Penn State protects child rapist that was former famous D-Coordinator

[Terzo]

Ashton Kutcher tweets support for Paterno without reading up on the news a little first.

 

[rchiu]

you are a morally bankrupt individual.

to answer your question. YES! as a human being he does have the moral responsibility to take it to the cops.

Fvck your definition of moral. You people would be the first to spit in some religious people's face if those people were to tell you it's not moral to have sex before marriage, not moral to jack off, not moral to do this and that. But now that you get to bash some famous guy, the moral definition by you and some law enforcement guy who didn't do his job to prosecute Sandusky in the first place, all of the sudden becomes the golden rule that everyone must follow.

 

[Miramonti]

Ashton Kutcher tweets support for Paterno without reading up on the news a little first.

old news...he ran with his tail tucked between his legs after this one ages ago...relatively speaking.

 

[Terzo]

old news...he ran with his tail tucked between his legs after this one ages ago...relatively speaking.

That's what I figured. This thread is growing fast and I have neither the time nor inclination to stay on top of it.
:hmm:
Maybe I shouldn't be posting then.

 

[cronos]

it looks like the students at PSU are finally doing the right thing and holding a candle light vigil for the Sandusky victims.

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=144845055615007

I have no doubt that most of the PSU students/alums understand what's happening and can see what's right and what's wrong. That the horror that has happened is way beyond football, beyond the legend of Joe Paterno, beyond the University itself.

It's this 1% who are still in denial that we have to help see the light

 

[alien42]

Nice, glad to see some taking a step back, getting perspective, and taking some leadership to start this.

yup, and there is another effort to raise $500k by the end of tomorrow for the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network...

http://rainn.org/ProudPSUforRAINN

 

[Miramonti]

Fvck your definition of moral. You people would be the first to spit in some religious people's face if those people were to tell you it's not moral to have sex before marriage, not moral to jack off, not moral to do this and that. But now that you get to bash some famous guy, the moral definition by you and some law enforcement guy who didn't do his job to prosecute Sandusky in the first place, all of the sudden becomes the golden rule that everyone must follow.

Having a connection to JP, how do you explain how someone could dedicate their lives to setting a standard in helping and leading kids, yet do so little for kids that were obviously at risk (or currently being raped) by sandusky?

Imo it's because he put his program and the school first. You can not be so blind to see the compromise he made to the devil here. And that's giving it the benefit of the doubt...hopefully it doesn't become more sordid and horrifying than this.

 

[cliftonite]

Fvck your definition of moral. You people would be the first to spit in some religious people's face if those people were to tell you it's not moral to have sex before marriage, not moral to jack off, not moral to do this and that. But now that you get to bash some famous guy, the moral definition by you and some law enforcement guy who didn't do his job to prosecute Sandusky in the first place, all of the sudden becomes the golden rule that everyone must follow.

Yeah because those consensual acts are the same as a child being raped lol.

 

[Miramonti]

yup, and there is another effort to raise $500k by the end of tomorrow for the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network...

http://rainn.org/ProudPSUforRAINN

All hope is not lost. And if this institution is going to be able to turn this around in the coming years, it most likely will come from efforts by the students and their respect and sensitivity to the depth of this situation/crisis.

 

[GrumpyMan]

Having a connection to JP, how do you explain how someone could dedicate their lives to setting a standard in helping and leading kids, yet do so little for kids that were obviously at risk (or currently being raped) by sandusky?

Imo it's because he put his program and the school first. You can not be so blind to see the compromise he made to the devil here. And that's giving it the benefit of the doubt...hopefully it doesn't become more sordid and horrifying than this.

That's right, when you make a deal with the devil, he will come collect eventually, so that's what's occurring now. :whiste:

 

[zinfamous]

Yeah, I clearly understand what's wrong here. There are two type of people posting here:
1) Those idiots insisting JoePa is guilty of some crime, there is some cover up and the primary function of PSU is pimping young kids.
2) Those people thinking JoePa is "morally" responsible for not going to the police after the school administrator didn't do enough.

My previous post was addressing idiots belong to #1.

For those belong to #2, I sure hope you hold everyone to the same moral standard and not just JoePa, or that make you all hypocrites.

