Penn State protects child rapist that was former famous D-Coordinator

[AstroManLuca]

What part of the alleged crime happened at PSU campus and it is normal for students, faculties and coaches to bring crimes happened on campus, including rape I might add, to campus police. Gary Shultz, the vp heading the campus police at the time was one of the first person JoePa talked to.

Not my problem if you haven't attended college and have no clue how things work on campus.

Let's say you're renting an apartment. Water comes in through the ceiling whenever the person living upstairs from you uses their shower. You go to your landlord to report this. The landlord says he will look into it but never does. From that point forward, you simply accept that water will always come in through your ceiling and there's nothing you can do about it. You never try to fix it yourself. You never tell the landlord again.

In my analogy, the landlord and the tenant are both partly responsible for the damage. That is basically what Paterno did. Reports the problem once, nothing happens, never bothers to follow through. Do you REALLY think that's okay?

 

[Miramonti]

It's sad how you still have no idea what the right steps would've been. It isn't like this happened a week ago and Joe Pa didn't move fast enough. This has happened for years. The child rapist was still roaming the facility for years. You are retarded.

I think what he is saying is that if these allegations didn't come to light, and Paterno knew Sandusky was still raping kids, that it's ok because when it was actually witnessed, it was reported.

Great to know we have people like rchiu in this society stepping up willing to make it a better place, atleast if legally bound to that is.

 

[rchiu]

um, no.

I simply understand that an MBA is the biggest waste of time that anyone can commit themselves to and throw their money away for.

I haven't met many bright MBA people that well, simply have an MBA.

Well me being in the 1% says otherwise.

 

[rasczak]

What part of the alleged crime happened at PSU campus and it is normal for students, faculties and coaches to bring crimes happened on campus, including rape I might add, to campus police. Gary Shultz, the vp heading the campus police at the time was one of the first person JoePa talked to.

Not my problem if you haven't attended college and have no clue how things work on campus.

Dude, get your fucking head out of corporate culture and come back to the human side of the world. Alleged or not, the action should have been CONTACT THE POLICE. Nothing more, nothing less. It's a fucking crime, while they did go to campus police, they needed to bring the real cops in. Look what happened because they didn't call the real cops? They got their asses handed to them, they put their school in the shitter publicly and 8 boys will have to go live with the fact they were violated for the rest of their lives. Do you not understand that part? Had they nipped it in the bud back in 2002, called the cops, had him arrested, gone to trial and either be guilty or innocent, they would have have been labeled heroes. The school would not have suffered such a disgrace, and who knows how many kids would have been saved. Do you see the point now? Or will you foolishly stick to your guns on this?

and again, answer my question to you in my post above.

 

[zinfamous]

Well me being in the 1% says otherwise.

hahahaha.

no.

 

[rchiu]

Ok, so if you were on campus and you saw a child getting raped, you would report it to the school and not the police? and if the school didn't do anything, and the rapist kept coming back to campus, you still wouldn't go to the police?

I said we report to campus police, not school, big difference. You ever been to a university?

 

[DrunkenSano]

Well me being in the 1% says otherwise.

The child molesters seem to agree with you, you sure fit in with them.

 

[Miramonti]

Well me being in the 1% says otherwise.

It goes to show a good argument can still be unaffordable, and one can't buy themselves out of social autism and retardation.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

McQueary - Anal sex
Paterno - Horsing around/inappropriate
Curley - Horsing around/inappropriate
Spanier - Horsing around/inappropriate

Yeah, no conspiracy to cover up here...

I wonder what McQueary got to keep quiet for so long?

 

[darkswordsman17]

Well me being in the 1% says otherwise.

Anyone else find it funny that he takes issue with OWS, but has the same views as the even more monumental idiots that rioted over the same opinion as him?

Then again, people who so thoroughly have their argument refuted often try to change the subject and make up straw man arguments.

 

[slayer202]

I said we report to campus police, not school, big difference. You ever been to a university?

I'm talking about real police. Answer the question. and yes. A minor issue can be reported to the campus police. If there was something serious, you call the real police. And if you went to the campus "police" first, if they don't do anything, you call the real fucking police. especially when kids are being raped. are you really this dumb?

