Patrick administration refuses to release Tsarnaev brothers' records

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fskimospy

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And that has what to do with receiving government benefits?

It is about EDUCATION. Not things like welfare.

"On Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s college aid, University of Massachusetts Dartmouth spokesman Robert Connolly said, “It is our position — and I believe the accepted position in higher education — that student records including academic records and financial records (including financial aid) cannot under federal law be released without a student’s consent."

The more you know.
 

EagleKeeper

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What will the release if records accomplish except to inflame?

What useful information is there in terms of student loans, grants, classes and grades.

It is not like UM to have specialized classes in the first couple of years.
 

fskimospy

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What will the release if records accomplish except to inflame?

What useful information is there in terms of student loans, grants, classes and grades.

It is not like UM to have specialized classes in the first couple of years.

I don't know what it would do. Unless it turned out that UMASS has a marathon bombing course that the taxpayers paid for I don't know what that would tell people or what policy changes we would want to make based on it.
 

mchammer187

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Or the left's obsession with Romney's tax returns?

Oh I get it. The public only deserves to know how much money people are giving to the government, not how much the government is doling out to someone :whiste:

No one advocated having the IRS release Romney's records so this is not remotely similar just like the Tsarnaev's are not asking anyone to vote for them so I don't see how your argument makes any sense at all.


Aside from that would I like to see the brothers' records as well as Romney's taxes prior to the election now I don't really care about the latter.
 

Wreckem

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"on dzhokhar tsarnaev&#8217;s college aid, university of massachusetts dartmouth spokesman robert connolly said, &#8220;it is our position &#8212; and i believe the accepted position in higher education &#8212; that student records including academic records and financial records (including financial aid) cannot under federal law be released without a student&#8217;s consent."

the more you know.

ferpa

However, in most states if you are a subject of a criminal investigation, a prosecutor only needs a grand jury subpoena to get access to your medical records and other private records.

So, the media/public cannot get it. Law enforcement/prosecution probably already has it.
 
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Do we get to see medical records for soldiers and veterans? Tax payers pay for them then they have a right to see it too right?

And this is why you can't argue with liberals. You guys have to resort to making idiotic comments like this.
 

unokitty

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I don't understand why so many people want to see where their tax money goes.

I mean its not like anyone here was unsophisticated enough to believe Obama when he said "Government should be transparent. Transparency promotes accountability and provides information for citizens about what their Government is doing."

And if he makes programs that spread the Obama phones around to people that support him, and a few end up in terrorist hands, why should that concern anyone? I mean a Chicago Politician has a right to reward those that vote for him, doesn't he?

Government transparency? LOL, you didn't actually believe him when he said that, did you?

Uno
 

SheHateMe

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And this is why you can't argue with liberals. You guys have to resort to making idiotic comments like this.

You're trying to make this into a political party affiliation issue when what is really going on here is that you're being a fucking dumbass as usual.

How is his statement idiotic?
 

JEDIYoda

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Government benefits are not private. As long as the taxpayer pays for them then they have a right to see it. Those fucking pieces of shit who blocked the records must be fired for this. Do they support the terrorists?
You can say that as loud and as long as you want......it still does not mean you are right.....and you can tag the word terrorist for effect....it only proves one thing -- which is that you are bat shit crazy!!
 

fskimospy

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I don't understand why so many people want to see where their tax money goes.

I mean its not like anyone here was unsophisticated enough to believe Obama when he said "Government should be transparent. Transparency promotes accountability and provides information for citizens about what their Government is doing."

And if he makes programs that spread the Obama phones around to people that support him, and a few end up in terrorist hands, why should that concern anyone? I mean a Chicago Politician has a right to reward those that vote for him, doesn't he?

Government transparency? LOL, you didn't actually believe him when he said that, did you?

Uno

You took Obama's previous statements to mean that his plan was to release private information about citizens in violation of federal law?

Not the brightest bulbs in this thread.
 

yllus

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I don't think that being found guilty of a crime means that your financial and mental health records should become public property.
 

IBMer

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When I buy a shirt at Walmart, does that give me access to all the financial information of the Walton's since I am paying their salary with my purchase?
 

Balt

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I don't see an issue here. Obviously I think the public has a right to know how much total money is being spent on government support like welfare, but I don't see any reason that the public information should go all the way down the individual level.

I think you can probably imagine how much ordinary people would be stigmatized if their name was published in a local newspaper just because they lost their job and received some public assistance. In the end, it would just make it harder for them find new jobs.

If a prosecutor decides they need the information to help secure a conviction (which I seriously doubt they will), they will probably be able to get it.
 
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It isn't about privacy. It is about politicians attempting to keep the information that the Boston Bombers used government welfare to finance their jihad away from the public.
 
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It isn't about privacy. It is about politicians attempting to keep the information that the Boston Bombers used government welfare to finance their jihad away from the public.

Don't expect idiots like obama to call them Jihadists he refuses to do that because he is so PC.

The American taxpayer was forced to pay for jihad and a terrorist attack. Are the idiots who support welfare going to be held accountable for this? NO
 

her209

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Government benefits are not private. As long as the taxpayer pays for them then they have a right to see it. Those fucking pieces of shit who blocked the records must be fired for this. Do they support the terrorists?
Do we get to see medical records for soldiers and veterans? Tax payers pay for them then they have a right to see it too right?
And this is why you can't argue with liberals. You guys have to resort to making idiotic comments like this.
You're pathetic.
 

piasabird

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Any school will release information with a court order to police investigator. It is not like an investigation will find much in school records other than attendance records and the classes signe up for, completed, and dropped. All you need then is a simple computation about the charges.
 

IBMer

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Using this logic, Sandy Hook was tax payer paid as well since the mother was a Teacher and bought her guns with that tax payer money.... Maybe we should start charging all tax payers with accessory charges?