I got my MBA in PSU. I met JoePa in a few occasions and speeches. Some of my friend are close friends of Paterno family. I have first hand experience meeting him, talking to him and talking to people who knew him extremely well. While that doesn't qualify me as "fully" knowing JoePa's character, at least what I post is based on first hand experience, unlike all you armchair generals.

MBA:

this explains your moral bankruptcy, tied to the corporate teet.

You are too close to Paterno, it seems, to take the facts in perspective.

Got it.

 

[zinfamous]

Fvck your definition of moral. You people would be the first to spit in some religious people's face if those people were to tell you it's not moral to have sex before marriage, not moral to jack off, not moral to do this and that. But now that you get to bash some famous guy, the moral definition by you and some law enforcement guy who didn't do his job to prosecute Sandusky in the first place, all of the sudden becomes the golden rule that everyone must follow.

MBA.

I rest my case.

()

oh, and why is that "law enforcement guy" effectively dead? Please explain. I think we know as much as you do in this matter....

:hmm:

 

[DrunkenSano]

What about the fact JoePa went to the key people in school that is suppose to take care of this type of things the very next day? Include the VP overseeing campus police at the time?

You just "forget" those fact because it doesn't fit the bullsh!h you are trying to sell here?

Are you obtuse enough to think that doing just that is enough? You either have no concept or maturity to understand how bad child molestation is or you're a complete moron. You don't pass the buck up and shed responsibility on this stuff. I really hope you end up somewhere in life where no one has to rely on you.

This isn't just a case of corrupt gambling, an athletic doping, or something that isn't as extreme as child molestation. In this case, a kid was being raped. And it wasn't just one case.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

I got my MBA in PSU.

That explains everything. Apparently the vaunted Smeal School failed to teach at least one of its graduates how to be a decent human. Do you honestly believe that corporate policy protocols apply as aptly to, say, embezzlement as they do to the rape of children?

There is a difference between doing what the law or organization policy dictates and doing what is morally right/ethically correct. If you're already in at least your mid/late 20s, and you do not understand this, then you have failed as a human being.

The lessons here are many. First, no matter how noble and admirable you are, one poor decision can tarnish everything else you've done in your life. Right or wrong, it doesn't matter. It is what it is. There will always be a stigma attached to all of Paterno's accomplishments both on and off the field. Every single time someone mentions 409, these ugliest of events will cross minds. Every single time a PSU student walks into the library that bears his name, he or she might think for a brief moment about what else the name Paterno means.

Second, great power entails great responsibility. Look at Paterno's history. Here is a man who accomplished so much, for so long, precisely because he did not do the minimum. Paterno had an astounding reputation not just in college football for 409 wins, but in all of American academia for doing things the right way. How many other multimillionaire coaches do you see donating huge sums of money to academics? How many other coaches do you see engaging the entire university student body so earnestly for so long? 409 wins is impressive - the fact that he won 409 games while never once having players embroiled in scandal and his involvement in PSU in general are really what makes him a legend. But when it came time for Joe Paterno to blow the whistle on a monster, he chose to do the minimum. He kicked it up the chain of command. That is why there is so much outrage and disgust levied against him specifically and the administration of PSU in general.

Great men do not do the minimum. They do not follow the letter of organizational policy. They do the right thing. If the Grand Jury testimony we've all read is accurate, Joe Paterno is far, far, far from greatness.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Most succinct part of that article:

"Penn State should be shut down. Not just the football program - the entire university. Shut it down immediately."

You misspelled "idiotic." The idea that a university with nearly 100,000 students should be shut down because a handful of administrators and coaches covered up the actions of a pedophile is ludicrous. The administrators who covered for the rapist should be punished, yes. The rapist should be punished, of course. The thousands of professors and hundred thousand students who didn't know about any of it? Yeah, fuck them too! That's justice right there!

Fucking lunacy.

 

[waggy]

amazing that people can still defend him or really think that jopa did enough. it really blows my mind.

I can't see how anyone can just continue to act as if nothing is wrong when they know a man is rapeing a child.


edit: oh fuck THIS is exactly how i feel but he said it so much better.

That explains everything. Apparently the vaunted Smeal School failed to teach at least one of its graduates how to be a decent human. Do you honestly believe that corporate policy protocols apply as aptly to, say, embezzlement as they do to the rape of children?

There is a difference between doing what the law or organization policy dictates and doing what is morally right/ethically correct. If you're already in at least your mid/late 20s, and you do not understand this, then you have failed as a human being.

