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Patrick administration refuses to release Tsarnaev brothers' records

How are government benefits private? -- simple...same as medical records are private......
You have no business knowing other peoples private business...
Aren't those paying the bills allowed to see where their money is going? -- No!!
 
But government employees' salaries are public records. I have several friends work for state and local governments and their salaries were published by the local newspaper. They were not happy.
 
Government employee salaries and salaries for public sector positions generally are published because taxpayers pay public employees' wages.
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Why are you so interested in seeing their Government benefit records, Biff?


What is the point? Also, why the Academic records? It should be common sense that those are sealed.
 
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Svnla said:
But government employees' salaries are public records. I have several friends work for state and local governments and their salaries were published by the local newspaper. They were not happy.
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there is a huge difference between being an employee and recieving siome kind of benefit from the government....
 
xBiffx

I guess your term "dipshit" should be applied more liberally.

What part of "Federal law" cited in your link do you find unique to MA?
 
Svnla said:
But government employees' salaries are public records. I have several friends work for state and local governments and their salaries were published by the local newspaper. They were not happy.
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I work Fed gov and yes pay information is public. But my benifits (such as my TSP, my doctor, etc...) are not.
 
Svnla said:
But government employees' salaries are public records. I have several friends work for state and local governments and their salaries were published by the local newspaper. They were not happy.
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I'd guess they made more than they were comfortable with other people knowing then.

If they made less than was accepted I'd expect a pity party.
 
Welfare income is hardly the same as medical records so stop conflating the two and using that to defend this.

Knowing if and how much welfare someone receives is not the same and knowing what medical conditions they do/do not suffer from.
 
"On Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s college aid, University of Massachusetts Dartmouth spokesman Robert Connolly said, “It is our position — and I believe the accepted position in higher education — that student records including academic records and financial records (including financial aid) cannot under federal law be released without a student’s consent.”"

"On cellphones, the Federal Communications Commission would not say whether either brother had a government-paid cellphone, also citing privacy laws."

There are many more federal privacy laws and most states use them as a practical guideline for formulating their own laws.

How is a bad guy receiving assistance have any meaning? You could argue that he is an ungrateful bad guy but does that elevate his crimes to a higher level?

This seems as silly to me as people wanting to know what Obama's college grades were.
 
JEDIYoda said:
there is a huge difference between being an employee and recieving siome kind of benefit from the government....
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You mean like the employee is actually providing a service instead of just leaching off society?

:hmm: That would actually kinda argue for reversing how things are done.
 
jackschmittusa said:
"On Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s college aid, University of Massachusetts Dartmouth spokesman Robert Connolly said, “It is our position — and I believe the accepted position in higher education — that student records including academic records and financial records (including financial aid) cannot under federal law be released without a student’s consent.”"

"On cellphones, the Federal Communications Commission would not say whether either brother had a government-paid cellphone, also citing privacy laws."

There are many more federal privacy laws and most states use them as a practical guideline for formulating their own laws.

How is a bad guy receiving assistance have any meaning? You could argue that he is an ungrateful bad guy but does that elevate his crimes to a higher level?

This seems as silly to me as people wanting to know what Obama's college grades were.
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Well we should have access to their health records to determine if they should have been considered mentally unsound. Then we could have taken prospective action against them. I think that's the current wisdom from many.

Anyway, less flip, this is about three things. First the paper wanting juicy tidbits, Second, using them to get at public programs, and third to satisfy public curiosity.
 
jackschmittusa said:
How is a bad guy receiving assistance have any meaning? You could argue that he is an ungrateful bad guy but does that elevate his crimes to a higher level?

This seems as silly to me as people wanting to know what Obama's college grades were.
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Or the left's obsession with Romney's tax returns?

Oh I get it. The public only deserves to know how much money people are giving to the government, not how much the government is doling out to someone :whiste:
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
Anyway, less flip, this is about three things. First the paper wanting juicy tidbits, Second, using them to get at public programs, and third to satisfy public curiosity.
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I'm failing to see a public interest served if those documents were released. I'm sure investigators already have access to them.
 
They're private records, just like medical records used to be before Obamacare. They can still be examined and/or released with a warrant issued by a judge.
 
Jaskalas said:
I'm failing to see a public interest served if those documents were released. I'm sure investigators already have access to them.
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There isn't a public interest. Well there's interest on the part of the public, but that's not the same thing.
 
jackschmittusa said:
How is a bad guy receiving assistance have any meaning? You could argue that he is an ungrateful bad guy but does that elevate his crimes to a higher level?
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It doesn't, but to play devils advocate there are those who want to know if he was financially enabled by a faulty system to get public support which allowed him to be in this country and get what he needed and do what he did. Insult to injury if you will.

A better approach would be to forget about this guy and examine the realities of public assistance, to find out what works and what doesn't. Learn what needs to be kept and what to discard. That's too adult a consideration I'm afraid.
 
Government benefits are not private. As long as the taxpayer pays for them then they have a right to see it. Those fucking pieces of shit who blocked the records must be fired for this. Do they support the terrorists?
 
xBiffx said:
http://bostonherald.com/news_opinio...stration_refuses_to_release_tsarnaev_brothers

Wow. Only in the dipshit state of MA I guess.

How are government benefits private? Aren't those paying the bills allowed to see where their money is going?

What exactly are they trying to hide? The fact that they are guilty of no accountability when it comes to the use of taxpayer money in MA?

Hopefully this gets countered by a court order or something.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Educational_Rights_and_Privacy_Act

The more you know.
 
Incorruptible said:
Government benefits are not private. As long as the taxpayer pays for them then they have a right to see it. Those fucking pieces of shit who blocked the records must be fired for this. Do they support the terrorists?
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Do we get to see medical records for soldiers and veterans? Tax payers pay for them then they have a right to see it too right?
 
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