Parents sue school over same-sex fairy tale.

[Golgatha]

I think the material was probably fine in the context of what was being taught, and probably a good topic to bring up since the school was in Massachusetts. However, legal or not I would want to be informed ("Ash said the school was under no legal obligation to inform parents the book would be read") about what types of literature my kids were being exposed to, so I could engage my child in a discussion about what they took from such a story after the fact.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060427/us_nm/rights_gays_massachusetts_dc

Cliffs:
1) Teacher reads gay fairy tail to 7year olds without informing parents.
2) Parents say teacher broke law by not informing them about sex ed.
3) Lawsuit coming soon.

 

[Cooler]

Same-sex fairy tale is tame to some of stuff i read in Oedipus, The inferno, and hamlet.

 

[FoBoT]

link?

 

[TGS]

Originally posted by: Cooler
Same-sex fairy tale is tame to some of stuff i read in Oedipus, The inferno, and hamlet.

Next you'll be hearing about children having sex with each other, commiting murders, and then killing themselves! Won't someone think of the children? :|

Edit: Also I do believe the topic at hand may be above the childrens level at that age.

 

[imported_Trippin315]

What is their case?

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
link?

My bad...here you go.

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: Cooler
Same-sex fairy tale is tame to some of stuff i read in Oedipus, The inferno, and hamlet.

or the Bible, which ill just assume is where the parents suing get their morals from.

/someone was going to say it anyway

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: Cooler
Same-sex fairy tale is tame to some of stuff i read in Oedipus, The inferno, and hamlet.

I think those are a bit above a 2nd grade reading level .

 

[nakedfrog]

I'm pretty sure they're just trying for the shotgun approach by adding the bit about "sex education" to the suit.

 

[FoBoT]

i wonder if the teacher had a motive or just picked the book at random without really thinking

 

[BDawg]

Who cares. Same sex people exist. As long as there wasn't description of sexual acts, get over it.

It's like complaining that a mexican couple was the subject of the book.

 

[OdiN]

Hope they win.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: BDawg
Who cares. Same sex people exist. As long as there wasn't description of sexual acts, get over it.

It's like complaining that a mexican couple was the subject of the book.

uh, no it isn't. I would prefer if my schools left the sex stuff at home. I am more than capable of deciding when and how to teach my kids about same-sex relationships. The schools need to stay the f out of it. Also, at 7, I'm more interested in them learning how to read, write and do arithmetic. And you have to question of all the fairy tales out there, why did the teacher choose this one?

 

[shoRunner]

Originally posted by: BDawg
Who cares. Same sex people exist. As long as there wasn't description of sexual acts, get over it.

It's like complaining that a mexican couple was the subject of the book.

not even close...i'd be pissed if they were reading this stuff to my kids in school, it isn't the gov't job to tell children what they think is right.

oh and wrong forum..this is new therefore P&N is <----that way

 

[Cooler]

There is double standard if the gays in this book died(random act from god) parents would not care at all. It?s not about sex ed its about not wanting kids to be exposed to gay couples.

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: xSauronx

Originally posted by: Cooler
Same-sex fairy tale is tame to some of stuff i read in Oedipus, The inferno, and hamlet.

or the Bible, which ill just assume is where the parents suing get their morals from.

/someone was going to say it anyway

Where do you get your morals? The trash can?

Here's something I posted awhile back:

It really is sad, but our current media has become very anti-christian. Remember, they choose what stories to do. Nobody reports the crazy athiest descriminating against religious people. Many so-called christians are intolerant, but so are many non-religious people.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: BDawg
Who cares. Same sex people exist. As long as there wasn't description of sexual acts, get over it.

It's like complaining that a mexican couple was the subject of the book.

uh, no it isn't. I would prefer if my schools left the sex stuff at home. I am more than capable of deciding when and how to teach my kids about same-sex relationships. The schools need to stay the f out of it. Also, at 7, I'm more interested in them learning how to read, write and do arithmetic. And you have to question of all the fairy tales out there, why did the teacher choose this one?

Exactly. They showed pics from the book on CNN and it really is just propoganda for good or bad. I'm all for gay rights but something like this doesn't belong in a 2nd grade classroom (at least without all parents consent). Likewise, some fairy tale about how sally has 1 mom and 1 dad and that is the only right way doesn't belong either, for exactly the same reason.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: xSauronx

Originally posted by: Cooler
Same-sex fairy tale is tame to some of stuff i read in Oedipus, The inferno, and hamlet.

or the Bible, which ill just assume is where the parents suing get their morals from.

/someone was going to say it anyway

Cities like Sodom and Gamorah were completely destroyed, largely due to things like homosexuality. Don't imply that the Bible is full of homo-stories because it's not. The Bible is not graphic, but it does cover many topics that have graphic details.

 

[dawnbug]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: BDawg
Who cares. Same sex people exist. As long as there wasn't description of sexual acts, get over it.

It's like complaining that a mexican couple was the subject of the book.

uh, no it isn't. I would prefer if my schools left the sex stuff at home. I am more than capable of deciding when and how to teach my kids about same-sex relationships. The schools need to stay the f out of it. Also, at 7, I'm more interested in them learning how to read, write and do arithmetic. And you have to question of all the fairy tales out there, why did the teacher choose this one?

