Penn State protects child rapist that was former famous D-Coordinator

[Miramonti]

video on the front page of espn...

http://espn.go.com/

Jon Ritchie talks about Sandusky and why it might've been so difficult for those who knew him, to do something about it.

I know people are like how could this have ever happened, but I think really understanding the situation makes you realize why it was so difficult for McQueary and others to do something about it. Doesn't make it right, but helps you understand that it wouldn't have been such an easy decision as some people make it out to be.

Absolutely the worst kind of child predator...charismatic, one who everyone respects, trusts, believes in. Same with other scam artists of course, but highlights imo how much more critical it was for those who knew about his pedophilia to help make sure he's held accountable for his crimes.

He understands how McQueary's mind must have been blown seeing what he saw, to the point of just running away, but yet he's also as confused as anyone that people like McQueary and others could continue seeing Sandusky over the days/months/years go unpunished and not held accountable.

 

[rchiu]

Yeah, we're the 99% that don't like rape.

Heh, just like the dumb OWS idiots who have no clue what's going on in the financial world, you JoePa/PSU haters have no clue what's going on too. Little hint here, JoePa didn't rape anyone. JoePa didn't witness the crime. JoePa brought the info to people who should handle the situation.

But nevermind those info/fact. He is just a cool target to bash, just like the imaginary 1%.

 

[shocksyde]

Heh, just like the dumb OWS idiots who have no clue what's going on in the financial world, you JoePa/PSU haters have no clue what's going on too. Little hint here, JoePa didn't rape anyone. JoePa didn't witness the crime. JoePa brought the info to people who should handle the situation.

But nevermind those info/fact. He is just a cool target to bash, just like the imaginary 1%.

No, he didn't. And apparently you'll never understand that.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Absolutely the worst kind of child predator...charismatic, one who everyone respects, trusts, believes in. Same with other scam artists of course, but highlights imo how much more critical it was for those who knew about his pedophilia and make sure he's held accountable for his crimes.

Absolutely more critical, but also more difficult in my mind. I don't think Paterno and others should escape blame and criticism, but I think a lot of us are underestimating how difficult it was for someone like McQueary who first talked to his dad, and then to Paterno. Because a guy like Sandusky is just a stranger to most people on this board, obviously it's easy to say that you wouldve stopped the shower incident right there and called the cops, but I think it's a little more nuanced.

Basically, I think McQueary was morally complicit, and unlikely a coward for not doing more, but I don't think he's a terrible human being like so many people are suggesting. I don't think he'd be the only one to show weakness in that situation, despite tons of forum posts suggesting the contrary.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Heh, just like the dumb OWS idiots who have no clue what's going on in the financial world, you JoePa/PSU haters have no clue what's going on too. Little hint here, JoePa didn't rape anyone. JoePa didn't witness the crime. JoePa brought the info to people who should handle the situation.

But nevermind those info/fact. He is just a cool target to bash, just like the imaginary 1%.

Being an enabler of child rape seems pretty clear cut to me. So he did his part by reporting it. Fine. Then the guy just keeps on rapin'. At that point he had to have made a conscious choice - either follow through on the issue or let it slide since he already "did his part" by reporting it one time.

Oh and trying to somehow tie political beliefs to whether one considers ignoring child rape to be okay is fucking stupid. Last I checked, everyone was disgusted by this whole situation. Well, except you apparently.

 

[rasczak]

What about the fact JoePa went to the key people in school that is suppose to take care of this type of things the very next day? Include the VP overseeing campus police at the time?

You just "forget" those fact because it doesn't fit the bullsh!h you are trying to sell here?

You keep trying to sell us on that, but again fail to realize, Sandusky was NOT a part of the college. He was retired at the time of the incident. So he is no longer a problem of PSU, but the public. ALL parties should have gone to the police. ALL PARTIES. Open your eyes and put your love of JP to the side for a moment and you'll see how wrong you are.

 

[Miramonti]

Heh, just like the dumb OWS idiots who have no clue what's going on in the financial world, you JoePa/PSU haters have no clue what's going on too. Little hint here, JoePa didn't rape anyone. JoePa didn't witness the crime. JoePa brought the info to people who should handle the situation.

