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rudeguy

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Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

As for speeding or whatever - get the chip off your shoulder! You have no idea the statistics of how many calls police get, you have no idea why they are going that fast. Accept the fact that some people in this world do not need to tell you everything they are doing and ask for approval first.

They do when I'm financing their paycheck....

You don't pay mine. In fact, unless you buy something in the town I work, you don't have a say in what I do.

I also buy stuff in the town that I work in, so by many people's logic here, I'm self employed.

odds are i have purchased something in your town. so i have a say in what you do.

and i say you should come clean up my yard..since i pay your paycheck and all!

I'll be right there, right after I finish mowing the block of lawns I am assigned to do today because well, everyone is my boss. :p

i beer in the fridge! got a case of sam adams and some steaks thawing out!

wait bribary is against the law right? damn nevermind you can't have any beer or steak. bummer

You can't offer me Sam Adams then back away. That's just mean! That's like...murder to me. You are under arrest for killing me by denying me the best beer ever.

You said it was my turn in the handcuffs next time :(
 

Elias824

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When I was a bag boy at Albertsons, I once saw a cop pull up, park in red fire zone at the front of the store, then walk out with a couple of Starbucks coffee's and drive off.
 

Andrew111

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Did any of you actually read the entire article?

White said Manypenny put the boot on cars in the past, including a Northern Regional Jail van transporting prisoners to court. The sheriff said after that incident, he went to commissioners requesting a survey be done to determine if the parking spaces are public or privately owned by the law firm.

So it isn't even clear that the parking space was even the private property of that law firm. And if a survey reveals that the parking space is public property that women has been harassing emergency vehicles who had a perfect right to park in a public parking space and should receive a harsh punishment for impeding their duties.

Even if a survey reveals the spot to be private property, she has no right no boot an emergency vehicle. If she found a police car repeatedly parking in their private parking she should call the police station and file a complaint......which would be the logical thing to do instead of immediately booting an emergency vehicle and therefore eliminating the officer's ability to respond to life threatening situations. It boggles the mind that so many of you are siding with this women.....your attitude would change if you were in a life threatening situation and the only cop nearby couldn't respond because some asinine women thought it was legal to boot an emergency vehicle for parking in a private lot.
 

daniel1113

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Originally posted by: Quintox
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: daniel1113
If the cop wasn't responding to a call (i.e., his lights were not flashing), it's fair game and I commend the woman for holding that cop accountable for his actions. I wish more people would do the same.

It's not reasonable to boot a police cruiser like it's not reasonable to boot a fire truck. They are emergency vehicles.

Then there are no limits as to where police officers can leave their cars and they are effectively given free reign to do whatever the hell they please? I don't think so. He chose to park his car in a private lot for no reason. There is no excuse.

What if you had an emergency and that officer was the closest one to your house? I think then you'd have a different point of view.

Everyone hates the police, until you need them.

I don't hate individual police officers. I hate the position in our society that all police have been given, along with the privileges that effectively place them above the law.

And, to answer your hypothetical situation, I will gladly accept a decrease in my personal safety if it means there is a direct increase in my personal liberty.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Andrew111
Did any of you actually read the entire article?

White said Manypenny put the boot on cars in the past, including a Northern Regional Jail van transporting prisoners to court. The sheriff said after that incident, he went to commissioners requesting a survey be done to determine if the parking spaces are public or privately owned by the law firm.

So it isn't even clear that the parking space was even the private property of that law firm. And if a survey reveals that the parking space is public property that women has been harassing emergency vehicles who had a perfect right to park in a public parking space and should receive a harsh punishment for impeding their duties.

Even if a survey reveals the spot to be private property, she has no right no boot an emergency vehicle. If she found a police car repeatedly parking in their private parking she should call the police station and file a complaint......which would be the logical thing to do instead of immediately booting an emergency vehicle and therefore eliminating the officer's ability to respond to life threatening situations.



did you read the thread? its been mentioned a few time.s
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

As for speeding or whatever - get the chip off your shoulder! You have no idea the statistics of how many calls police get, you have no idea why they are going that fast. Accept the fact that some people in this world do not need to tell you everything they are doing and ask for approval first.

They do when I'm financing their paycheck....

You don't pay mine. In fact, unless you buy something in the town I work, you don't have a say in what I do.

I also buy stuff in the town that I work in, so by many people's logic here, I'm self employed.

odds are i have purchased something in your town. so i have a say in what you do.

and i say you should come clean up my yard..since i pay your paycheck and all!

