Parents transitioning their 3 year old boy

[lotus503]

I don't care what she says. Again, anybody that says it's a good idea to put their boy in a dress at 3 and change their name and treat them like a girl, is an idiot. You can huff and puff all you want, call me names, criticize me, and twist my words, but it won't change my stance. There's plenty of idiots with masters degrees. I know quite a few.

So what else you got? I'm not the smartest guy in the room, nor do I claim to be, and I openly, continually acknowledge my own ignorance and faults, but screw me for following my conscience, right?

Again with the reading comprehension, neither my wife nor I said anything was a good or bad idea. I brought data to the conversation, data that contradicts the idea that a 3 year old child doesn't know any better and they are just playing around.

my contention remains as it has always been the best choice of what to do comes from the parents who have the information to make an informed decision.


"screw me for following my conscience, right?" No screw you for labeling these parents and their decision as abuse with your sanctimonious drivel.

 

[ivwshane]

I don't care what she says. Again, anybody that says it's a good idea to put their boy in a dress at 3 and change their name and treat them like a girl, is an idiot. You can huff and puff all you want, call me names, criticize me, and twist my words, but it won't change my stance. There's plenty of idiots with masters degrees. I know quite a few.

So what else you got? I'm not the smartest guy in the room, nor do I claim to be, and I openly, continually acknowledge my own ignorance and faults, but screw me for following my conscience, right?

As of right now you are the biggest fucking idiot in this thread and you certainly haven't acknowledged it.

You've done a masterful job of trolling though! Even now, I continue to get cought up in your blatant display of hypocrisy and what can only be described as projecting.

We get it, you think what these parents are doing is wrong. That's your opinion and there's nothing wrong with that. Where you go full retard is when you start calling other opinions wrong with only your gut feeling as the soul reason for them being wrong.


Happy trolling!

 

[TechBoyJK]

Again with the reading comprehension, neither my wife nor I said anything was a good or bad idea. I brought data to the conversation, data that contradicts the idea that a 3 year old child doesn't know any better and they are just playing around.

my contention remains as it has always been the best choice of what to do comes from the parents who have the information to make an informed decision.


"screw me for following my conscience, right?" No screw you for labeling these parents and their decision as abuse with your sanctimonious drivel.

Well then I stand corrected in regards to the information you stated about your wife. You're right, you didn't say it was right/wrong.

But I still stand by my position that this is far too young of an age to be taking these steps. I understand, nor challenge, the notion that children are becoming aware of gender issues at a young age. It's the response by the parents that I take issues with. 3 years old is far too young, at least in my opinion, to be pushing a child in the direction these parents are.

 

[TechBoyJK]

As of right now you are the biggest fucking idiot in this thread and you certainly haven't acknowledged it.

You've done a masterful job of trolling though! Even now, I continue to get cought up in your blatant display of hypocrisy and what can only be described as projecting.

We get it, you think what these parents are doing is wrong. That's your opinion and there's nothing wrong with that. Where you go full retard is when you start calling other opinions wrong with only your gut feeling as the soul reason for them being wrong.


Happy trolling!

You're hilarious.

 

[lotus503]

Well then I stand corrected in regards to the information you stated about your wife. You're right, you didn't say it was right/wrong.

But I still stand by my position that this is far too young of an age to be taking these steps. I understand, nor challenge, the notion that children are becoming aware of gender issues at a young age. It's the response by the parents that I take issues with. 3 years old is far too young, at least in my opinion, to be pushing a child in the direction these parents are.

Thanks for owning the mistake.

You have every right to have an opinion on the issue.

 

[nickqt]

I don't care what she says. Again, anybody that says it's a good idea to put their boy in a dress at 3 and change their name and treat them like a girl, is an idiot. You can huff and puff all you want, call me names, criticize me, and twist my words, but it won't change my stance. There's plenty of idiots with masters degrees. I know quite a few.

So what else you got? I'm not the smartest guy in the room, nor do I claim to be, and I openly, continually acknowledge my own ignorance and faults, but screw me for following my conscience, right?

Are the parents "put[ing] their boy in a dress", or is the kid getting into the dress by his/herself?

That you continually say everyone else is wrong and you are right, because, well, you just are, isn't a reasoned argument, it's an opinion that is valid to you and people who agree with your opinion.

Are these parents forcing this kid to say it wants to be a girl? Or does the kid say she wants to be a girl?

Are these parents going to prevent the kid from changing her mind later, or do you think they'll let her change her mind if she so desires, since they've already left it up to her.

