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Patriot Act Two Passed by Senate Intelligence Committee

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: BBond
You are incapable of discussing facts. Attack the person not the facts, right?

Provide something of your own instead of regurgitating ACLU bile.

CsG

When I provide something of my own you people ask for proof. When I provide proof you say I have nothing of my own.

You are full of BS.

When are you going to answer my question? Why are you so hell bent on giving up your rights?
 
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: BBond
You are incapable of discussing facts. Attack the person not the facts, right?

Provide something of your own instead of regurgitating ACLU bile.

CsG

When I provide something of my own you people ask for proof. When I provide proof you say I have nothing of my own.

You are full of BS.

When are you going to answer my question? Why are you so hell bent on giving up your rights?

You didn't provide proof - you just trotted out the same talking points you copied from before.
Address sbacpo's post if you wish to discuss it.

I'm not "hell bent on giving up" my "rights" either.

CsG
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: BBond
You are incapable of discussing facts. Attack the person not the facts, right?

Provide something of your own instead of regurgitating ACLU bile.

CsG

When I provide something of my own you people ask for proof. When I provide proof you say I have nothing of my own.

You are full of BS.

When are you going to answer my question? Why are you so hell bent on giving up your rights?

You didn't provide proof - you just trotted out the same talking points you copied from before.
Address sbacpo's post if you wish to discuss it.

I'm not "hell bent on giving up" my "rights" either.

CsG

You're as big a fool on this issue as you are on all the others. You get the answers you ask for then say they aren't answers to the questions you asked.

If you aren't hell bent on giving up your rights, why are you so hell bent on supporting the USA Patriot Act I & II?

Do you reallly believe keeping Rubick's Cube safe will aid the "war on terror"?

 
Originally posted by: BBond
We'd better start bringing some democracy and freedom to America before we try exporting any to Iraq, even if it is only being used there as an excuse to cover for Bush's unprovoked aggression.

If "Patriot Act II" (a sinful use of the word PATRIOT, imo) passes the full congress, they won't even need a warrant for wiretaps and searches. You won't even have to be declared a terrorist to be the subject of an investigation.

What does any of this have to do with the "war on terror"?

Little by little they're wittling away the Bill of Rights. You people are really going to be sorry in a few years that you refused to recognize the truth and supported this tyranny.

You can listen at the link. I'm sure there will be a transcript available soon.

Patriot Act Two Passed by Senate Intelligence Committee

Thursday, June 9th, 2005

The controversial USA PATRIOT Act was passed in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks. Despite the protests of civil libertarians and immigrant rights groups, the Act may now be made permanent and expanded to allow for surveillance without judicial approval. We host a debate.

The Senate Intelligence Committee voted 11 to 4 in a closed door session on Tuesday to approve an expansion of the USA PATRIOT Act.

The new measure would make permanent eight provisions of the Act, which is set to expire at the end of this year. It would also increase government surveillance powers by granting investigators access to an individual's business records and allowing wiretaps and searches without a demonstrated link to terrorism or a federal judge's permission.

The legislation must still be considered by the Senate Judiciary Committee, the full Senate and the House before it becomes law.

* Harvey Eisenberg, Assistant U.S. Attorney for the District of Maryland. He recently co-authored an editorial in the Balitmore Sun supporting the PATRIOT Act.
* David Cole, professor at Georgetown Law School and author of "Enemy Aliens: Double Standards and Constitutional Freedom in the War on Terrorism." He has an article in The Nation magazine last month titled "The Missing Patriot Debate."

Please America, WTFU before it's too late. If it isn't too late already.

I couldnt have said it better. . .

except, WTFU x eleventy billion.
 
I link to a clip from documentary "liberty bound" wherein one guy tells his story of abuse.

The link is on rapidshare; you need to scroll down, click 'FREE' then wait about 60 seconds b4 you can download it. It is a divx file, 30MB

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