Patriots TE Hernandez in big trouble

[Via]

So no one thinks he's innocent?

Well - the evidence is pretty damning. no?

He was with the guy, people heard shots, he returned without the guy, destroyed his cell before giving it to the cops, paid a crew to wipe his house.

I'm inclined to think he had something to do with it.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Well - the evidence is pretty damning. no?

He was with the guy, people heard shots, he returned without the guy, destroyed his cell before giving it to the cops, paid a crew to wipe his house.

I'm inclined to think he had something to do with it.

ray lewis disagrees

 

[Miramonti]

I can't believe Hernandez could do something like this and think he could get away with it.

Yes I can. But it blows my mind. My point is it's always shocking as hail to see someone so fvcking successful yet possibly be so fvcking off-the-charts stupid outside their realm of success. And if guilty, this makes Rae Carruth look suave.

 

[Anubis]

if he did it i doubt it was planned. kinda sounds like a spur of the moment fly off the handle type thing.

 

[BUTCH1]

TBO IDK, but if you smash your expensive phone before handing it to the cops your obviously had information on it you did not want them to see, if you intentionally disable/erase/destroy your expensive surveillance system it only makes sense that there was damming evidence on it you did not want the PD to see/hear, not to mention you were seen with this person earlier and he's found dead 1/4 mile from your domicile, just add it all up and come to your own conclusions, I wish it was all BS, the Pat's are my team since I was a kid and Hernandez played a pivotal role in the offense, add in BB and Kraft were dumb enough to let Welker get away (to a powerful division rival no less) the situation looks like a huge downgrade for the Patriot offense heading into next season, with Miami upgrading the offense and Denver was already a contender and now they have Welker, any QB's best friend, the emergence of Luck and the Colts, it doesn't look like Brady's chances for the coveted 4th ring are so good..

 

[BUTCH1]

ray lewis disagrees

Yea but kinda of a different situation there, at the very least Hernandez will face obstruction charges and will fall directly in Goodall's sights.

 

[BUTCH1]

if he did it i doubt it was planned. kinda sounds like a spur of the moment fly off the handle type thing.

That was my thinking as well, like the sister texted H's GF "he just beat the crap out of me" and H went off. It will be interesting if the GF's sister comes to the police with any information about a fight between herself and Lloyd, perhaps she won't to try and help H as much as possible..

EDIT: arrest warrent for obstruction coming at any time, the cops are apparently making sure every I is dotted and T crossed on this deal as they know Hernandez has hired very good and expert defense lawyers who would instantly notice any issue in regards as to how the investigation is being handled.
http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9409826/police-expected-issue-arrest-warrant-aaron-hernandez-new-england-patriots-reports-abc-news

 

[soulcougher73]

TBO IDK, but if you smash your expensive phone before handing it to the cops your obviously had information on it you did not want them to see, if you intentionally disable/erase/destroy your expensive surveillance system it only makes sense that there was damming evidence on it you did not want the PD to see/hear, not to mention you were seen with this person earlier and he's found dead 1/4 mile from your domicile, just add it all up and come to your own conclusions, I wish it was all BS, the Pat's are my team since I was a kid and Hernandez played a pivotal role in the offense, add in BB and Kraft were dumb enough to let Welker get away (to a powerful division rival no less) the situation looks like a huge downgrade for the Patriot offense heading into next season, with Miami upgrading the offense and Denver was already a contender and now they have Welker, any QB's best friend, the emergence of Luck and the Colts, it doesn't look like Brady's chances for the coveted 4th ring are so good..

He probably had google back up on and it stored all his photos etc online

 

[Wreckem]

Yea but kinda of a different situation there, at the very least Hernandez will face obstruction charges and will fall directly in Goodall's sights.

Ray Lewis plead out to obstruction of justice charges.

Also, IIRC Ray Lewis was before the NFL instituted its new player conduct policy that gives Goodell HUGE amounts of discretion.

 

[Wreckem]

That was my thinking as well, like the sister texted H's GF "he just beat the crap out of me" and H went off. It will be interesting if the GF's sister comes to the police with any information about a fight between herself and Lloyd, perhaps she won't to try and help H as much as possible..

EDIT: arrest warrent for obstruction coming at any time, the cops are apparently making sure every I is dotted and T crossed on this deal as they know Hernandez has hired very good and expert defense lawyers who would instantly notice any issue in regards as to how the investigation is being handled.
http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9409826/police-expected-issue-arrest-warrant-aaron-hernandez-new-england-patriots-reports-abc-news

If your theory was correct, it would have already come out that his GF's sister was abused. Even if she was it would still be murder 1 if he did do it. But I dont think he actually was the person who killed the guy. My theory is, one or both of his two associates he was seen with that night are responsible and since they were at his house that night, he freaked out and destroyed evidence showing they were at his house because he didn't want to get implicated as an accessory. Obstruction of justice and accessory after the fact are much lighter sentences.