You can huff and puff about how everyone who believes differently than you is an idiot, but it doesn't change the fact that you aren't there, whereas the kid and parents are.

 

[Retro Rob]

When you summarily and almost hysterically reject one poster's shared info that his wife, with a Masters in the field, reports that the scientific consensus is that a child's awareness of gender identity begins at 2 or 3, based only on your feelings on the matter, you present exactly as one of those "delusional idiots trying to justify their ignorant theories."

That you don't see that is either hilarious or sad, take your pick.

Its sad that you site "scientific consensus" when you're cornered. Its a tried and true debating tactic when you wish to stop counter arguments and stifle critical thinking.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Its sad that you site "scientific consensus" when you're cornered. Its a tried and true debating tactic when you wish to stop counter arguments and stifle critical thinking.

Yep. He dipped into a desperate appeal to authority while lobbing personal insults. He likely just needs a beer.

 

[Retro Rob]

Yep. He dipped into a desperate appeal to authority while lobbing personal insults. He likely just needs a beer.

What makes it so bad, its a lazy appeal to authority, and makes people think the issue is settled.

In fact, that's the very OPPOSITE of science. Science is the domain of parroting drones who would rather not have their minds changed nowadays.

 

[EduCat]

Are these parents going to prevent the kid from changing her mind later, or do you think they'll let her change her mind if she so desires, since they've already left it up to her.

You can huff and puff about how everyone who believes differently than you is an idiot, but it doesn't change the fact that you aren't there, whereas the kid and parents are.

So let me get this straight. You're cool with the kid being Jack on say, Monday - Wednesday - and Friday, but playing Jackie on Tuesday Thurs And Saturday? If he ends up 'going back' then these parents have already failed their child so much.

Will those of you that support this willingly let your kids drink and do drugs so they can 'discovery their identity?' Why not give the kid a j or hit of acid, really open the mind. lol this thread is filled with so much fail it's beginning to smell. Yikes! LOL just click on the youtube video and look at the votes, society thinks the parents are idiots too. :thumbsup:

 

[Mai72]

You people need to travel to Thailand. Sex change is normal there.

The men that do it lead normal healthy lives. I believe it's as many as 3 out of every 10 men go thru the transformation process. I know a lot of this has to do with their buddhist upbringing.

I met a pharmacist last week and I told him that I had been to Thailand. He told me that his son transformed into a woman, and that they were at one time thinking about flying to Thailand for treatment. His daughter is doing amazing well, and the family supports the son's choice to be a woman. This pharmacist is also Jewish, so I can just imagine his shock when he first learned about his son's preference to be a woman.

 

[nickqt]

So let me get this straight. You're cool with the kid being Jack on say, Monday - Wednesday - and Friday, but playing Jackie on Tuesday Thurs And Saturday? If he ends up 'going back' then these parents have already failed their child so much.

Will those of you that support this willingly let your kids drink and do drugs so they can 'discovery their identity?' Why not give the kid a j or hit of acid, really open the mind. lol this thread is filled with so much fail it's beginning to smell. Yikes! LOL just click on the youtube video and look at the votes, society thinks the parents are idiots too. :thumbsup:

Your attempt at logic is filled with fail.

The parents aren't forcing the kid to be a boy or a girl, they are giving it the option to choose because the kid said it didn't want to be a boy.

If the kid goes back to being a boy, then how have the parents failed? Allowing a boy to wear a dress isn't even close to the utter idiocy you just vomited onto your keyboard and onto my screen about doing acid or drilling a hole into their spine or whatever idiotic nonsense you just tried to compare what the parents actually did in reality, and the things you made up out of thin air.

And yes, let's use youtube like/dislikes as a basis for parenting.

Fail more.

 

[EduCat]

Your attempt at logic is filled with fail.

The parents aren't forcing the kid to be a boy or a girl, they are giving it the option to choose because the kid said it didn't want to be a boy.

If the kid goes back to being a boy, then how have the parents failed? Allowing a boy to wear a dress isn't even close to the utter idiocy you just vomited onto your keyboard and onto my screen about doing acid or drilling a hole into their spine or whatever idiotic nonsense you just tried to compare what the parents actually did in reality, and the things you made up out of thin air.

And yes, let's use youtube like/dislikes as a basis for parenting.

Fail more.

lol, dumbass. How have they failed? You mean like losing all those developmental years as a kid? It is so much more that just letting the kid wear a dress. The YT ratings speak volumes.

 

[ivwshane]

The dumb just keeping getting dumber!

 

[EduCat]

The dumb just keeping getting dumber!

You've got nothing to say so just stop trolling.

