paying extra $$ for additional IP addresses?

[Chau]

how exactly does this work? road runner says its $5 extra each month for 4 extra IP addresses giving me a total of 5 ip addresses...i have a 8-port router connected to the cable modem...how would i give different ip addresses to say 5 of the different computers connected to the router? does it do it automatically or are there router settings for something like this?

thanks

 

[Viper GTS]

You would need to disable the routing capabilities of your router (effectively turning it into an overpriced switch) OR set up routes from all the external IP's to the internals. MUCH easier the first way.

Viper GTS

 

[rootaxs]

I'm just curious, what do you need 4 extra static ip's for?

<--- For the proper delegation and use of static IP's

 

[Chau]

i have an 8-port router, with 8 computers connected to it.. and only 4 of those computers need unique ipaddresses while the other 4 can share one... if i turn the routing capabilities of the router off, how would those ip's be assigned to the computers? will ip1 be given to comp1, ip2 to comp 2 etc.. up to ip5 given to comp 5 and then at comp 6 it'll start over again and get ip1?

 

[Feldenak]

Edit: Misunderstood the question.

 

[Chau]

need multiple aim connections, about 80 connections to 1 server for 4 computers, so if i didnt have multiple ip's, there would be about 320 connections to that 1 server and the server would get suspicous and probably ban my single IP, but having 4 ip's each ip can have 80 connections instead of 320 and it wouldnt be suspicious

 

[ThisIsMatt]

Originally posted by: Chau
need multiple aim connections, about 80 connections to 1 server for 4 computers, so if i didnt have multiple ip's, there would be about 320 connections to that 1 server and the server would get suspicous and probably ban my single IP, but having 4 ip's each ip can have 80 connections instead of 320 and it wouldnt be suspicious

Why do you have 320 aim accounts?

 

[jjessico]

What kind of router do you have?

If you don't have a good router, it is going to be hard to get it to route public IP addresses to one section (subnet) of your network and private, presumably nat-ed, addresses to the other section/subnet.

Let us know your equipment. Also post a diagram of how you would like the network to be, that should help us all visualize.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: Chau
i have an 8-port router, with 8 computers connected to it.. and only 4 of those computers need unique ipaddresses while the other 4 can share one... if i turn the routing capabilities of the router off, how would those ip's be assigned to the computers? will ip1 be given to comp1, ip2 to comp 2 etc.. up to ip5 given to comp 5 and then at comp 6 it'll start over again and get ip1?

What I would do then is connect your "modem" to a switch, connect the router to one of the ports, then connect your PC's that need public IPs directly to the switch as well.

The PC's that can have private IPs will run off the router's inside interface.

A good router will do all that, but assuming you're dealing with SOHO equipment this should work well.

Viper GTS

 

[jjessico]

Ok, diagram of what I think you will want is coming up here in a few seconds. Here is basically how it will go down.

On the router that hooks into your cable modem, lets call it core01, you will need 3 interfaces. The outside interface that connects to the cable modem, (and has the single free, public IP address), lets call that wan01. There will be two local ethernet connections, eth01 and eth02, one for each IP range. On eth01 we will run a 192.168.1.1/24 network. On eth02 we will run the public address space that your cable company assigns you, example case 102.102.102.8/29 (this is 6 useable public address).

 

[jjessico]

ViperGTS had a good idea too. Let me upload these diagrams.

 

[jjessico]

Ok, here is how I would do it if you want to use a core router to manage your network.

http://www.cpinternet.com/~jjessico/boards.at/core.router.idea.jpg

 

[jjessico]

Here is what it would look like if you used ViperGTS's suggestion.

http://www.cpinternet.com/~jjessico/boards.at/core.switch.idea.jpg

I hope this stuff helps. Let us know if you have more questions.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt

Originally posted by: Chau
need multiple aim connections, about 80 connections to 1 server for 4 computers, so if i didnt have multiple ip's, there would be about 320 connections to that 1 server and the server would get suspicous and probably ban my single IP, but having 4 ip's each ip can have 80 connections instead of 320 and it wouldnt be suspicious

Why do you have 320 aim accounts?

I concur. And what's with the "server getting suspicious" bit? WTF are you doing?

- M4H

 

[sciencewhiz]

You could also put two network cards in the ones that need public IP addresses. One connects to the switch in ViperGTS's suggestion and the other connetcts to the router.

