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sactoking

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I beat the two new sub-bosses going in blind and even got one of the achievements on the eater of worlds sub-bosses. I'm not usually a high achiever in this game so that's a big deal for me.
 
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Finally bough the Fleshcrafter - damn nice DPS boost. REALLY helps with the boss fights and any unique monster.

had an Annihilating Light and Forbidden Flame jewel drop. Not sure what the prices are on these thngs - I see 1C to 1 Mirror?!?!
 

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You have to look up the node on the flame jewel to find its value. Type in "allocates" and select the one that says forbidden flame to search for the node you have.
 

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You have to look up the node on the flame jewel to find its value. Type in "allocates" and select the one that says forbidden flame to search for the node you have.

sorry it's forbidden flesh.
yeah that's exactly what I did. But couldn't find "First to Strike" after scrolling forever
looks like the staff might be worth a little (50C?) with 61% reduced resistances

edit: filtered by class (duelist)
Looks like 6E!!! :)
Now to sell... then what to buy!?
 
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sorry it's forbidden flesh.
yeah that's exactly what I did. But couldn't find "First to Strike" after scrolling forever
looks like the staff might be worth a little (50C?) with 61% reduced resistances

edit: filtered by class (duelist)
Looks like 6E!!! :)
Now to sell... then what to buy!?

You want a better wand first. Here is a search string and you want a wand that has "Trigger a Socketed Spell when You use a Skill" crafted on it..unless you have the unveil already. If you do then you need a different search string. Move your Offering and Desecrate into the wand once you get this.
String: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Archnemesis/7KP2dMnS5

Couple of notes:
- Your PoB makes it look like you have Determination linked to Generosity? If you do unlink it because that's suppose to be for you and not your minions.
- You have Feasting Fiends allocated on your medium cluster jewel instead of Blessed Rebirth. You should swap those as Fleshcrafter only works if you're minions have ES.
- A lvl 21/0 Vaal Skeleton is 8% more damage than a lvl 20/20 Vaal Skeleton so you should buy one
- An Ashes of the Stars amulet with 25% quality to skill gems is worth 12% more damage than your current amulet if you're OK with losing the stats you have on that one.
- Your glove, boots and helmet aren't influenced or unique. Which means you should be using the new Eldritch currency to give them more stats. There are some really good ones. Go here: https://poedb.tw/us/Siege_of_the_Atlas and click on The Searing Exarch and The Eater of Worlds to see what you can roll on those items. You probably have a pile of the lower tier currency of each and they're not worth much so you may as well roll more stats.
- You should swap to Bone Offering instead of Flesh Offering. You lose out on 12% damage but you cap out your attack and spell block. If you did have determination linked to generosity then unlinking that and swapping to Bone should make you feel much more tanky now. You can even dump Rumi's now and use a real amour flask like a Granite Flask of the Tortoise or better with a 60%+ increased effect from an enkindling orb. You'll have big fat phy reduction then.
 
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You want a better wand first. Here is a search string and you want a wand that has "Trigger a Socketed Spell when You use a Skill" crafted on it..unless you have the unveil already. If you do then you need a different search string. Move your Offering and Desecrate into the wand once you get this.
String: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Archnemesis/7KP2dMnS5

Couple of notes:
- Your PoB makes it look like you have Determination linked to Generosity? If you do unlink it because that's suppose to be for you and not your minions.
- You have Feasting Fiends allocated on your medium cluster jewel instead of Blessed Rebirth. You should swap those as Fleshcrafter only works if you're minions have ES.
- A lvl 21/0 Vaal Skeleton is 8% more damage than a lvl 20/20 Vaal Skeleton so you should buy one
- An Ashes of the Stars amulet with 25% quality to skill gems is worth 12% more damage than your current amulet if you're OK with losing the stats you have on that one.
- Your glove, boots and helmet aren't influenced or unique. Which means you should be using the new Eldritch currency to give them more stats. There are some really good ones. Go here: https://poedb.tw/us/Siege_of_the_Atlas and click on The Searing Exarch and The Eater of Worlds to see what you can roll on those items. You probably have a pile of the lower tier currency of each and they're not worth much so you may as well roll more stats.
- You should swap to Bone Offering instead of Flesh Offering. You lose out on 12% damage but you cap out your attack and spell block. If you did have determination linked to generosity then unlinking that and swapping to Bone should make you feel much more tanky now. You can even dump Rumi's now and use a real amour flask like a Granite Flask of the Tortoise or better with a 60%+ increased effect from an enkindling orb. You'll have big fat phy reduction then.

all makes sense except the wand. The link you provided almost all those items have the minion damage crafted. I have the "Trigger socketed spell" unveiled (coincidentally not long before you posted this) Wouldn't I then be removing the minion damage craft?
 

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all makes sense except the wand. The link you provided almost all those items have the minion damage crafted. I have the "Trigger socketed spell" unveiled (coincidentally not long before you posted this) Wouldn't I then be removing the minion damage craft?

