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I ended up going Explosive Arrow Elementalist. I haven't played a ton, only in Act 4. I just made the swap to EA after lab. I'm way over leveled, I spent a lot of time killing trash mobs for currency early on. Couldn't get enough scrolls to ID great for shards for wand recipe. Then I had a bunch of trouble finding socket colors and links. Now that I've made the switch I've been tearing through content. I have enough DPS to not worry about super juicing the league mechanic and that's been pretty rewarding.
 

Homerboy

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The end game has be heavily reworked. Maps is much different that what it was. The Leauge has good rewards. Been equipping the drops I'm getting.

Yeah I'm only in Act and you can really concoct some touch beasts out of the league mechanics already.
 

Homerboy

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Finally made it to maps.
So far the build is pretty solid all around. Getting that Dead Reckoning jewel will take awhile as it's sitting around 80-90C right now

The guide I'm using says to use Carnage Chieftains as the specters, but does it make sense to have more than one? Shouldn't I use one and then something else like the ribbon monster (forgot it's name off the top of my head). I'm not using animated guardian either - that just seems like a lot of work collecting gear etc or is it a huge DPS boost? I just tossed in Holy Relic for right now
 

rstrohkirch

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Finally made it to maps.
So far the build is pretty solid all around. Getting that Dead Reckoning jewel will take awhile as it's sitting around 80-90C right now

The guide I'm using says to use Carnage Chieftains as the specters, but does it make sense to have more than one? Shouldn't I use one and then something else like the ribbon monster (forgot it's name off the top of my head). I'm not using animated guardian either - that just seems like a lot of work collecting gear etc or is it a huge DPS boost? I just tossed in Holy Relic for right now

The chiefs have a cool down on their spell that gives charges. I would usually run 2 of them to help. You don't need to run an AG if you don't want to as end game mages wreck everything anyway. It just pushes thing another notch up the chain.
 
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The chiefs have a cool down on their spell that gives charges. I would usually run 2 of them to help. You don't need to run an AG if you don't want to as end game mages wreck everything anyway. It just pushes thing another notch up the chain.

Yeah I messed around a little more with AG... just not worth the headache.
Any suggestions on cluster jewels for skeletons? I've more or less "finished" the tree based on the guide, so next pints will start to go towards a cluster jewel branch I think.

Are +1 all intelligence gem wands not a thing anymore? There are not any for sale at all.
 

Homerboy

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those are big numbers, but which build would use it?

Not sure. I didn't think too much of it so I tossed in stash on my 1C tab and I got spam right away trying to buy it. So I backed it out and just set to 1E until I could re-evaluate.
I think I bumped it down to like 15C now and no bites. I'm guessing not too much
 

rstrohkirch

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Yeah I messed around a little more with AG... just not worth the headache.
Any suggestions on cluster jewels for skeletons? I've more or less "finished" the tree based on the guide, so next pints will start to go towards a cluster jewel branch I think.

Are +1 all intelligence gem wands not a thing anymore? There are not any for sale at all.

For clusters I personally ran:

8 passive with Call to the Slaughter and Renewal
4 Passive with Blessed Rebirth and Hulking Corpses
4 Passive with Master of Fear and Evil Eye

On single targets you should be using Snipers Mark as it's a huge DPS boost. You'll also want to at least get a cluster with Blessed Rebirth asap. It states minions created recently can not take damage. This keeps dps update high as the first 4 seconds they are invulnerable. You should buy a Rumi's with at least 10 attack block and 6 spell block to supplement your shield setup.

For key items you want:

6L Fleshcrafter
% Life on block shield with life and spell block
Helmet with +1 skele craft (I have this unveiled if you need it)
Amulet with +1 skele

PoE Trade Links for the shield:

Or this one and craft life

The 6L Fleshcrafter is your biggest DPS boost by far and the shield with spell block and % life on block is your biggest defense bonus. Shield should run you 1ex or roughly 100c if you watch carefully.
 

Homerboy

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For clusters I personally ran:

8 passive with Call to the Slaughter and Renewal
4 Passive with Blessed Rebirth and Hulking Corpses
4 Passive with Master of Fear and Evil Eye

On single targets you should be using Snipers Mark as it's a huge DPS boost. You'll also want to at least get a cluster with Blessed Rebirth asap. It states minions created recently can not take damage. This keeps dps update high as the first 4 seconds they are invulnerable. You should buy a Rumi's with at least 10 attack block and 6 spell block to supplement your shield setup.