I'll be right there, right after I finish mowing the block of lawns I am assigned to do today because well, everyone is my boss. :p

i beer in the fridge! got a case of sam adams and some steaks thawing out!

wait bribary is against the law right? damn nevermind you can't have any beer or steak. bummer

You can't offer me Sam Adams then back away. That's just mean! That's like...murder to me. You are under arrest for killing me by denying me the best beer ever.

You will never take me ...sobeR! i will drink all 24 before you get here! mwhahahahha!
 

octopus41092

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Originally posted by: daniel1113
If the cop wasn't responding to a call (i.e., his lights were not flashing), it's fair game and I commend the woman for holding that cop accountable for his actions. I wish more people would do the same.


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daniel1113

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Originally posted by: Andrew111
Did any of you actually read the entire article?

White said Manypenny put the boot on cars in the past, including a Northern Regional Jail van transporting prisoners to court. The sheriff said after that incident, he went to commissioners requesting a survey be done to determine if the parking spaces are public or privately owned by the law firm.

So it isn't even clear that the parking space was even the private property of that law firm. And if a survey reveals that the parking space is public property that women has been harassing emergency vehicles who had a perfect right to park in a public parking space and should receive a harsh punishment for impeding their duties.

Even if a survey reveals the spot to be private property, she has no right no boot an emergency vehicle. If she found a police car repeatedly parking in their private parking she should call the police station and file a complaint......which would be the logical thing to do instead of immediately booting an emergency vehicle and therefore eliminating the officer's ability to respond to life threatening situations.

While I do not disagree with your assessment, do you really believe that complaining to a superior at the police station is going to change anything? I'd like to be proven wrong, but I think we all know that in most cases, nothing will happen.
 

Andrew111

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Andrew111
Did any of you actually read the entire article?

White said Manypenny put the boot on cars in the past, including a Northern Regional Jail van transporting prisoners to court. The sheriff said after that incident, he went to commissioners requesting a survey be done to determine if the parking spaces are public or privately owned by the law firm.

So it isn't even clear that the parking space was even the private property of that law firm. And if a survey reveals that the parking space is public property that women has been harassing emergency vehicles who had a perfect right to park in a public parking space and should receive a harsh punishment for impeding their duties.

Even if a survey reveals the spot to be private property, she has no right no boot an emergency vehicle. If she found a police car repeatedly parking in their private parking she should call the police station and file a complaint......which would be the logical thing to do instead of immediately booting an emergency vehicle and therefore eliminating the officer's ability to respond to life threatening situations.


did you read the thread? its been mentioned a few time.s

I didn't read all the responses but the article indicates that the police aren't even sure the parking area in question was private property.....although I would think a law firm wouldn't be so dense as to put a parking sign up for a public parking space......but this same law firm believes it is okay to boot emergency vehicles so who knows.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: iGas

<-- pull out a lawn chair.

Boots iGas' lawn chair and yells at him, "GET OFF MY LAWN!" :p

Phew, I read this entire thread, pity me. Underlying this brouhaha I think we have two valid points.

First: Don't boot an emergency vehicle. I don't care WHO you think are, drunk-with-power lady who is assistant to the under-assistant in charge of the office supply closet and parking lot, you rashly exceeded your authority.

Second: Yes, some lazy cops routinely abuse their otherwise necessary privileges. In fact, in some Eastern urban areas I know well, this routine abuse goes far beyond anything being discussed here, but that's another story.

However, in most areas, any one complainer's impression of abuse far exceeds the actual amount that happens, simply because police are so high profile, what with the uniforms and guns and cruisers and all. ;)

A bad cop's actions or inactions tend to stick in your mind all out of proportion to the actual prevalence of police abuse out there.

Bottom line: A fish rots from the head. I have seen this time and time again, a police department's attitude is only as good as it's leadership. This starts with the Chief. If he (yeah, he) emphasizes respect and community relations, then that's what we get.

But if he's stuck in some 1940's time warp of good ol' boys doing pretty much whatever they want, then that's what we get.

Bottom Line: No matter how RIGHT you think you are, it is dead-nuts illegal to boot an emergency vehicle.

I started out making easy fun of the woman who self-importantly booted the cop car, and, YES, she did exceed her authority. But you can bet her actions didn't happen in a vacuum.

"A law office near the courthouse." So many county seats are otherwise fairly sleepy towns which have grown up and become extremely densely packed in their center over time as the population of the country they serve has skyrocketed.