In any event its unlikely he will be playing this year.

 

[BeeBoop]

Reasons why I feel he's guilty of murder one! He doesn't have to be the one to pull the trigger but if he covered it up, it makes him just as guilty. I'm sure that's how the law works right? Maybe murder 2 at the least?

1. Hired a cleanup crew

2. Destroy his surveillance system.

3. Destroyed his phone. Unless he had actual footage of what happened on his phone, it probably doesn't matter anyway since all carriers and cloud services has a backup.

 

[BUTCH1]

If your theory was correct, it would have already come out that his GF's sister was abused. Even if she was it would still be murder 1 if he did do it. But I dont think he actually was the person who killed the guy. My theory is, one or both of his two associates he was seen with that night are responsible and since they were at his house that night, he freaked out and destroyed evidence showing they were at his house because he didn't want to get implicated as an accessory. Obstruction of justice and accessory after the fact are much lighter sentences.

In any event its unlikely he will be playing this year.

 

[dud]

Jogger found a dead body 1/4 mile from his house, dude was dating the sister of Hernandez GF, Hernandez handed the cops his cell AFTER he smashed it to pieces, then destroyed the surveillance system that protects his house, arrest warrant's expect to be issued for at least obstruction of justice or possibly homicide. Way to F-up your life, just got a contract extension worth 50mil, 12 mil signing bonus..

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9410993/family-odin-lloyd-seeks-answers-death-aaron-hernandez-home

This is what happens when you're a "celebrity", you murder someone and get caught destroying the evidence.

Should be more than embarrassing for the Patriots.

idiot ...

 

[BUTCH1]

This is what happens when you're a "celebrity", you murder someone and get caught destroying the evidence.

Should be more than embarrassing for the Patriots.

idiot ...

Not for long, if he's charged with obstruction in a homicide investigation he will not be suiting up this or any other season as a Patriot and then he has to deal with Goodall IF he's not incarcerated. The Pat's have rolled the dice quite a few times and usually come out on top but this one's gonna blow up in BB and Kraft's faces..

 

[Wreckem]

Reasons why I feel he's guilty of murder one! He doesn't have to be the one to pull the trigger but if he covered it up, it makes him just as guilty. I'm sure that's how the law works right? Maybe murder 2 at the least?

1. Hired a cleanup crew

2. Destroy his surveillance system.

3. Destroyed his phone. Unless he had actual footage of what happened on his phone, it probably doesn't matter anyway since all carriers and cloud services has a backup.

If he was an accessory to the crime yes. If he was just an accessory after the fact, no.

 

[Miramonti]

if he did it i doubt it was planned. kinda sounds like a spur of the moment fly off the handle type thing.

Supposedly it was an 'execution style' murder, which sounds like a fairly calculating circumstance.

And was someone (of the 3 non-victims in the group) carrying a gun on a night out drinking (and why?...), or did someone grab a gun in the house where it was being stored (of course hernandez would know where each gun is in the house.) Anyhow, these are more potential precalculating moves that will be probed.

One person pulled the trigger, so it will be interesting to see if one of the other 2 roll on that person.

 

[Wreckem]

They are back at his house. They had a locksmith, dogs, and forensic equipment.

 

[mike208]

The real question is, hould the NSA be expected to turn over their copy of Hernandez's phone calls/texts?

LOL

 

[twinrider1]

...One person pulled the trigger, so it will be interesting to see if one of the other 2 roll on that person.

If all three were acting in the commission of a crime, it's pretty common for all three to be charged with murder, even though only one pulled the trigger.

My original thought was he'd just be charged with obstruction and spill the beans for a plea. But if he was in the room, I won't be surprised if they charge him with murder.


It really is true. The life you get depends a lot on the choices you make. Hang with the wrong crowd and bad things happen.

 

[kage69]

Damn, what a fuggin idiot!

 

[MaxPayne63]

And was someone (of the 3 non-victims in the group) carrying a gun on a night out drinking (and why?...)

Bangers gonna bang.

Always a shame when some kid's skill gets him out of that life then his 'friends' drag him back down.

 

[techs]

Just heard on the radio that the police arrested Hernandez.

 

[Anubis]

Just heard on the radio that the police arrested Hernandez.

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story...dez-new-england-patriots-taken-police-custody

 

[purbeast0]

what a dumb piece of shit.

 

[JM Aggie08]

*Ass joke*