For key items you want:

6L Fleshcrafter
% Life on block shield with life and spell block
Helmet with +1 skele craft (I have this unveiled if you need it)
Amulet with +1 skele

PoE Trade Links for the shield:

Or this one and craft life

The 6L Fleshcrafter is your biggest DPS boost by far and the shield with spell block and % life on block is your biggest defense bonus. Shield should run you 1ex or roughly 100c if you watch carefully.

man I was actually going to post today and ask you to review my build. I think the guide I'm following takes a VERY different approach to the build.
what gems were you using in the 6L?
 

Homerboy

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For clusters I personally ran:

8 passive with Call to the Slaughter and Renewal
4 Passive with Blessed Rebirth and Hulking Corpses
4 Passive with Master of Fear and Evil Eye

On single targets you should be using Snipers Mark as it's a huge DPS boost. You'll also want to at least get a cluster with Blessed Rebirth asap. It states minions created recently can not take damage. This keeps dps update high as the first 4 seconds they are invulnerable. You should buy a Rumi's with at least 10 attack block and 6 spell block to supplement your shield setup.

For key items you want:

6L Fleshcrafter
% Life on block shield with life and spell block
Helmet with +1 skele craft (I have this unveiled if you need it)
Amulet with +1 skele

PoE Trade Links for the shield:

Or this one and craft life

The 6L Fleshcrafter is your biggest DPS boost by far and the shield with spell block and % life on block is your biggest defense bonus. Shield should run you 1ex or roughly 100c if you watch carefully.

I did pick up an amulet +1 skele and anointed it with Death Attunement so now I'm running 3/8/10 minions which is pretty dang nice.
That being said, both you and the guide I follow suggest Blessed Rebirth as a "requirement", but honestly, thus far I can't tell you the last time a minion died on me. Does it get worse once you get into red maps (I just picked up my first red map this morning). Right now my minions feel like tanks.. but maybe that's about to change?

I have a decent (I think) shield right now, though certainly the search you linked is better overall. Just a little broke right now.
 

Homerboy

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For those playing this league, how did you build out your atlas? I've pretty much gone full in on metamorph and blight. Having a metamorph appear on what seems like every map really gives a lot of bonus drops and XP
 

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man I was actually going to post today and ask you to review my build. I think the guide I'm following takes a VERY different approach to the build.
what gems were you using in the 6L?

My 6 Link was:
Clearing - Skele / Controlled Destruction / Spell Echo / Minion Damage / Pierce / Greater Volley
Bossing - Skele / Controlled Destruction / Spell Echo / Minion Damage / Pierce / Volley
Multi Boss (Maven or Whatever) - Skele / Controlled Destruction / Spell Echo / Predator / Pierce / Volley

I looked at your guy and you should be running some kind of multi projectile link like GMP,LMP, Volley or Greater Volley. You should be pelting the screen with projectiles but right now you don't have any besides the base 1 for each caster. Skele mages destroy screens but you're not taking advantage of that. The Predator support is basically for things like the Maven fights as it gives you the Signal Prey skill. It allows you to pick a target for all of them to attack instead of them randomly shooting at different targets.

For those playing this league, how did you build out your atlas? I've pretty much gone full in on metamorph and blight. Having a metamorph appear on what seems like every map really gives a lot of bonus drops and XP

I think everyone should have the same start strategy which is straight up through the Kirac cluster to the maps cluster in the center. These are your progression nodes and should be first. From there just pick whatever you have fun playing.
 
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My 6 Link was:
Clearing - Skele / Controlled Destruction / Spell Echo / Minion Damage / Pierce / Greater Volley
Bossing - Skele / Controlled Destruction / Spell Echo / Minion Damage / Pierce / Volley
Multi Boss (Maven or Whatever) - Skele / Controlled Destruction / Spell Echo / Predator / Pierce / Volley

I looked at your guy and you should be running some kind of multi projectile link like GMP,LMP, Volley or Greater Volley. You should be pelting the screen with projectiles but right now you don't have any besides the base 1 for each caster. Skele mages destroy screens but you're not taking advantage of that. The Predator support is basically for things like the Maven fights as it gives you the Signal Prey skill. It allows you to pick a target for all of them to attack instead of them randomly shooting at different targets.



I think everyone should have the same start strategy which is straight up through the Kirac cluster to the maps cluster in the center. These are your progression nodes and should be first. From there just pick whatever you have fun playing.

I actually was running GMP for a bit. I kept switching things in and out and, because all of them were clearing quickly I just ended up with whatever is in there right now (I'm not even sure what's in there right now!) Guide said elemental penetration but $$$.

