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PC3500: Corsair, OCZ, or Kingston?

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I've read a lot of arguments over these three manufacturers' RAM, but I'm still unsure over one point. Does the OCZ and/or Kingston PC3500 actually overclock better than the Corsair, or do people recommend it because it's almost as good but cheaper? Can anyone rank these three in terms of stable overclockability?
 
I think, if your getting the Corsair XMS, it usually can handle tighter timings, or higher speed at relaxed timings.

In other words, I will watch the thread to see what people answer 🙂
 
To add another question to my initial post, does OCZ sell 512MB modules of their oft-mentioned Gold PC3700 RAM? Getting half the RAM at a higher speed doesn't seem like a great deal to me😛.
 
Originally posted by: dxkj
I think, if your getting the Corsair XMS, it usually can handle tighter timings, or higher speed at relaxed timings.

In other words, I will watch the thread to see what people answer 🙂
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yeah but the pc3500 has some weird not so tight timings...


the ocz pc3500EL does 2-3-3-7 i believe @ 217 and the hyperx pc3500 does 2-3-3-7 @ 217 as well...

i'd choose of the these two...
 
Neither. I'd get some Crucial with the micron chips, they seem to be doing past 230MHZ easily.
 
Any validity of whether Corsair has dropped their 3500 and replacing with 3700. As you can read about below from Corsair memory forums. What I am really asking is whether to get the 3700 instead of the 3500, because of the claim that the 3500 won't even run 3200 speeds, because Corsair has started putting thier best memory chips in the 3700. This happened twice in a row to this guy. Need to know - ready to buy.

RAM GUY...I just had a question for you. Here's my situation. I bought a stick of XMS3200c2 512mb last fall. I LOVE this stick of ram. It works great. It runs stable at 446Mhz @ 2 3 3 6. Because I had such good experiences with this memory, I decided to get another exact same stick (for my abit IC7!). Well, I ordered one and to my dismay, it would barely run 400Mhz stably with 2.7 volts. So I figured that my stick must have been faulty because it wouldn't even run pc3200 speeds at default voltage. I sent the stick back and got a stick of PC3500c2 instead. I wanted to be sure that I could run as fast as my original stick. Well, I got this stick yesterday and it has the same issue. It barely runs stable at rated pc3500 (433mhz) with increased voltage at 2.7 volts. ????

I've heard that corsair started putting their best memory chips in there highest sticks of ram... Does the xms pc3500c2 memory not have as good of chips now that you offer twinx?

Anyways, I was sooo happy with my first stick and I find it very odd that I should receive to bum sticks in a row. Any help or information would be greatly appreciated!


 
i have 2 x 512mb HyperX pc3500 running rock solid @ 2-2-2-5 with my P4 2.8B OC-ed to 3.4 on an IC7 mobo with voltage @ 2.8
 
So, anybody got good tip on which is the cheapest one, So far I saw on hot deals forum, frys 119$ for the kingston 3500. Please, post only from dealers that you've actually bought and recieved from.

Can anyone find cheaper for oxz or corsair, from a reputable place?
i.e. good resellerratings.
Vito
 
I bought my OCZ Gold PC3700 from MonarchComputer. Got it from there because I live in CA and wanted to evade a ridiculous 8.25% tax rate.
 
I've been an advocate for Corsair, but now I'm considering buying some $66 TwinMOS modules with 4.3ns chips. What do they hide behind the heatspreaders anyway? I'd like to uncover all this fast DDR to see what it's really made of.

PC3700 Thread
 
Originally posted by: modempower
I wonder how good that twinmos stuff is. I was thinking of trying it myself.
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I think I'm going to try it. It could very well be the same stuff Corsair and others sell anyway. Just do some reading, it's runs good.
 
Originally posted by: badthad
I've been an advocate for Corsair, but now I'm considering buying some $66 TwinMOS modules with 4.3ns chips. What do they hide behind the heatspreaders anyway? I'd like to uncover all this fast DDR to see what it's really made of.

PC3700 Thread
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Here's what OCZ has underneath their heatspreaders, here is a shot of their EL-PC3700, non-Gold: OCZ PCB/Modules
 
Originally posted by: badthad
Originally posted by: modempower
I wonder how good that twinmos stuff is. I was thinking of trying it myself.
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I think I'm going to try it. It could very well be the same stuff Corsair and others sell anyway. Just do some reading, it's runs good.
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I have a stick of 512MB PC2700 TwinMOS RAM which I purchased for $45. It hit's 215 MHz at 2.8 vdimm with relaxed timings. A helluva deal if I say so myself. 🙂
 
If you are getting a Canterwood or 865PE board DO NOT GET CH-5 chipped ram. There is some weird thing where you can not run the fsb past 250mhz, even if you use a divider. So even if the ram is running at spec, the system will not boot.
 
WHat do you think?
275 for 1gig kit of kingston hyperx from newegg at 275 shipped. clock 2227
Or
119$ for 512mb of Kingston Hyperx from fryes 8$ shipping, $246 clock 434MHz settings: 2-4-4-8-1T (CAS Latency 2)

My question is; "doesnt kingston send out a 3500hyperx chip, and it's all the same for every vender? Google gear has this ram
for a similar price to newegg, took the description right from Kingston 2-3-3-7) WHy do three places have 3 different timings, when IT all should be 3500 ram?
Should I goto fryes and save myself 30$
and
SInce newegg sells a kit, is it worth it to get a kit or buy seperate ram?
This was cheapest I could find of 3500 ram of all three I was considering from, OCZ, Kingston, Corsair, from reputable sources.

VIto
 
The below is taken from Kingston website.
So, where did outpost and the others get those other timings from if this is what the manufacturer
posted?

How many forms of the 3500 are there? Is it that the chips they use
Faster buy .5 ns or something?



Kingston HyperX Features:

* Aluminum heat spreader for thermal diffusion
* 184-pin Unbuffered DDR Modules


Description Settings PCB Height

434MHz (PC3500) 2-3-3-7-1 (CAS Latency 2) 1.200" (30.48mm)
 
well, outpost isnt the most reliable of places when it comes down to these kind of things. just go by the timings on the kingston site as it is straight from the horses mouth
 
Would you recommend buying a kit, or getting 2 seperate ones? (the only reason is 2 seperate ones are 30$ than the kit)

Google specs for the 1gb kit are the same as the single, But newegg says the kit has better timings. I'm now inclined to believe that
it's all the same chips, and that I should just buy the 2 single sticks at outpost. SInce it's all reatail boxs etc.

Vito
 
The older HyperX PC3500 was rated for 2-4-4-8, but Kingston changed it a few months ago to 2-3-3-7. I guess some vendors just didn't update their specs pages... I bought mine (2x256MB PC3500) 2 months ago and it's 2-3-3-7, so I doubt you'll get the older kind if you buy it now.

And the kits are nothing special, just get 2 single sticks if it's cheaper.
 
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