imported_Tomato
Diamond Member
Amen, Kei.
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PBS: Daughter from Danang... a.k.a. An Uncultured, Ungrateful American
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Amen, Kei.
imported_Tomato
Diamond Member
Originally posted by: aves2k
You mean the south?
No, I mean her immediate family. Way to jump to conclusions.
UNCjigga
Lifer
I don't think she knew what to expect. Sure, we know that people in 3rd world countries are 'poor' but our concept of 'poor' can vary greatly from the reality in countries like Vietnam. Like you I haven't seen the documentary so I don't know how long it took her to react the way she did...but I would say her reaction could be shock rather than any ungrateful attitude on her part. Like I said, I wouldn't expect the average Bubba or Beckie Sue to act any different, so why expect any more from her?? I've seen a Dateline or 20/20 short similar to this one, involving an airlifted baby from Vietnam being raised in America and then going back to meet her family. She acted completely different compared to Heidi, bringing her mother and older brother to come live with her in the US. However, her family did *NOT* raise her 'white'. They celebrated Vietnamese holidays, ate Vietnamese food, enrolled her in a Vietnamese Sunday school where she could learn the language etc. You ARE a product of your environment...Originally posted by: atom
From the summary it looks like she went there willingly. Why go there if all you're gonna do is act indignant all the time?
imported_Tomato
Diamond Member
No, she didn't know what to expect... she had an idealized image of everything, including her mother, in her head. "I expected her to be a quiet, sweet woman... but she was so... strong and aggressive." I understand her disappointment, in terms of everything she saw not matching what she was expecting... but at the same time, what kind of fantasyland was she living in to be THAT shocked/surprised?
I'd like to see that Dateline or 20/20 short... how wonderful for that daughter to bring her mother and older brother back to a better (subjective) life in the US. And yes, you really are a product of your environment, as painfully observed in this documentary... the family that raised Heidi had her reject her Vietnamese blood for so long... but she admitted memories came back to her through pictures, and even then, she had no desire to explore her relationship with her Vietnamese family any further. Her final statement about her experience: "I guess you could say I've closed the door... (laugher) Hehehe... but, well, I haven't locked it yet. It's closed, but it ain't locked (more laughter)".
*sigh* I just felt so bad for her poor mother... after Heidi pushed her away, her mother cried and said "The money is not important, I am used to being poor... all I want to do is love my daughter, and that will be enough... it is a blessing to have her return after all these years, and I just want to love her and be close to her... I kiss her to keep her essence with me, but she rejects me..." Heidi didn't even give her the chance to love her. Her poor mother basically lost her daughter twice... 🙁
Originally posted by: uncJIGGA
I don't think she knew what to expect. Sure, we know that people in 3rd world countries are 'poor' but our concept of 'poor' can vary greatly from the reality in countries like Vietnam. Like you I haven't seen the documentary so I don't know how long it took her to react the way she did...but I would say her reaction could be shock rather than any ungrateful attitude on her part. Like I said, I wouldn't expect the average Bubba or Beckie Sue to act any different, so why expect any more from her?? I've seen a Dateline or 20/20 short similar to this one, involving an airlifted baby from Vietnam being raised in America and then going back to meet her family. She acted completely different compared to Heidi, bringing her mother and older brother to come live with her in the US. However, her family did *NOT* raise her 'white'. They celebrated Vietnamese holidays, ate Vietnamese food, enrolled her in a Vietnamese Sunday school where she could learn the language etc. You ARE a product of your environment...Originally posted by: atom
From the summary it looks like she went there willingly. Why go there if all you're gonna do is act indignant all the time?
But according to posts, she WAS a product of Vietnam until she was 5-6. So either she repressed those memories or she deluded herself into thinking it was something totally different. It's like she was living in her own little bubble. You don't have to be raised in the culture to know what to expect when you go there. I'm about as ABC as they come, but when I went back to China a few years ago with my family for the first time I honestly wasn't that shocked at all. I expected the village my grandfather came from to be a sh!thole and well, it pretty much was.
Damn, I really wanna see this movie now.😛
imported_Tomato
Diamond Member
As it was explained in the documentary, it is tradition and respect for those who have been fortunate enough to make it to the USA to help their family out back in Vietnam, China, etc. They don't consider it rude when they ask for money because that's how their culture is... helping out financially is expected. It isn't all they care about, but when you live in extreme poverty and your brother or sister across the ocean is buying PS2's and eating out every night, you'd hope they could spare a least a little.
Those of us in situations such as this one (residing in the USA with extended family in Asia) are very, very lucky. We are fortunate to have what we have, and should be grateful to those who did what they could so we could be here... I know that personally, my grandmother lived in poverty with her daughter, living on almost nothing so they could afford to send my father to the USA, and consequently to a better life. He has never forgotten her sacrifices and neither have I... I have extended family in China, and I send money, gifts, etc. when I can. I never feel insulted when I'm asked for money, because I know that's just how the culture is... and if I can spare it, I'll gladly give it.
I dont blame Heidi for her reaction, but I've got admit, Heidi is a fat ass, and I bet she coulda atleast spared them atleast a snicker bar she had in her purse. Cmon! They cant afford to eat. On another note, if her mother was expecting Hedi to come back and help her, big mistake on her part for letting her have a better life. Shoulda let her stay and suffer in vietnam, bet she wouldn't be so fat.😛
0roo0roo
No Lifer
her vietnamese family was a little f^cked up, probably has a skewed idea of what americans are.. rich rich peeps! 😛
she's mental too. all that crying was pitiful. her unrealistic ignorant expectations? pitiful too. plain ignorant to expect anything else.
if you get offended suck it in, good lord. face the situation with a little grace and then leave, not so hard. she's a spoiled tard.
it was like watching trailer trash on vacation. i felt sick watching it.
another bad image of america out there for people. f*ck that b*tch!
she's mental too. all that crying was pitiful. her unrealistic ignorant expectations? pitiful too. plain ignorant to expect anything else.
if you get offended suck it in, good lord. face the situation with a little grace and then leave, not so hard. she's a spoiled tard.
it was like watching trailer trash on vacation. i felt sick watching it.
another bad image of america out there for people. f*ck that b*tch!
imported_Tomato
Diamond Member
Er... they are, compared to economic conditions in Vietnam.
imported_Tomato
Diamond Member
Do you remember the title of that documentary?
imported_Tomato
Diamond Member
Looks great, thank you. 🙂
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