Park your cop car in a private lot?

[God Mode]

People easily bitch but no one really takes the time to document police misconduct. If I cared enough, I could easily drive or walk around with a video camera and record this kind of stuff all day. I'm positive footage would be several hours long per day. (5 boroughs of NY) In the end, I feel that it isn't worth my time. Maybe someone with a chip on their shoulder.

 

[Itchrelief]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: waggy
wha boot for the first offense? fuck that thats wrong.

BUT depends on why the cop was there and IF it is private property. and it sounds as if the cop parked there to go to the court house. Sorry if its private property then don't fucking park there. I don't give a shit if you are a cop or not. You do not have the right to park there.

I don't think anybody is disputing that (well, except some people assuming that I am, simply because of my career choice).

Originally posted by: nobody554
Better. It just upsets me when cops seem to do whatever they please because they are cops. On my commute to work, I see more cops speeding than us common folk and absolutely nothing is done about it.

I write more speed warnings to "you common folk" than you would probably believe.

Let's take a simple, absurd situation. You complain about seeing an officer speeding in a cruiser. The very next day, you get stopped and issued a warning for speed. You get pissed off. What you didn't know is the cruiser was on the way to a call meriting a prompt response but not quite a code response (yes, they exist).

How is that fair? 😉

Thing with cops is, that's their standard boilerplate response to any misdeed. "You plebes don't know what super-official-top-secret mission we were on at the moment. Piss off."

 

[HannibalX]

There simply isn't enough information to form a logical conclusion either way. We need more information.

1.) How many times had the LEO parked in the private/marked lot? Did the employee document each time?
2.) How long was the LEO parked in the lot? 20 minutes? 4 hours? Overnight?
3.) Was there any ultimatum giving to the LEO that day or on days prior? "This is a private lot, unless you have business here remove your car ASAP."

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: iFX
There simply isn't enough information to form a logical conclusion either way. We need more information.

1.) How many times had the LEO parked in the private/marked lot? Did the employee document each time?
2.) How long was the LEO parked in the lot? 20 minutes? 4 hours? Overnight?
3.) Was there any ultimatum giving to the LEO that day or on days prior? "This is a private lot, unless you have business here remove your car ASAP."

NONE of those matter.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: Itchrelief

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: waggy
wha boot for the first offense? fuck that thats wrong.

BUT depends on why the cop was there and IF it is private property. and it sounds as if the cop parked there to go to the court house. Sorry if its private property then don't fucking park there. I don't give a shit if you are a cop or not. You do not have the right to park there.

I don't think anybody is disputing that (well, except some people assuming that I am, simply because of my career choice).

Originally posted by: nobody554
Better. It just upsets me when cops seem to do whatever they please because they are cops. On my commute to work, I see more cops speeding than us common folk and absolutely nothing is done about it.

I write more speed warnings to "you common folk" than you would probably believe.

Let's take a simple, absurd situation. You complain about seeing an officer speeding in a cruiser. The very next day, you get stopped and issued a warning for speed. You get pissed off. What you didn't know is the cruiser was on the way to a call meriting a prompt response but not quite a code response (yes, they exist).

How is that fair? 😉

Thing with cops is, that's their standard boilerplate response to any misdeed. "You plebes don't know what super-official-top-secret mission we were on at the moment. Piss off."

You don't.

😀

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: iFX
There simply isn't enough information to form a logical conclusion either way. We need more information.

1.) How many times had the LEO parked in the private/marked lot? Did the employee document each time?
2.) How long was the LEO parked in the lot? 20 minutes? 4 hours? Overnight?
3.) Was there any ultimatum giving to the LEO that day or on days prior? "This is a private lot, unless you have business here remove your car ASAP."

NONE of those matter.

Considering the vehicle was booted, they're perfectly reasonable questions to ask.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: Itchrelief

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: waggy
wha boot for the first offense? fuck that thats wrong.

BUT depends on why the cop was there and IF it is private property. and it sounds as if the cop parked there to go to the court house. Sorry if its private property then don't fucking park there. I don't give a shit if you are a cop or not. You do not have the right to park there.

I don't think anybody is disputing that (well, except some people assuming that I am, simply because of my career choice).

Originally posted by: nobody554
Better. It just upsets me when cops seem to do whatever they please because they are cops. On my commute to work, I see more cops speeding than us common folk and absolutely nothing is done about it.

I write more speed warnings to "you common folk" than you would probably believe.

Let's take a simple, absurd situation. You complain about seeing an officer speeding in a cruiser. The very next day, you get stopped and issued a warning for speed. You get pissed off. What you didn't know is the cruiser was on the way to a call meriting a prompt response but not quite a code response (yes, they exist).