For this reason, parking space can be at a maddening premium. That lady was probably under instructions from the big litigator mahouts in her firm to "Boot the bastadrzzss." So, please don't hate Ms. Molly Leroy Biederstein, for she is but a cog in her lawyerly machine.

Ahhhh, but you can also bet that, even as we speak, those very same titans of the law are having a little talk with Ms. Molly, essssplainin' that booting a police cruiser was NOT in their master plan.

Just saying. :D
 

Xylitol

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Originally posted by: Steve
Originally posted by: daniel1113
He chose to park his car in a private lot for no reason.

You don't know that.

i'm pretty damn sure that the news article would have included something about an emergency call if the cop actually had one.
regardless, the cop is a complete moron for parking there
 

smitbret

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Can't we all just agree that the huge majority of cops are in their line of work because they enjoy the knowledge that they are free to abuse the laws as much as they like. I know many cops (or should I say "used to know"). Most of them are substandard citizens with little or no regard for civility or operate recklessly outside of the law, abusing their power as it suits them. Two or three of my best friends from high school became police officers and I've heard too many of their stories. These guys brag about how they abuse the laws and abuse the citizenry, they are proud of it and laugh about it to each other.

If the police are free to operate in accordance with the law as they see fit, then the punishments should be more severe than for the average citizen. Speeding ticket for average Joe, $75. Speeding ticket for policeman, $250. B&E for average Joe, 30 days and 3 years probation. B&E for Policeman, 1 year 5 years probation. I don't get why this isn't the case, already.

Furthermore, what makes an emergency response vehicle anymore important than my own personal vehicle. If my wife's going in to labor and I come out to my car and see that it has been booted because I parked illegally, how is that any different. If the cop gets an emergency call, let him commandeer the nearest unbooted car. Most likely he won't have a problem with that abuse of power either, in fact, he'll probably get aroused by it.
 

finite automaton

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If your house was being robbed and you called the police, you'd be fucking pissed if the robber shot your wife because the officer who got the call had his car booted.

 

smitbret

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Originally posted by: finite automaton
If your house was being robbed and you called the police, you'd be fucking pissed if the robber shot your wife because the officer who got the call had his car booted.

I'd also be pissed if the cop was parked in a handicapped spot so my grandmother (with a bad hip) had to park all the way across the parking lot and then fell down and broke a hip while trying to get to the building because some jackass policeman thinks he's above the law. That's the far more likely scenario.
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: Andrew111
Did any of you actually read the entire article?

White said Manypenny put the boot on cars in the past, including a Northern Regional Jail van transporting prisoners to court. The sheriff said after that incident, he went to commissioners requesting a survey be done to determine if the parking spaces are public or privately owned by the law firm.

So it isn't even clear that the parking space was even the private property of that law firm. And if a survey reveals that the parking space is public property that women has been harassing emergency vehicles who had a perfect right to park in a public parking space and should receive a harsh punishment for impeding their duties.

Even if a survey reveals the spot to be private property, she has no right no boot an emergency vehicle. If she found a police car repeatedly parking in their private parking she should call the police station and file a complaint......which would be the logical thing to do instead of immediately booting an emergency vehicle and therefore eliminating the officer's ability to respond to life threatening situations.

While I do not disagree with your assessment, do you really believe that complaining to a superior at the police station is going to change anything? I'd like to be proven wrong, but I think we all know that in most cases, nothing will happen.

You are wrong on so many levels.

They'll say "We have done an investigation and have determined that the officer was in the wrong. He has been placed on a 1 week paid vacat....i mean suspension."
 

smitbret

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And why is it that this stuff usually only happens with cops? You don't see ambulances and firetrucks parking illegally, running red lights and speeding to get home.
 

ric1287

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: NSFWquick! Give yourself a raise!


I still don't understand ATOT's hatred of cops. While the cop MAY have been in the wrong, the lady went way beyond what was necessary.

to many do hate cops. just as there are some that forgive a cop no matter what they do.


I do not love them or hate them. they have a hard job and dangerous job. BUT i do not think they should be above the law or not called out when one does something stupid.

The problem is roughly 98% of the time, the people who bash the cops:
A: don't have all the facts of what happened
B: are biased way before anything happened
C: don't understand anything about what cops do other than "hur hur they are fat and eat donuts"

I honestly can't think of any other job where more stupid, ignorant people pass judgment off as if they actually know what is going on.
 

ric1287

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Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: Andrew111
Did any of you actually read the entire article?