You need to scroll down to about the 2ex mark and then you'll start seeing wands with the trigger socketed spell crafts. It's only worth about 5-6% more damage but it feels so much nicer playing when you never have to cast your offering, desecrate or even a third spell by hand anymore. I would also prioritize the +1 All Spell over the minion because it'll also bump up a few of your other gems you're using but it's not a big deal.
 
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You need to scroll down to about the 2ex mark and then you'll start seeing wands with the trigger socketed spell crafts. It's only worth about 5-6% more damage but it feels so much nicer playing when you never have to cast your offering, desecrate or even a third spell by hand anymore. I would also prioritize the +1 All Spell over the minion because it'll also bump up a few of your other gems you're using but it's not a big deal.

with something like this, can I still craft the trigger on it and not lose the existing crafT?
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with something like this, can I still craft the trigger on it and not lose the existing crafT?
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You can only have 1 bench craft on an item so it would erase the minion cast speed you need. Here is the search string you'd use but it probably won't give you much as people who actually ID Convoking wands would craft something on it and sell it. So it's rare that you'll see an item pop up on this list.

 
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You can only have 1 bench craft on an item so it would erase the minion cast speed you need. Here is the search string you'd use but it probably won't give you much as people who actually ID Convoking wands would craft something on it and sell it. So it's rare that you'll see an item pop up on this list.


man the QoL with that wand is niiiiiiiiiiiiiice
I tossed a Steel Skin in on it too for a little extra defense and anti-bleed
 

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I tossed a Steel Skin in on it too for a little extra defense and anti-bleed

Since you said this I thought I'd mention that Guard skills have instant cast time. So most people just set them to left click so whenever you move they activate. That way you have the most up time if you aren't looking to manually cast them. You can do the same thing with warcries if you pickup the Call to Arms node. So Enduring Cry with the Call to Arms node can be put on your left click and you'll just auto cast it whenever you move and it's up.
 

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Since you said this I thought I'd mention that Guard skills have instant cast time. So most people just set them to left click so whenever you move they activate. That way you have the most up time if you aren't looking to manually cast them. You can do the same thing with warcries if you pickup the Call to Arms node. So Enduring Cry with the Call to Arms node can be put on your left click and you'll just auto cast it whenever you move and it's up.

Guess I could do that too.
So far so good with the build now. Really can fly through most maps. Single target, with sniper's mark really goes down pretty quickly. Once I get enough souls and pop Vaal Skeletons, the screen is just covered and nothing lasts.

I've COMPLETELY ignored my flasks, so that's my next thing to upgrade.

It's amazing the currency you can make in this league. And the rework of the Atlas FINALLY makes end-game tolerable and manageable. I don't think I've had to buy a single map or anything. So many scarabs and fragments keep maps absolutely juiced.
 

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Re-worked my cluster jewels this morning. Ran some maps had some nice drops drop (2x The Nurse from one Strongbox). Probably sitting on just under 10E if I start cashing in all my currency. So I can definitely start doing the fine tweaking on this build. Still gotta re-work my flasks

I don't know if it's the league or this build but FINALLY the late game doesn't feel like complete work.

Vaal Temple maps with ambush and all the strongbox nodes on the Atlas spec'ed really makes you rich. I think I'm going to remove Meta nodes and put into delirium
 

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Skele mages are very high up on the easy mode build list. The only real issue is that it's slow moving.
 

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Skele mages are very high up on the easy mode build list. The only real issue is that it's slow moving.

Yeah I get that feeling just based off the million different build guides for it.
Going to thumb through POB to see if changing anything out will have any sort of significant impact. I could use some defensive help as I'm sick of getting one-shotted. I, like everyone else, sure do wish there'd be some sort of feedback on what exactly the cause of death was... Thinking my shield and boots could use an upgrade.
 

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My Suggestion in order are:
- Swap Flesh Offering to Bone Offering which will cap your spell block and almost your attack block
- Remove all the points leading up to Indomitable Army and the points leading to Mystic Bulwark
- Grab the 2 Jewel slots on the left side of the tree for 4 total points
- Grab the +50max life Life Mastery node for 1 point
- Use the 2 other spare points for more life
- Dump your belt for a Darkness Enthroned
- Buy 4 Abyss Jewels that have Max life, Minion Cast Speed and either another defense or offense mod
- Put the 2 best jewels number wise in your belt and the others in the tree
- Get better boots to fix your resists that you lost from the belt
- Get a lvl 21/0 Vaal Skeleton
- Redo flasks now that you don't need Rumi

If you do all that you get capped block, 600 more life and 17% more damage not including flask changes.

Link to abyss jewel search: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Archnemesis/4vOamWwt9
- More defense would be hinder with spells on hit or taunt on hit
- More damage would be a t1 or t2 additional elemental damage of some type
 
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My Suggestion in order are:
- Swap Flesh Offering to Bone Offering which will cap your spell block and almost your attack block
- Remove all the points leading up to Indomitable Army and the points leading to Mystic Bulwark
- Grab the 2 Jewel slots on the left side of the tree for 4 total points
- Grab the +50max life Life Mastery node for 1 point
- Use the 2 other spare points for more life
- Dump your belt for a Darkness Enthroned
- Buy 4 Abyss Jewels that have Max life, Minion Cast Speed and either another defense or offense mod
- Put the 2 best jewels number wise in your belt and the others in the tree
- Get better boots to fix your resists that you lost from the belt
- Get a lvl 21/0 Vaal Skeleton
- Redo flasks now that you don't need Rumi

If you do all that you get capped block, 600 more life and 17% more damage not including flask changes.