How is that fair? 😉

Thing with cops is, that's their standard boilerplate response to any misdeed. "You plebes don't know what super-official-top-secret mission we were on at the moment. Piss off."

You don't.

😀

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: iFX
There simply isn't enough information to form a logical conclusion either way. We need more information.

1.) How many times had the LEO parked in the private/marked lot? Did the employee document each time?
2.) How long was the LEO parked in the lot? 20 minutes? 4 hours? Overnight?
3.) Was there any ultimatum giving to the LEO that day or on days prior? "This is a private lot, unless you have business here remove your car ASAP."

NONE of those matter.

Considering the vehicle was booted, they're perfectly reasonable questions to ask.

i agree the booting was bullshit. she should have had it towed (like any towing place is going to tow it).

but on private property you can give permission one day and revoke any time you want.

teh cop was not there on police business conserining the property. he just didnt want to find a parking space.

 

[BoomerD]

We're missing a few details.
1) Is the lot 100% owned by the law firm, or do they have an office/offices in a building?

2) the MOST the cop would be guilty of is simple trespass, but if the lot has public access, then not even that...it'd be a civil matter, not a criminal matter.

3) How much do you want to bet that EVERYTHING this dumb broad does gets...extra scrutiny? It wouldn't surprise me to see her start getting tickets for 56 in a 55 from now on...after all, she would be exceeding the posted limit...or tickets for red light violations that might have otherwise been ignored, (in the intersection when the light changes is a violation in some places...you have to be 100% out of the intersection before the light turns red)..or any of a bazillion things that are technically violations of the law...that get ignored for multiple reasons.

NEVER start a silly pissing match with your local cops...they have ways of getting even in the end...legally.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: waggy
i agree the booting was bullshit. she should have had it towed (like any towing place is going to tow it).

but on private property you can give permission one day and revoke any time you want.

teh cop was not there on police business conserining the property. he just didnt want to find a parking space.

Uh, no.

Dude, you don't get it.

😕

 

[nobody554]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: Itchrelief

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: nobody554
Better. It just upsets me when cops seem to do whatever they please because they are cops. On my commute to work, I see more cops speeding than us common folk and absolutely nothing is done about it.

I write more speed warnings to "you common folk" than you would probably believe.

Let's take a simple, absurd situation. You complain about seeing an officer speeding in a cruiser. The very next day, you get stopped and issued a warning for speed. You get pissed off. What you didn't know is the cruiser was on the way to a call meriting a prompt response but not quite a code response (yes, they exist).

How is that fair? 😉

Thing with cops is, that's their standard boilerplate response to any misdeed. "You plebes don't know what super-official-top-secret mission we were on at the moment. Piss off."

You don't.

😀

Which is the problem. Ok, so the cruiser was on the way to some crap that is super secret, but not quite obvious and crap something rather. I still don't think cops should be allowed to speed unless they've received the call and you got the lights going / siren flashing / whatever.

If it's not apparent that you're responding to a call, you should continue to follow the law. Simple enough.

EDIT: I suck with editing quote tags... :-(

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: waggy
i agree the booting was bullshit. she should have had it towed (like any towing place is going to tow it).

but on private property you can give permission one day and revoke any time you want.

teh cop was not there on police business conserining the property. he just didnt want to find a parking space.

Uh, no.

Dude, you don't get it.

😕

what am i not getting? that its private property? they have a sign saying Parking ONLY if they are useing the lawfirm? That the cop was a idiot and parked there anyway?

she was a idiot for doing it so fast. but the cop was the idiot that parked on private property knowing he shouldnt

 

[Baked]

The article never said why the cop car was parked there.

I hope the dispatch hangs up on the stupid bitch when she calls in for a home invasion.

Dear stupid bitch, you ain't the law, you can't put boots on people's car!

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: waggy
i agree the booting was bullshit. she should have had it towed (like any towing place is going to tow it).

but on private property you can give permission one day and revoke any time you want.

teh cop was not there on police business conserining the property. he just didnt want to find a parking space.

Uh, no.

Dude, you don't get it.

😕

what am i not getting? that its private property? they have a sign saying Parking ONLY if they are useing the lawfirm? That the cop was a idiot and parked there anyway?

she was a idiot for doing it so fast. but the cop was the idiot that parked on private property knowing he shouldnt

DON'T BOOT AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE. Cruiser, fire vehicle, ambulance, it doesn't matter. She was an idiot for doing it at all.

Originally posted by: nobody554
Which is the problem. Ok, so the cruiser was on the way to some crap that is super secret, but not quite obvious and crap something rather. I still don't think cops should be allowed to speed unless they've received the call and you got the lights going / siren flashing / whatever.

If it's not apparent that you're responding to a call, you should continue to follow the law. Simple enough.