 

[zinfamous]

I'm gonna help out rchiu here, as we all now know that he is the typical MBA type, we can certainly understand that he hasn't been exposed to the basic type of knowledge that most people glean simply by interacting with other people, or even taking a more comprehensive course through education.

This is important for you, rchiu, and because I know that this is rarely covered in MBA programs, you can look over this and consider yourself the most educated MBA that ever lived:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics

 

[Jeffg010]

Hay rchiu tell me how you can defend Joe when Sandusky kept coming and going on campus after Joe was told of the rape in the shower.

 

[GrumpyMan]

i wouldn't go that far, however, he is blinded by a fierce loyalty.

So were the followers of Manson, didn't turn out too well for Sharon Tate. But you're right, I really don't believe that he could be so obtuse.

 

[darkswordsman17]

I said we report to campus police, not school, big difference. You ever been to a university?

Where did you say that? All I ever saw was you posting a bunch of garbage about corporate organizational structure and other shit that had nothing to do with your arguments.

But then, that doesn't even matter, as that didn't even happen. They did not report him to campus police, they didn't do shit other than cover it up and let him keep coming back to campus after allegedly banning him.

 

[rchiu]

Dude, get your fucking head out of corporate culture and come back to the human side of the world. Alleged or not, the action should have been CONTACT THE POLICE. Nothing more, nothing less. It's a fucking crime, while they did go to campus police, they needed to bring the real cops in. Look what happened because they didn't call the real cops? They got their asses handed to them, they put their school in the shitter publicly and 8 boys will have to go live with the fact they were violated for the rest of their lives. Do you not understand that part? Had they nipped it in the bud back in 2002, called the cops, had him arrested, gone to trial and either be guilty or innocent, they would have have been labeled heroes. The school would not have suffered such a disgrace, and who knows how many kids would have been saved. Do you see the point now? Or will you foolishly stick to your guns on this?

and again, answer my question to you in my post above.

Yeah somebody need to bring real cop in, but should it be JoePa? The jury already said no, it should have been the school admin/campus police, but you people are still fixated on JoePa.

You'd dismiss me if I tell you the fact I have 2 young boys anyway. But I do have 2 boys and I'd cut the dick off anyone try to molest them. If my son was molested and someone saw it happen and didn't call 911, I'd sue the shit out of him as well. But if someone knew about it after the fact, and immediately talked to the authority he thought in the best position to take care of the situation, but the authority didn't take action, I'd sue the authority.

Only you people on a witch hunt trying to crucify JoePa would be so fixated on him and not other characters involved.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Anyone else find it funny that he takes issue with OWS, but has the same views as the even more monumental idiots that rioted over the same opinion as him?

Then again, people who so thoroughly have their argument refuted often try to change the subject and make up straw man arguments.

I feel bad for him. I take an enormous amount of pride in my degrees from Big Ten universities; there is a very real sense of community despite the size and scope of these schools. I can't even imagine what it must feel like to realize that telling people he went to Penn State will, for the foreseeable future at least, will immediately introduce an elephant into the room. Obviously it's not right, but it is what it is.

Being an apologist on an internet message board for a man whose moral/ethical failure facilitated the rape of children, getting taken to task for being an apologist, and then smarmily asserting you don't care what other people think despite your engagement in the thread is just plain stupid.

If this had occurred at Michigan or Wisconsin, I sure as hell wouldn't be defending what happened. I'd be advocating a total house cleaning, and hoping that it would eventually be a catalyst for positive action.

 

[AMDZen]

 

[rchiu]

Where did you say that? All I ever saw was you posting a bunch of garbage about corporate organizational structure and other shit that had nothing to do with your arguments.

But then, that doesn't even matter, as that didn't even happen. They did not report him to campus police, they didn't do shit other than cover it up and let him keep coming back to campus after allegedly banning him.

Why don't you look up some fact about JoePa talked to Gary Schultz, the VP overseeing Penn State Campus police, the second day after McQueary told him about the incident.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Yeah somebody need to bring real cop in, but should it be JoePa? The jury already said no, it should have been the school admin/campus police, but you people are still fixated on JoePa.