White said Manypenny put the boot on cars in the past, including a Northern Regional Jail van transporting prisoners to court. The sheriff said after that incident, he went to commissioners requesting a survey be done to determine if the parking spaces are public or privately owned by the law firm.

So it isn't even clear that the parking space was even the private property of that law firm. And if a survey reveals that the parking space is public property that women has been harassing emergency vehicles who had a perfect right to park in a public parking space and should receive a harsh punishment for impeding their duties.

Even if a survey reveals the spot to be private property, she has no right no boot an emergency vehicle. If she found a police car repeatedly parking in their private parking she should call the police station and file a complaint......which would be the logical thing to do instead of immediately booting an emergency vehicle and therefore eliminating the officer's ability to respond to life threatening situations.

While I do not disagree with your assessment, do you really believe that complaining to a superior at the police station is going to change anything? I'd like to be proven wrong, but I think we all know that in most cases, nothing will happen.

Then you prove right there that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and should just stop.
 

finite automaton

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Originally posted by: smitbret
Originally posted by: finite automaton
If your house was being robbed and you called the police, you'd be fucking pissed if the robber shot your wife because the officer who got the call had his car booted.

I'd also be pissed if the cop was parked in a handicapped spot so my grandmother (with a bad hip) had to park all the way across the parking lot and then fell down and broke a hip while trying to get to the building because some jackass policeman thinks he's above the law. That's the far more likely scenario.

What would you do in this situation? Boot the cop car so it takes even longer to remove it from the spot?

No. Stay on the same page or GTFO.
 

smitbret

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Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: NSFWquick! Give yourself a raise!


I still don't understand ATOT's hatred of cops. While the cop MAY have been in the wrong, the lady went way beyond what was necessary.

to many do hate cops. just as there are some that forgive a cop no matter what they do.


I do not love them or hate them. they have a hard job and dangerous job. BUT i do not think they should be above the law or not called out when one does something stupid.

The problem is roughly 98% of the time, the people who bash the cops:
A: don't have all the facts of what happened
B: are biased way before anything happened
C: don't understand anything about what cops do other than "hur hur they are fat and eat donuts"

I honestly can't think of any other job where more stupid, ignorant people pass judgment off as if they actually know what is going on.

Due to their jobs, Police should be held to a higher standard than the general public. There is little wiggle room for this. No one goes to a personal trainer that weighs 420 lbs., neither should I have to put up with ANY policeman that thinks the law doesn't apply to him/her. Unfortunately, I am not able to fire a crooked policeman like I could an out of shape trainer.
 

marincounty

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I like the way this woman thinks. Sure it was probably illegal, but it surely made a point.
That cop is now probably the butt of jokes by other cops, and I sincerely believe he will never park there again.

Arresting the woman for this is a little over the top, I suspect more backlash on the police department for this.

In a town I used to live in, local cops would park in the passenger loading zone in front of a coffee shop. This pissed me off because by breaking the law they are sworn to uphold, it sets a bad example for everyone else. I was thinking about leaving the cops a note on their car, explaining my objections to their parking there, when someone told me that leaving anything on a police car is a crime. WTF?, I can't leave a note on a cop car?

Cops are above the law, and they know it. This lady knocking them down a peg is just fine in my book. And I don't believe she hindered anyone in their performance of their duties, the car was parked.
 

smitbret

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Originally posted by: finite automaton
Originally posted by: smitbret
Originally posted by: finite automaton
If your house was being robbed and you called the police, you'd be fucking pissed if the robber shot your wife because the officer who got the call had his car booted.

I'd also be pissed if the cop was parked in a handicapped spot so my grandmother (with a bad hip) had to park all the way across the parking lot and then fell down and broke a hip while trying to get to the building because some jackass policeman thinks he's above the law. That's the far more likely scenario.

What would you do in this situation? Boot the cop car so it takes even longer to remove it from the spot?

No. Stay on the same page or GTFO.

No, I'd tow the piece of shit. You wanna make sure that the offending officer gets an appropriate punishment, take away his car and then watch him try to talk his way out of it to his CO. Actually, that's not true, the CO would probably just go down to the impound lot and bully someone into letting the car go.
 

silverpig

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This is what happens when you take a dick and a dipshit and allow them to interact. Something smells funny and someone's gonna have a sore ass in the morning.
 

smitbret

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Originally posted by: silverpig
This is what happens when you take a dick and a dipshit and allow them to interact. Something smells funny and someone's gonna have a sore ass in the morning.

LMAO