SagaLore
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http://news.yahoo.com/photo/060427/phot...Ir0F;_ylu=X3oDMTA3bGk2OHYzBHNlYwN0bXA-
He looks like he has hiv.
He looks like he has hiv.
Zenmervolt
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The problem is not that the parents want to shelter the children, the issue is that the school presents that lifestyle as an acceptable alternative. Now whether one agrees with the parents' position or not, the parents clearly have a right to choose not to have their children exposed to propaganda that is opposed to the parents' viewpoints. There are many people who believe that such relationships should not be portrayed as positive and whether or not one agrees with them, the fact remains that the parents should have been notified before the book was read to the class.
ZV
Sorry, your gay militant act won't fly and you're dead wrong to boot. You are comparing children who grow up in a gay household with children who have never been exposed to that at all. Of course the children in the gay household think it is normal; they been living that experience so why wouldn't they think it is normal. On the other hand, children do get confused when something they experience is contrary to what they have come to believe. If the child has been exposed to nothing but opposite sex relationships, then a same sex relationship will be confusing.
IHateMyJob2004
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Originally posted by: SagaLore
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/060427/phot...Ir0F;_ylu=X3oDMTA3bGk2OHYzBHNlYwN0bXA-
He looks like he has hiv.
how so?
So, why not just turn your kids over to the state and let the state raise them? I mean, if you dont want to be able to draw your own moral lines on what is and is not acceptable, just let the state do it.
That is because homosexuality is an acceptable sexual orientation, and homosexual relationships are acceptable alternatives to heterosexual relationships (for those who are that way inclined).
No, I'd say they don't have that right, at all. Just as they don't have the right to decide that their kid won't be learning maths, or how to read, at school. Part of the school's job is to socialize the child. Given that same-sex marriages are fully legal in Massachucetts it is only appropriate that the school includes gay families when looking at the types of families that exist and make up the social fabric.
Fortunately such people are a dying breed.
Just as parents should be notified when the teacher reads a book that portrays black families in a flattering light..? Or portrays Hispanic families in a flattering light..? Lol. What nonsense.
Parents have the right to indoctrinate their child with a hatred or contempt of gay people, but it is unreasonable of them to expect the school to cooperate with them in this sick endeavour.
No, it isn't confusing to those children growing up with a Mummy and Daddy, provided they are given a clear message from adults. It's not that difficult. You just say "The two men love each other and so they decided to get married". Most kids that age are happy wnough with that explanation. There is no need for a discussion on sexual activities or what happens in the bedroom.
Children are usually a product of their environment. their parents are the biggest influence of their lives and that is usually where they ground their moral compass.
No, society has not. The courts have. Every single poll that was taken clearly shows that the majority of society does not want same sex marriage.
But I was trying to point out the hypocracy of your statement. Jailing people that you think are intolerant... well, it is intolerant in itself.
xanis
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Well said. JLGatsby, I'm not sure what you mean by "brainwashed". Children from gay familes are smart enough to notice that other children have one female and one male parent, instead of 2 of the same gender. They realize that their parents are different, and the children accept it. I've seen straight people who have come from gay familes and vice versa. No child is getting brainwashed. They know all about the situation and make peace with the fact and in turn make their own decisions about their sexuality.
Same-sex marriage isn't normal nor will it ever be. A male organism will never be able to fertilize another male organism no matter how many times it's tried. Being a homosexual is a conscious choice that is taken by the individual. No one is born gay/straight. Men naturally have attractions to the opposite sex as do women. Men fantasizing about other men is something that one does because one wants to, NOT because that's his natural orientation.
The state is more or less a stand-in for "the people" or the society you live in. Kids do need to be taught about the values of the society at large (the society outside of your household). Within your household, you may find it acceptable to treat gay people with contempt. However that is probably not going to fly outside in the "real world" (i.e., at work, at school, at university) and kids need to be taught this, for their own good, and also for the good of the people they will be living and working with.
You would be the first to complain if a child demonstrates poor socialisation by screaming and shouting in a public place such as a library or shoppiung center. Parents and schools have an obligation to the larger society to teach their children how to function and work and live harmoniously with other people. This includes teaching them basic social behaviors live saying please and thankyou, teaching them about appropriate behavior in public spaces, teaching them to be honest, work hard, etc. It also involves teaching them that our society is made up of different types of people.
Brainonska511
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Marriage in itself is not normal. Evolution wise, it is bad; it limits people's mates.
Also, when making statements like that, please provide evidence to support.
Our government was not set up to take away parental rights and tell parents how to raise their children.
and there is a big difference between telling children they need to learn manners and taking away a parents right to tell their children what is and is not acceptable. Screaming and shouting in public does not equate to all parents having to take a back seat to what they should believe as far as religion, sexuality and marriage. the analogies just dont gibe. it is mixing apples and pears.
Not to be rude or disrespectful, but the evidence is all around us. Marriage between two members of the opposite sex is as normal as normal can be. Since the beginning of time, men have married women in order to reproduce after their own kind. How can people say that gay marriage is normal when since the beginning, marriage has been the act of joining one man and one women in holy matrimony? How often/if at all have you heard of two males successfully fertilizing one another? That's exactly zero times.
I can not answer your other statement as I do not understand what you mean. Please expound.
And please do not take this as a personal flame of sorts. I have nothing against you or anyone else at all.
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