On a related note, I'm not sure if its this build or something in the league, but my poor old PC can not handle full screens right now
 

Homerboy

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Ok possibly dumb question, but I have a few blight maps, but when I go to open them the Map Device just tells me "Unable to open portals to area".
Every other map works fine - just some random blight maps???
 

Homerboy

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so with prophecies gone, what's the way du jour to get an item 6-linked? I want to get my hands on a Fleshcrafter, but don't want to overpay either
 

rstrohkirch

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so with prophecies gone, what's the way du jour to get an item 6-linked? I want to get my hands on a Fleshcrafter, but don't want to overpay either

At this point in the league the 6L on trade match the cost of bench crafting a 6L yourself. Fleshcrafter costs 4.2ex right now and it costs about 4.2ex to bench craft a 6L.

Make sure you put in a jewel with Blessed Rebirth if you swap in the Fleshcrafter.
 
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At this point in the league the 6L on trade match the cost of bench crafting a 6L yourself. Fleshcrafter costs 4.2ex right now and it costs about 4.2ex to bench craft a 6L.

Make sure you put in a jewel with Blessed Rebirth if you swap in the Fleshcrafter.

Yeah I thought that just buying it outright (B-B-B-B-G-G) was going to be the "right" route at this point more or less. I sure do miss the prophecies...
Only have about 2.5E right now, but money comes pretty quick in this league I feel. FINALLY got an exalt to drop.

I have 1 more point (56% XP) to go and I can add another jewel with Blessed Rebirth. I actually plan on re-specing a few other points once I get the 2nd cluster in place.
 

rstrohkirch

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I have 1 more point (56% XP) to go and I can add another jewel with Blessed Rebirth. I actually plan on re-specing a few other points once I get the 2nd cluster in place.

You have a mastery point in that top left minion cluster set to minions have 100% increased crit chance. Skele mages don't crit so that isn't doing anything for you right now.
 

Homerboy

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You have a mastery point in that top left minion cluster set to minions have 100% increased crit chance. Skele mages don't crit so that isn't doing anything for you right now.

ah!!! I meant to look into that. It's in the POB I was following but recalled reading somewhere that Mages can't crit. Forgot all about that point and triple checking that fact. Thanks for the reminder!
 

Homerboy

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it seems spec'ing the strongbox nodes in the Atlas are really paying off for people (though still a small percentage overall I'm sure)
I allocated them as well and I haven't gotten any FANTASTIC drops yet (one Dragon's Heart div card), the double random currency and T16 maps is a nice bonus.
 

rstrohkirch

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I ran the strongbox nodes in the center and the duplicate currency node in the top right. You get a lot more divines but that's it really from the center nodes. Highest profit potential is beyond with delirium. Guys in our global were doing 6-7ex per hour but most people in that global are running expensive builds now. For consistent easy income, harb and essence are good picks. You get them every map and it's consistent currency you build.

Another good one at this point in the league are Alva missions. You can spec into the Alva wheel just off to the left of upper center and it's pretty easy to get either a lvl 3 gem corrupt or item corrupt room with those nodes spec'd. Right now those sell for 90c and 100c. So if you have a pile of Alva missions you can spec into that, run them with your maps and make a few exalts as well doing that.
 
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I ran the strongbox nodes in the center and the duplicate currency node in the top right. You get a lot more divines but that's it really from the center nodes. Highest profit potential is beyond with delirium. Guys in our global were doing 6-7ex per hour but most people in that global are running expensive builds now. For consistent easy income, harb and essence are good picks. You get them every map and it's consistent currency you build.

Another good one at this point in the league are Alva missions. You can spec into the Alva wheel just off to the left of upper center and it's pretty easy to get either a lvl 3 gem corrupt or item corrupt room with those nodes spec'd. Right now those sell for 90c and 100c. So if you have a pile of Alva missions you can spec into that, run them with your maps and make a few exalts as well doing that.

Good to note. I specced into metamorph and blight and now just added strongbox. Metamorph isn't that great. probably 50% of the time I can barely move the health bar and they end up one-shotting me - even the rogue ones. But when I am able to kill they do leave good loot - especially catalysts. In all the kills I have yet to get enough body parts to actually visit Tane though which seems weird - I forget which organ I'm missing. Blight has been good too and I generally like the battles. Oils produce good currency - I have to really solidify my rings though and anoint them to help out on those high level blight maps.

ALMOST to 4E to pick up the Fleshcrafter.