Different agencies will have different policies regarding code responses..but examples-

I don't always want to broadcast my presence. It's often safer (with a higher chance of catching a bad guy) if they don't know we're coming. You have no way of knowing whether or not they're responding to a call anyway.

If we bluelight somewhere and kill the lights prior to the immediate area (see the above stealth issue), you'll complain about misconduct because "we didn't want to wait for traffic."

If we bluelight an intersection to catch up with a vehicle we're going to stop, you'll complain about misconduct because "we didn't want to wait for the traffic light."

If we get a priority call canceled and cut lights/siren in your view, and then you don't see us go anywhere (because the call was canceled), you'll complain about misconduct because "we wanted to get through traffic and OBVIOUSLY didn't have anything going on, because we shut the emergency warning equipment off."

Am I wrong? 😀

 

[Jumpem]

Cops are not above the law.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: waggy
i agree the booting was bullshit. she should have had it towed (like any towing place is going to tow it).

but on private property you can give permission one day and revoke any time you want.

teh cop was not there on police business conserining the property. he just didnt want to find a parking space.

Uh, no.

Dude, you don't get it.

😕

what am i not getting? that its private property? they have a sign saying Parking ONLY if they are useing the lawfirm? That the cop was a idiot and parked there anyway?

she was a idiot for doing it so fast. but the cop was the idiot that parked on private property knowing he shouldnt

DON'T BOOT AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE. Cruiser, fire vehicle, ambulance, it doesn't matter. She was an idiot for doing it at all.

then don't park on private property.

really you can bitch out the lady (yes she is a idiot) but the cop shouldnt have parked on private property (not going to get into the issue if it is or not. seems the city don't know).

if you want to park on private property and not on a call then we should be able to tow it. why should you get away with stuff that a civie wont?

 

[ballmode]

majority of cops are lazy

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: waggy
i agree the booting was bullshit. she should have had it towed (like any towing place is going to tow it).

but on private property you can give permission one day and revoke any time you want.

teh cop was not there on police business conserining the property. he just didnt want to find a parking space.

Uh, no.

Dude, you don't get it.

😕

what am i not getting? that its private property? they have a sign saying Parking ONLY if they are useing the lawfirm? That the cop was a idiot and parked there anyway?

she was a idiot for doing it so fast. but the cop was the idiot that parked on private property knowing he shouldnt

DON'T BOOT AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE. Cruiser, fire vehicle, ambulance, it doesn't matter. She was an idiot for doing it at all.

then don't park on private property.

really you can bitch out the lady (yes she is a idiot) but the cop shouldnt have parked on private property (not going to get into the issue if it is or not. seems the city don't know).

if you want to park on private property and not on a call then we should be able to tow it. why should you get away with stuff that a civie wont?

Dude, are you seriously this dense? As I said, there are other ways to handle this. UNLAWFULLY BOOTING AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE IS NOT THE PROPER METHOD. Do you not realize that what she did was A CRIME? Unlawfully parking in someone's private parking space is a CIVIL MATTER.

Someone parked in the police parking space downtown the other day. Did it deserve to be booted? Nope, it sure didn't. Did it get booted? Nope, it sure didn't.

Originally posted by: ballmode
majority of cops are lazy

majority of people are stupid

Yay for generalizations.

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: iFX
There simply isn't enough information to form a logical conclusion either way. We need more information.

1.) How many times had the LEO parked in the private/marked lot? Did the employee document each time?
2.) How long was the LEO parked in the lot? 20 minutes? 4 hours? Overnight?
3.) Was there any ultimatum giving to the LEO that day or on days prior? "This is a private lot, unless you have business here remove your car ASAP."

NONE of those matter.

They matter in court you fucking idiot. The women needs to prove she had a reason to boot the car and that she has a record of why. She also needs to prove she went through other means of having the car removed first. Get a fucking clue dipshit.

 

[nobody554]

Originally posted by: JLee

Different agencies will have different policies regarding code responses..but examples-

I don't always want to broadcast my presence. It's often safer (with a higher chance of catching a bad guy) if they don't know we're coming. You have no way of knowing whether or not they're responding to a call anyway. AFAIK, a lot of the times, you do want to announce your presence. The few cases you don't I can understand this.

If we bluelight somewhere and kill the lights prior to the immediate area (see the above stealth issue), you'll complain about misconduct because "we didn't want to wait for traffic."Actually, no.

If we bluelight an intersection to catch up with a vehicle we're going to stop, you'll complain about misconduct because "we didn't want to wait for the traffic light."Again, no. Especially when you pull over that car.

If we get a priority call canceled and cut lights/siren in your view, and then you don't see us go anywhere (because the call was canceled), you'll complain about misconduct because "we wanted to get through traffic and OBVIOUSLY didn't have anything going on, because we shut the emergency warning equipment off."Again, no

Am I wrong? 😀

So, in my particular situation, yes, you're wrong. I can see where people could complain like this, but it's futile.