Link to abyss jewel search: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Archnemesis/4vOamWwt9
- More defense would be hinder with spells on hit or taunt on hit
- More damage would be a t1 or t2 additional elemental damage of some type

yeah - huge difference with most these changes. I just breezed through T16 maps, and guardians over and over. Gained 50% XP towards lvl93 without batting an eye. And I haven't even redone my flasks yet. And I'm only running with 55% lightning resist right now

Still sitting on a lot of currency. bought some boots but screwed up the socket colors, Probably will upgrade the shield as well.
 
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You're shield isn't that bad. You are overcapped on spell block by 9% though so you could get rid of Mystic Bulwark and use those two points to get that extra jewel slot to the left and buy one of these: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Archnemesis/PwVLLMkSL

Then you'd be 75/75 block instead of 69/75. Just don't run maps that have the 40% reduced chance to block mod on them. Past that you're just throwing currency at the build because you have it. Which just leaves you with big money upgrades for damage. Though 1 really good upgrade you can do right now would be to spend 2ex on a lvl 5 Awakened Minion Damage. That's a 13% damage boost which is quite good at this point for 2ex.
 
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You're shield isn't that bad. You are overcapped on spell block by 9% though so you could get rid of Mystic Bulwark and use those two points to get that extra jewel slot to the left and buy one of these: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Archnemesis/PwVLLMkSL

Then you'd be 75/74 block instead of 69/75. Just don't run maps that have the 40% reduced chance to block mod on them. Past that you're just throwing currency at the build because you have it. Which just leaves you with big money upgrades for damage. Though 1 really good upgrade you can do right now would be to spend 2ex on a lvl 5 Awakened Minion Damage. That's a 13% damage boost which is quite good at this point for 2ex.

Funny I was just shopping watcher's eyes last night and plugging into POB.
Nothing else to add in cluster jewels?
I think I will take that jewel slot just about Bulwark as I'm short on Intelligence (my character is too :))
My ring(s) could be better too
 

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Nothing else to add in cluster jewels?

Not really. You don't have a lot of cheap upgrades left anymore. After you upgrade your minion damage to the lvl 5 awakened I personally would be done with the build. The only thing you should do is get a lvl 20/20 slower projectiles gem and swap that with greater volley when you do single target bosses. Maybe you're already doing the swap but if you aren't it's a 47% damage increase. You'll be sitting at 4m DPS single target with those changes and you should be able to do anything in the game at that point.
 
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Not really. You don't have a lot of cheap upgrades left anymore. After you upgrade your minion damage to the lvl 5 awakened I personally would be done with the build. The only thing you should do is get a lvl 20/20 slower projectiles gem and swap that with greater volley when you do single target bosses. Maybe you're already doing the swap but if you aren't it's a 47% damage increase. You'll be sitting at 4m DPS single target with those changes and you should be able to do anything in the game at that point.

I haven't purchased the slower projectiles gem yet, but I knew that was a "finale" option
I'll be picking up the awakened gem next time I play for sure.
 

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Beat Searing Exarch going in blind on my lvl 90 explosive arrow champion. Died twice, once to the radial explosion when I took a bad line out of the area and once to the rolling balls because I'm not that great with movement accuracy.

Also beat Baran and Al-Hezmin through Kirac missions.

This character is pretty darn good right now, 5mil Sirus DPS and pretty good defenses. Now it's just a matter of tweaking gear, could use a bit more spell suppression, chaos resist, attack speed...

Upgrades from here will be very expensive.
 
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That feeling when you decide to sneak in a couple of maps before you leave for work and a Brother's Stash card drops :)
Cool story behind the card too... well, maybe not "cool", but at least it's a good story.
 

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Beat Searing Exarch going in blind on my lvl 90 explosive arrow champion. Died twice, once to the radial explosion when I took a bad line out of the area and once to the rolling balls because I'm not that great with movement accuracy.

Also beat Baran and Al-Hezmin through Kirac missions.

This character is pretty darn good right now, 5mil Sirus DPS and pretty good defenses. Now it's just a matter of tweaking gear, could use a bit more spell suppression, chaos resist, attack speed...

Upgrades from here will be very expensive.

I hate the rolling balls. They get me too. I suck at precise movements as well. I've got a couple wins under my belt against him though.

If you need some currency, let me know I have some now that I really don't think I can spend except for pretty nominal upgrades that won't change my build all that much.
I can't recommend enough getting all the strongbox nodes in the Atlas tree and running Ambush every map. I've had some ridiculous drops this league via that. I can pretty much run my blight maps now without issue and those oils really add up too. Metamorph has been woefully disappointing.