The lessons here are many. First, no matter how noble and admirable you are, one poor decision can tarnish everything else you've done in your life. Right or wrong, it doesn't matter. It is what it is. There will always be a stigma attached to all of Paterno's accomplishments both on and off the field. Every single time someone mentions 409, these ugliest of events will cross minds. Every single time a PSU student walks into the library that bears his name, he or she might think for a brief moment about what else the name Paterno means.

Second, great power entails great responsibility. Look at Paterno's history. Here is a man who accomplished so much, for so long, precisely because he did not do the minimum. Paterno had an astounding reputation not just in college football for 409 wins, but in all of American academia for doing things the right way. How many other multimillionaire coaches do you see donating huge sums of money to academics? How many other coaches do you see engaging the entire university student body so earnestly for so long? 409 wins is impressive - the fact that he won 409 games while never once having players embroiled in scandal and his involvement in PSU in general are really what makes him a legend. But when it came time for Joe Paterno to blow the whistle on a monster, he chose to do the minimum. He kicked it up the chain of command. That is why there is so much outrage and disgust levied against him specifically and the administration of PSU in general.

Great men do not do the minimum. They do not follow the letter of organizational policy. They do the right thing. If the Grand Jury testimony we've all read is accurate, Joe Paterno is far, far, far from greatness.

 

[Analog]

Buy the book:

http://www.amazon.com/Touched-Jerry-...1037655&sr=8-1

 

[waggy]

Buy the book:

http://www.amazon.com/Touched-Jerry-...1037655&sr=8-1

lol read the "reviews" hehe

 

[zinfamous]

You misspelled "idiotic." The idea that a university with nearly 100,000 students should be shut down because a handful of administrators and coaches covered up the actions of a pedophile is ludicrous. The administrators who covered for the rapist should be punished, yes. The rapist should be punished, of course. The thousands of professors and hundred thousand students who didn't know about any of it? Yeah, fuck them too! That's justice right there!

Fucking lunacy.

agreed. that article is lunatic fringe. as soon as it started ranting about the "entire system needs to be shut down!" i stopped reading.

it reads like another idiot that can't separate a large University from the concept of football.

 

[WT]

You misspelled "idiotic." The idea that a university with nearly 100,000 students should be shut down because a handful of administrators and coaches covered up the actions of a pedophile is ludicrous. The administrators who covered for the rapist should be punished, yes. The rapist should be punished, of course. The thousands of professors and hundred thousand students who didn't know about any of it? Yeah, fuck them too! That's justice right there!

Fucking lunacy.

Indeed !!! Burn them !!! Burn them at the stake !!! Or save us some firewood (its getting cold around here lately) and gas them in the gas chambers. I sense the P&N trolls are having a field day in this thread.

 

[IAteYourMother]

video on the front page of espn...

http://espn.go.com/

Jon Ritchie talks about Sandusky and why it might've been so difficult for those who knew him, to do something about it.

I know people are like how could this have ever happened, but I think really understanding the situation makes you realize why it was so difficult for McQueary and others to do something about it. Doesn't make it right, but helps you understand that it wouldn't have been such an easy decision as some people make it out to be.

 

[rchiu]

MBA.

I rest my case.

()

oh, and why is that "law enforcement guy" effectively dead? Please explain. I think we know as much as you do in this matter....

:hmm:

Oh so you are one of those OWS people....should have seen that with the mob mentality and conspiracy theory you have going here.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Fvck your definition of moral. You people would be the first to spit in some religious people's face if those people were to tell you it's not moral to have sex before marriage, not moral to jack off, not moral to do this and that. But now that you get to bash some famous guy, the moral definition by you and some law enforcement guy who didn't do his job to prosecute Sandusky in the first place, all of the sudden becomes the golden rule that everyone must follow.

Holy hell, you seriously might have just taken the cake for absolute dumbest fucking idiot I've seen post on Anandtech.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Oh so you are one of those OWS people....should have seen that with the mob mentality and conspiracy theory you have going here.

So, if I'm interpreting your posts correctly, you likely knew about this situation and also did nothing to report it?

 

[shocksyde]

Oh so you are one of those OWS people....should have seen that with the mob mentality and conspiracy theory you have going here.

Yeah, we're the 99% that don't like rape.