But nevermind those info/fact. He is just a cool target to bash, just like the imaginary 1%.

A mother who let's her husband get away with continuously raping children hasn't raped them either.

 

[rasczak]

Judging by his comments it seems to me that rchiu is related to Paterno somehow and attended Pedo State, he also favors child rape instead of firing blind enablers.

rchiu = obtuse and discombobulated.

i wouldn't go that far, however, he is blinded by a fierce loyalty.

 

[rchiu]

No, he didn't. And apparently you'll never understand that.

Go check what PSU police department is suppose to do: http://www.police.psu.edu/

Go check if JoePa talked to Gary Schultz who oversaw the department in 2002.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Heh, just like the dumb OWS idiots who have no clue what's going on in the financial world, you JoePa/PSU haters have no clue what's going on too. Little hint here, JoePa didn't rape anyone. JoePa didn't witness the crime. JoePa brought the info to people who should handle the situation.

But nevermind those info/fact. He is just a cool target to bash, just like the imaginary 1%.

I'm not so sure who's the idiot here - you'd rather engage in name-calling with people you think are beneath you than address the points I made.

 

[Miramonti]

Absolutely more critical, but also more difficult in my mind. I don't think Paterno and others should escape blame and criticism, but I think a lot of us are underestimating how difficult it was for someone like McQueary who first talked to his dad, and then to Paterno. Because a guy like Sandusky is just a stranger to most people on this board, obviously it's easy to say that you wouldve stopped the shower incident right there and called the cops, but I think it's a little more nuanced.

Basically, I think McQueary was morally complicit, and unlikely a coward for not doing more, but I don't think he's a terrible human being like so many people are suggesting. I don't think he'd be the only one to show weakness in that situation, despite tons of forum posts suggesting the contrary.

I'm reserving judgment about McQueary until I know more. He was probably much weaker than he would have liked to be, but doing more could have also been like trying to take down the mob singlehandedly...it's a great way to off oneself (atleast career-wise.) Paterno was god at Penn, and to see him do nothing more than report it must have been mind blowing as well.

I would love to know what conversations they had, and I suspect this will come out in time.

 

[SAWYER]

Joe P should have made it his mission to fire that guy and make sure the law came down on him and anyone who knew, he didnt so he gets no pass. The apologists make me want to puke

 

[7window]

Heh, just like the dumb OWS idiots who have no clue what's going on in the financial world, you JoePa/PSU haters have no clue what's going on too. Little hint here, JoePa didn't rape anyone. JoePa didn't witness the crime. JoePa brought the info to people who should handle the situation.

But nevermind those info/fact. He is just a cool target to bash, just like the imaginary 1%.

How about one day when you have a 10 yo child and I walk by and see him with a 50 yo man in the shower doing his deed. I report to someone what I saw but never follow up. I then see the guy still around after so many years and maybe still around your kid. Finally you found out that I saw the whole thing but never followed up.

Hope you don't blame me.

 

[rasczak]

Go check what PSU police department is suppose to do: http://www.police.psu.edu/

Go check if JoePa talked to Gary Schultz who oversaw the department in 2002.

We get it. You're going to blindly stick to corporate policy. I sure as hell, hope none of my family members work with you as you'll be of no true help to anyone with that mentality.

Let's take this point of view, say YOUR child is being anally raped by a sick bastard, wouldn't YOU want someone to call the cops? Not just campus police or go to the AD or coach or whatever, wouldn't you want YOUR child protected as quickly as possible?

Answer that.

 

[Miramonti]

and a big STFU to rchiu, who's probably given many mental blo jobs to Paterno over the years, rhetorically speaking of course. You have no credibility, even tho that's a sad excuse for taking such a retarded stance and ignoring the facts.

 

[zinfamous]

Oh so you are one of those OWS people....should have seen that with the mob mentality and conspiracy theory you have going here.

um, no.

I simply understand that an MBA is the biggest waste of time that anyone can commit themselves to and throw their money away for.