 

[ivwshane]

You've got nothing to say so just stop trolling.

My post contained just as much content as yours

 

[LegendKiller]

When you summarily and almost hysterically reject one poster's shared info that his wife, with a Masters in the field, reports that the scientific consensus is that a child's awareness of gender identity begins at 2 or 3, based only on your feelings on the matter, you present exactly as one of those "delusional idiots trying to justify their ignorant theories."

That you don't see that is either hilarious or sad, take your pick.

Yeah, like her opinion carries any more weight than anybody else's who has advanced degrees, at least that's what I have been told about mine here. Most here are more than ready to dismiss advanced degree opinions.

But while we're at advanced degree opinions of people we DO know about (unlike those purported advanced ones we can dismiss through anonymity), why don't we go back and reference the John's Hopkins psychiatrist whose empirical data shows that 70-80% of children spontaneously go back to their natural state?

So why should anybody be going full-hog into this "transformation" when the vast majority of them turn out to be just as they they were meant to be. Then 40% of the remaining kill themselves.

But let's just ignore real data.

 

[nickqt]

lol, dumbass. How have they failed? You mean like losing all those developmental years as a kid? It is so much more that just letting the kid wear a dress. The YT ratings speak volumes.

lol, dumbass. How have they lost all those developmental years as a kid? It is so much more than just forcing a kid to wear pants. The YT ratings are absolutely irrelevant.

 

[MongGrel]

You're hilarious.

This thing is still running ?

The whole thread needed this from the beginning in general.

 

[cubby1223]

lol, dumbass. How have they lost all those developmental years as a kid? It is so much more than just forcing a kid to wear pants. The YT ratings are absolutely irrelevant.

Uhh, whether you choose to admit it or not, public opinion polls are relevant to the situation.

Just answer this one question - what makes growing up difficult for a child believing he is of another gender?

There's your answer, fishbulb.

 

[ivwshane]

Uhh, whether you choose to admit it or not, public opinion polls are relevant to the situation.

Just answer this one question - what makes growing up difficult for a child believing he is of another gender?

There's your answer, fishbulb.

The answer is; the parents. Parents have a huge impact on children, either negative or positive and there isn't a single thing that's more important.

 

[nickqt]

Uhh, whether you choose to admit it or not, public opinion polls are relevant to the situation.

Just answer this one question - what makes growing up difficult for a child believing he is of another gender?

There's your answer, fishbulb.

What makes growing up difficult for a child believing she is of another gender?

Probably believing that you're a girl and yet being treated like a boy. If it's just a phase, she goes back to a he of his own volition. If it isn't a phase, she is treated the way she feels she should be treated all along. There is no forcing being done. No one is lying to this kid. The kid made the decision. It isn't trapped in that decision forever.

Are her parents forcing him to believe that he is a girl? No? He made the choice? Then he can just as easily choose to go back to being a boy if he eventually believes that he is a boy. If the kid isn't making it up at all, then treat her like the girl she is. If he is making it up, then no harm no foul, because he's just a really good prankster who clearly knows better.

But hey. You aren't there as the kid's parent. And you aren't the kid.

Doesn't matter.

Let's raise children based on youtube comments and up/downvoting!

Fishbulb.

 

[Moonbeam]

What makes growing up difficult for a child believing she is of another gender?

Probably believing that you're a girl and yet being treated like a boy. If it's just a phase, she goes back to a he of his own volition. If it isn't a phase, she is treated the way she feels she should be treated all along. There is no forcing being done. No one is lying to this kid. The kid made the decision. It isn't trapped in that decision forever.

Are her parents forcing him to believe that he is a girl? No? He made the choice? Then he can just as easily choose to go back to being a boy if he eventually believes that he is a boy. If the kid isn't making it up at all, then treat her like the girl she is. If he is making it up, then no harm no foul, because he's just a really good prankster who clearly knows better.

But hey. You aren't there as the kid's parent. And you aren't the kid.

Doesn't matter.

Let's raise children based on youtube comments and up/downvoting!

Fishbulb.

I find your posts quite impressive. I know that doesn't mean anything but it makes me happy when I read them. I know that doesn't mean anything either but I'm glad anyway.

 

[nickqt]

I find your posts quite impressive. I know that doesn't mean anything but it makes me happy when I read them. I know that doesn't mean anything either but I'm glad anyway.

Ah, shucks. Thanks.

You're right though. It doesn't matter.

https://youtu.be/ER6uv2xtuCg

 

[MongGrel]

I just figured it was a troll thread from the start.

Anyone publicly trying to force sexual orientation on a 3 year old should be investigated I'd think.