They were talking in class about different kids of marriages, and since they are in Massachusetts, I think it was an appropriate book for the topic.

The school probably was trying to create an environment in which all of the children, even those who may be adopted by same-sex parents, feel like their family was valid, and let the rest of the children know about the diversity that exists in the world.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: LadyBuggy

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: BDawg
Who cares. Same sex people exist. As long as there wasn't description of sexual acts, get over it.

It's like complaining that a mexican couple was the subject of the book.

uh, no it isn't. I would prefer if my schools left the sex stuff at home. I am more than capable of deciding when and how to teach my kids about same-sex relationships. The schools need to stay the f out of it. Also, at 7, I'm more interested in them learning how to read, write and do arithmetic. And you have to question of all the fairy tales out there, why did the teacher choose this one?

They were talking in class about different kids of marriages, and since they are in Massachusetts, I think it was an appropriate book for the topic.

The school probably was trying to create an environment in which all of the children, even those who may be adopted by same-sex parents, feel like their family was valid, and let the rest of the children know about the diversity that exists in the world.

Exactly. There was no "sex" involved in this story, I imagine. There's no education of same-sex relationships involved, just as stories with a man and a woman include no education about heterosexual relationships.

Having stories that create inclusion of different groups is not the same thing as talking about men having sex.

We have a teenage girl down the street with 2 moms. She's perfectly normal and lives in a house where she's loved. Why should she be made to feel as an outcast in school?

 

[Dulanic]

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: LadyBuggy

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: BDawg
Who cares. Same sex people exist. As long as there wasn't description of sexual acts, get over it.

It's like complaining that a mexican couple was the subject of the book.

uh, no it isn't. I would prefer if my schools left the sex stuff at home. I am more than capable of deciding when and how to teach my kids about same-sex relationships. The schools need to stay the f out of it. Also, at 7, I'm more interested in them learning how to read, write and do arithmetic. And you have to question of all the fairy tales out there, why did the teacher choose this one?

They were talking in class about different kids of marriages, and since they are in Massachusetts, I think it was an appropriate book for the topic.

The school probably was trying to create an environment in which all of the children, even those who may be adopted by same-sex parents, feel like their family was valid, and let the rest of the children know about the diversity that exists in the world.

Exactly. There was no "sex" involved in this story, I imagine. There's no education of same-sex relationships involved, just as stories with a man and a woman include no education about heterosexual relationships.

Having stories that create inclusion of different groups is not the same thing as talking about men having sex.

We have a teenage girl down the street with 2 moms. She's perfectly normal and lives in a house where she's loved. Why should she be made to feel as an outcast in school?

Exactly, if it doesn't talk about sex how is this an issue? As someone else said, how is it different then a mexican couple? Or a inter-recial couple? Or whatever. Should same sex couples not be allowed in public either? After all your kid might see them, and woooo you havent told them yet!

I would agree with you if there is something more in this fairy tale, more detail.

 

[dawnbug]

Originally posted by: Dulanic

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: LadyBuggy

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: BDawg
Who cares. Same sex people exist. As long as there wasn't description of sexual acts, get over it.

It's like complaining that a mexican couple was the subject of the book.

uh, no it isn't. I would prefer if my schools left the sex stuff at home. I am more than capable of deciding when and how to teach my kids about same-sex relationships. The schools need to stay the f out of it. Also, at 7, I'm more interested in them learning how to read, write and do arithmetic. And you have to question of all the fairy tales out there, why did the teacher choose this one?

They were talking in class about different kids of marriages, and since they are in Massachusetts, I think it was an appropriate book for the topic.

The school probably was trying to create an environment in which all of the children, even those who may be adopted by same-sex parents, feel like their family was valid, and let the rest of the children know about the diversity that exists in the world.

Exactly. There was no "sex" involved in this story, I imagine. There's no education of same-sex relationships involved, just as stories with a man and a woman include no education about heterosexual relationships.

Having stories that create inclusion of different groups is not the same thing as talking about men having sex.

We have a teenage girl down the street with 2 moms. She's perfectly normal and lives in a house where she's loved. Why should she be made to feel as an outcast in school?

Exactly, if it doesn't talk about sex how is this an issue? As someone else said, how is it different then a mexican couple? Or a inter-recial couple? Or whatever. Should same sex couples not be allowed in public either? After all your kid might see them, and woooo you havent told them yet!

I would agree with you if there is something more in this fairy tale, more detail.

And we have this book at the library that I work at-- I've peeked at it. The only aspect of the book that could be considered sexual is the kiss at the wedding of the two guys. And since the class was talking about weddings, I don't think that this is inappropriate.

 

[josh0099]

Usually I am for gay rights, but I am not one to support them putting propaganda into 2nd grade class rooms....

 

[KarenMarie]

when will parents learn that they no longer have the right to say how their children are raised or what they learn in school?

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
when will parents learn that they no longer have the right to say how their children are raised or what they learn in school?

That is obviously not the case. You have been paying at least a little attention to the evolution/intelligent design debate, right?