear, so they must be right!

anthropomorphic global warming is bullshit.

sure, and what's the point? The fact that global warming still poses a serious problem is reason enough to do something about it.

Also, has anyone used "sheeple" yet? The true mark of a P+N thread.

It's BS for a lot of reasons. The biggest reason is thinking that we (humans) can alter the climate of earth to any meaningful degree.

The sheeple follow the AGW fairy tales. Educated people know how to think critically and question the so called impending AGW apocalypse.

As for the point: stop wasting time, effort and money on this. Also Carbon credits are bullshit.

 

[DangerAardvark]

I watched Food Inc a while back, and one of the things that annoyed me about that movie was how they would rail against hormones and preservatives and genetically modified crops, then not even bother to give us a scientific explanation as to why those things are harmful. Instead they want us to simply take it as a given that if it isn't "natural", it must be bad for you.