I haven't met many bright MBA people that well, simply have an MBA.

 

[rchiu]

You keep trying to sell us on that, but again fail to realize, Sandusky was NOT a part of the college. He was retired at the time of the incident. So he is no longer a problem of PSU, but the public. ALL parties should have gone to the police. ALL PARTIES. Open your eyes and put your love of JP to the side for a moment and you'll see how wrong you are.

What part of the alleged crime happened at PSU campus and it is normal for students, faculties and coaches to bring crimes happened on campus, including rape I might add, to campus police. Gary Shultz, the vp heading the campus police at the time was one of the first person JoePa talked to.

Not my problem if you haven't attended college and have no clue how things work on campus.

 

[zinfamous]

Yeah, we're the 99% that don't like rape.

 

[DrunkenSano]

i wouldn't go that far, however, he is blinded by a fierce loyalty.

Sorry, but putting school loyalty over child rape shows that there is something wrong with rchiu's head. He may have a MBA from PSU but any normal person would not blink twice about what's more important, child rape or school loyalty. Most normal people would pick correctly, in richiu's case, he either has no common sense and is only book smart, or he's fucked in the head.

 

[zinfamous]

Heh, just like the dumb OWS idiots who have no clue what's going on in the financial world, you JoePa/PSU haters have no clue what's going on too. Little hint here, JoePa didn't rape anyone. JoePa didn't witness the crime. JoePa brought the info to people who should handle the situation.

But nevermind those info/fact. He is just a cool target to bash, just like the imaginary 1%.

Oh, now you're bringing in another baseless analogy.

typical, of an MBA type.

 

[DrunkenSano]

What part of the alleged crime happened at PSU campus and it is normal for students, faculties and coaches to bring crimes happened on campus, including rape I might add, to campus police. Gary Shultz, the vp heading the campus police at the time was one of the first person JoePa talked to.

Not my problem if you haven't attended college and have no clue how things work on campus.

It's sad how you still have no idea what the right steps would've been. It isn't like this happened a week ago and Joe Pa didn't move fast enough. This has happened for years. The child rapist was still roaming the facility for years. You are retarded.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Not my problem if you haven't attended college and have no clue how things work on campus.

Again, I am speaking as someone who did their undergrad at Michigan and am finishing up a PhD at Wisconsin. I am very familiar with how things work on a Tier 1 research university; I have spent my entire adult life on campus.

You don't seem to be able to understand why people are out for Paterno's head. I already detailed why there is such a staggering amount of outrage leveled at State College. If you want to keep ignoring my arguments and dismissing everyone who disagrees with you as uneducated and beneath you, well, then, I'll dismiss you for those reasons.

 

[slayer202]

What part of the alleged crime happened at PSU campus and it is normal for students, faculties and coaches to bring crimes happened on campus, including rape I might add, to campus police. Gary Shultz, the vp heading the campus police at the time was one of the first person JoePa talked to.

Not my problem if you haven't attended college and have no clue how things work on campus.

Ok, so if you were on campus and you saw a child getting raped, you would report it to the school and not the police? and if the school didn't do anything, and the rapist kept coming back to campus, you still wouldn't go to the police?

 

[Jeffg010]

I might of given Joe a pass if they would of kicked that asshole Sandusky out of Penn State but that is not what happen. They kept letting him come and go and knew full well of what he did and that to me is a disgrace. Everyone involved needs fire and charged. Rchiu how can you even defend something like this? Every time Joe saw Sandusky on campus I wonder what Joe was thinking. How anyone can turn blind eye to that is a cold-hearted selfless human being.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

OK I finally had time to read the entire GJ report.

DISGUSTING! Not reporting this to police, how about not running into the showers and beating the fuck out of this piece of shit and dragging his blood carcass to the police!?!?!?

McQueary, Paterno, Curley, Schultz, Spanier, the janitor, and probably others including several trustees all seem to be shameless selfish assholes. From the beginning everything in the media from Penn State has been about protecting Penn State, and obviously that's what this has been about for many years. Pennsylvania should take over the entire school and get rid of everyone!