You'd dismiss me if I tell you the fact I have 2 young boys anyway. But I do have 2 boys and I'd cut the dick off anyone try to molest them. If my son was molested and someone saw it happen and didn't call 911, I'd sue the shit out of him as well. But if someone knew about it after the fact, and immediately talked to the authority he thought in the best position to take care of the situation, but the authority didn't take action, I'd sue the authority.

Only you people on a witch hunt trying to crucify JoePa would be so fixated on him and not other characters involved.

More bullshit spin. You're the one that is fixated on Paterno. Everyone else has always said he's just another person who deserves to be fired for his role in this. A witch hunt for just Paterno? Talk about conspiracy theories.

Fuck, we've been trolled. Hard. I guess we can take solace that its not as badly as Paterno trolled rchiu though.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Why don't you look up some fact about JoePa talked to Gary Schultz, the VP overseeing Penn State Campus police, the second day after McQueary told him about the incident.

Um, Schultz does not count as campus police. Fact: Paterno did not file a report with campus police.

Can you actually provide anything that isn't just lies that you twist to somehow try to support your devotion to Paterno?

 

[rasczak]

Yeah somebody need to bring real cop in, but should it be JoePa? The jury already said no, it should have been the school admin/campus police, but you people are still fixated on JoePa.

You'd dismiss me if I tell you the fact I have 2 young boys anyway. But I do have 2 boys and I'd cut the dick off anyone try to molest them. If my son was molested and someone saw it happen and didn't call 911, I'd sue the shit out of him as well. But if someone knew about it after the fact, and immediately talked to the authority he thought in the best position to take care of the situation, but the authority didn't take action, I'd sue the authority.

Only you people on a witch hunt trying to crucify JoePa would be so fixated on him and not other characters involved.

I'm sure he's a smart guy JP is. He should have known that the punishment given by PSU, did not in anyway, fit the crime committed. He, or Mcqueary, or anyone else who knoew about the incident should have called the police. Why didn't he? Why didn't anyone of them? They knew right from wrong, but washed their hands of it once PSU handed out it's own brand of punishment. This is why there is such an outrage against your school, your beloved JoePa, McQueary, the AD, etc.etc. They DIDN'T DO ENOUGH.

Are you happy with the how the issue was handled by Penn State? Don't YOU think something more should have been done? Or you do you wholeheardtly agree with the punishment given?

Again, I am not fixating on one person. All of them are culpable. They all deserve to be fired, they all deserve the final judgement given to them by the court of their peers.

You'd dismiss me if I tell you the fact I have 2 young boys anyway. But I do have 2 boys and I'd cut the dick off anyone try to molest them. If my son was molested and someone saw it happen and didn't call 911, I'd sue the shit out of him as well. But if someone knew about it after the fact, and immediately talked to the authority he thought in the best position to take care of the situation, but the authority didn't take action, I'd sue the authority.

You say that the AD is the authority, and rightfully so, but this is no ordinary situation we have here. Joe Paterno was probably the biggest man on the campus with the most pull and the heaviest influence. He WAS an authority figure on that campus. To say he wasn't would be absolute denial of facts.

As a father, no way would I dismiss you, but you too would be screaming for anyone and everyone's blood if something (God forbid) happened to one of your sons. Be honest with yourself.

 

[Zebo]

Joe owned that town and didn't follow through and even protected this freaks access is why he is gone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEgZeZXSj3I&feature=related

 

[Jeffg010]

"Hay rchiu tell me how you can defend Joe when Sandusky kept coming and going on campus after Joe was told of the rape in the shower."

Ok I see rchiu won't answer this question. I see rchiu is turning a blind eye to it just like JoePa did.

 

[AstroManLuca]

"Hay rchiu tell me how you can defend Joe when Sandusky kept coming and going on campus after Joe was told of the rape in the shower."

Ok I see rchiu won't answer this question. I see rchiu is turning a blind eye to it just like JoePa did.

I think the crux of his argument is once you do the minimum amount of action required to legally cover your ass, you are in the clear.

That makes sense... for people without a moral compass.