How do you make sure that you don't have cops abusing the system and breaking the law, claiming they were responding to a call?

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: Jumpem
Cops are not above the law.

In fantasy-land.

In the real world, there are varying degrees to which they are above the law.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: nobody554

Originally posted by: JLee

Different agencies will have different policies regarding code responses..but examples-

I don't always want to broadcast my presence. It's often safer (with a higher chance of catching a bad guy) if they don't know we're coming. You have no way of knowing whether or not they're responding to a call anyway. AFAIK, a lot of the times, you do want to announce your presence. The few cases you don't I can understand this.

If we bluelight somewhere and kill the lights prior to the immediate area (see the above stealth issue), you'll complain about misconduct because "we didn't want to wait for traffic."Actually, no.

If we bluelight an intersection to catch up with a vehicle we're going to stop, you'll complain about misconduct because "we didn't want to wait for the traffic light."Again, no. Especially when you pull over that car.

If we get a priority call canceled and cut lights/siren in your view, and then you don't see us go anywhere (because the call was canceled), you'll complain about misconduct because "we wanted to get through traffic and OBVIOUSLY didn't have anything going on, because we shut the emergency warning equipment off."Again, no

Am I wrong? 😀

So, in my particular situation, yes, you're wrong. I can see where people could complain like this, but it's futile.

How do you make sure that you don't have cops abusing the system and breaking the law, claiming they were responding to a call?

We don't get complaints. If we did, it's not my problem to fix..that's what admin & supervisors do.

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: Jumpem
Cops are not above the law.

In fantasy-land.

In the real world, there are varying degrees to which they are above the law.

Or varying degrees to which the law has exceptions, particularly in regard to traffic regulations and use of force.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: JLee

Different agencies will have different policies regarding code responses..but examples-

I don't always want to broadcast my presence. It's often safer (with a higher chance of catching a bad guy) if they don't know we're coming. You have no way of knowing whether or not they're responding to a call anyway.

If we bluelight somewhere and kill the lights prior to the immediate area (see the above stealth issue), you'll complain about misconduct because "we didn't want to wait for traffic."

If we bluelight an intersection to catch up with a vehicle we're going to stop, you'll complain about misconduct because "we didn't want to wait for the traffic light."

If we get a priority call canceled and cut lights/siren in your view, and then you don't see us go anywhere (because the call was canceled), you'll complain about misconduct because "we wanted to get through traffic and OBVIOUSLY didn't have anything going on, because we shut the emergency warning equipment off."

Am I wrong? 😀

That's BS, and you know it is. The cops aren't going to any call, they're driving fast because they want to, and they feel they're above the law. They're the same asshats that flip on their lights so they can get into traffic, then shut them down and mosey on up the road. You can make all the arguments you want, but we both know they aren't true ;^)

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: JLee

Different agencies will have different policies regarding code responses..but examples-

I don't always want to broadcast my presence. It's often safer (with a higher chance of catching a bad guy) if they don't know we're coming. You have no way of knowing whether or not they're responding to a call anyway.

If we bluelight somewhere and kill the lights prior to the immediate area (see the above stealth issue), you'll complain about misconduct because "we didn't want to wait for traffic."

If we bluelight an intersection to catch up with a vehicle we're going to stop, you'll complain about misconduct because "we didn't want to wait for the traffic light."

If we get a priority call canceled and cut lights/siren in your view, and then you don't see us go anywhere (because the call was canceled), you'll complain about misconduct because "we wanted to get through traffic and OBVIOUSLY didn't have anything going on, because we shut the emergency warning equipment off."

Am I wrong? 😀

That's BS, and you know it is. The cops aren't going to any call, they're driving fast because they want to, and they feel they're above the law. They're the same asshats that flip on their lights so they can get into traffic, then shut them down and mosey on up the road. You can make all the arguments you want, but we both know they aren't true ;^)

I guess I must've been imagining things, then. Not that I've ever, y'know, done any of those or anything...

😕

I'm hoping my sarcasm meter needs calibration.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: waggy
i agree the booting was bullshit.

DON'T BOOT AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE. Cruiser, fire vehicle, ambulance, it doesn't matter. She was an idiot for doing it at all.

I don't see where waggy disagreed with you on booting the vehicle. Did I miss something?

 

[waggy]

wow messed up quoting!

 

[lxskllr]

Save it dude. I didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday :^S

Super secret missions make up about .05% of the reasons cops speed without having lights on. When you're going 80 in a 65, you're not in a hurry to get anywhere. That gets me a ticket, and it gets the cop home faster.