That allows you to make sure each computer can talk to the others since they are on the same segment, but also allow the ones that need public IP addresses to get them.

Edit: Noticed that this was what Viper suggested in his first post

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Chau
i have an 8-port router, with 8 computers connected to it.. and only 4 of those computers need unique ipaddresses while the other 4 can share one... if i turn the routing capabilities of the router off, how would those ip's be assigned to the computers? will ip1 be given to comp1, ip2 to comp 2 etc.. up to ip5 given to comp 5 and then at comp 6 it'll start over again and get ip1?

buy a switch.

cable to switch, switch A to Router, Switch B, C, D and E to PC's that need external IP addresses.

 

[Chau]

hey thanks for the suggetions guys..

the router i have is a Linksys BEFSR81 8-port router


would i use this setting in my router to route public ips to certain computers?
http://www.dickwad.net/ot/routing.jpg

OR

viper's idea of switch -> router & individual comps that need private ips:

viper's idea seems the easiest right now to me... ive heard that in some routers u can turn off the routing service and it'll just become a switch is that true? because currently i have 2 routers, the linksys 8 port router, and then also a dlink wireless router connected to the linksys' uplink port.. so if i could convert the linksys to a switch then everything should be fine because i would be able to connect the comps that dont need private ips to the dlink router which is connected to the linksys (being used as a switch) and the comps that need private ip's ill just connect to the linksys individuallly just like viper said...

so mainly i have 2 routers right now and would like to not have to buy any new equipment, i checked the linksys settings and it has the option to turn off the routing.. would that just turn the linksys into a switch? if so then everythign should be alright

here's the setting in the router to turn off the "DHCP Server", is this what turns off the routing?


thanks for all the help guys http://www.dickwad.net/ot/routing2.jpg

 

[RossMAN]

LOL I love your domain dickwad.net

 

[Z24]

What about SnapGear routers? Any thoughts on them? I believe they can take 5 IP's and share them with however many clients in various configurations.

 

[jjessico]

Since you have two switches I would suggest you use This Network Setup to attain your goal.

If you have more questions ask.

Jason
jason.jessico(a)duluth.cpinternet.com

 

[Jmmsbnd007]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt

Originally posted by: Chau
need multiple aim connections, about 80 connections to 1 server for 4 computers, so if i didnt have multiple ip's, there would be about 320 connections to that 1 server and the server would get suspicous and probably ban my single IP, but having 4 ip's each ip can have 80 connections instead of 320 and it wouldnt be suspicious

Why do you have 320 aim accounts?

I concur. And what's with the "server getting suspicious" bit? WTF are you doing?

- M4H

Spamming with 320 bots? 0_o

 

Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt

Originally posted by: Chau
need multiple aim connections, about 80 connections to 1 server for 4 computers, so if i didnt have multiple ip's, there would be about 320 connections to that 1 server and the server would get suspicous and probably ban my single IP, but having 4 ip's each ip can have 80 connections instead of 320 and it wouldnt be suspicious

Why do you have 320 aim accounts?

I concur. And what's with the "server getting suspicious" bit? WTF are you doing?

- M4H

Spamming with 320 bots? 0_o

He is spamming with something if he has 320 accounts of anything just for him.

 

[jjessico]

What if he is running a server? It would be fairly easy to justify the need for 320 connections.

 

[Chau]

Originally posted by: jjessico
Since you have two switches I would suggest you use This Network Setup to attain your goal.

If you have more questions ask.

Jason
jason.jessico(a)duluth.cpinternet.com

ahh thanks i was thinking about that idea... so the last question i have is, i dont have 2 siwtches, but i have 2 routers... is there a way to turn off the routing services of most routers and then they automatically become switches?

thanks

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt

Originally posted by: Chau
need multiple aim connections, about 80 connections to 1 server for 4 computers, so if i didnt have multiple ip's, there would be about 320 connections to that 1 server and the server would get suspicous and probably ban my single IP, but having 4 ip's each ip can have 80 connections instead of 320 and it wouldnt be suspicious

Why do you have 320 aim accounts?

I concur. And what's with the "server getting suspicious" bit? WTF are you doing?

- M4H

Spamming with 320 bots? 0_o

He is spamming with something if he has 320 accounts of anything just for him.

Which would be the reason for him not replying and avoiding the question. This guy is up to no good. Personally I wouldn't help him.