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Originally posted by: woowoo
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: woowoo
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: woowoo
Originally posted by: Skoorb


The baby einstein DVDs are useful to pacify a child, but be warned there have been some not surprising references made to watching these things and ADD. At least with skoorbaby they are crack and shut her up, but something bad has to be happening in there 🙂

Please do not let your child watch TV.
Educate yourself of the dangers.......

Please don't take a hard-line stance on how to raise a child
Educate yourself on how not to be an assh0le

Children can't speak for themselves
Someone has to.

You're not qualified to tell Skoorb how to raise his child, and you'll never convince anyone that you are.

I apoligize for sounding harsh
I never meant to attack anyone
I work in the biz (public tv) and know the dangers
I am also a parent of a five year old.
Nuff said........
Back to your reguraly scheduled thread

Yep - I've read some bad stuff about to much TV. My kids watch very little of it when they're with me. They whine sometimes, but after a few minutes they find something much more interactive to do then zombie out in front of the TV.

Mom's house is a different story - I get reports back that they sometimes watch 2-3 movies a day there :|
 
OH yes, my take on bed sleeping is we let skoorbaby sleep in the bed almost totally with us for about 6 weeks and then slowly transitioned her into her pack and play (right next to our bed) for another several weeks, then at the three month or so mark put her in her crib with a monitor. She now sleeps in that without issue. At the beginning it's really nicer to have the baby in the bed because they'll wake up all the time, plus it's just nicer for them.

We have friend whose five year old sleeps with dad in his bed and their two year old with mom. Their sleeping is destroyed because of not putting their foot down early enough.
Mom's house is a different story - I get reports back that they sometimes watch 2-3 movies a day there
Probably eat like hell there too, don't they?
 
Originally posted by: Mr N8



1. What things should I absolutely have for when the baby comes home? A lot of our friends have asked us if we are registered, so we're thinking we might register for some things we'll need at Target and maybe Kohl's.


Diapers and wipes.


2. Where are the best (cheapest) places to get good clothing for a baby?


Baby clothes don't really get worn a whole lot before the child outgrows them. So you can find relatives or friends that have had children and steal those clothes. Thats the cheap way. Don't get suckered into buying name brand baby clothes for that same reason. They will outgrow them so fast.



3. What things should I do / get for my wife? I want to make sure she's taken care of, too, and also want to do something special for her once she is home.

Make sure the house is spotless. hire a cleaning service if you need to. She will be in pain the first couple of days. Make sure she is able to be well rested. Every mom is different, but try to keep the hordes of people away the first couple of days. Newborns can get sick easy and you don't want them being passes around. My sister in law was different and she just had to have 20 visitors in the hospital making everyone hold her 5 hour old baby. Her hormones will wreak havoc on her personality.


4. What were the big adjustments you had to make to your life once you had your first child?


No sleep. It maybe a few weeks before the baby sleeps through the night (all babies are different though). Make sure the wife breast feeds so you have an excuse to sleep through the crying. 😉
 
Don't plan on doing your usual routine things anymore, as the routine has completely changed. We didn't go out to eat with the baby for a bit over 6 months, as it was the cold season and why disturb everyone else's dinner by making such a commotion with the little one ?

Good suggestions I've seen so far:
Diaper Genie or Diaper Champ .. whichever ones masks thoise nasty diaper smells most.
Baby Einstein DVDs .. our daughter fell asleep to them almost like clockwork.
good carseat (two piece model that can be popped off of base and then used as a carrier)
Dr. Brown's bottles - cuts down on air intake so less burping
bouncy seat - puts them to sleep in no time.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
OH yes, my take on bed sleeping is we let skoorbaby sleep in the bed almost totally with us for about 6 weeks and then slowly transitioned her into her pack and play (right next to our bed) for another several weeks, then at the three month or so mark put her in her crib with a monitor. She now sleeps in that without issue. At the beginning it's really nicer to have the baby in the bed because they'll wake up all the time, plus it's just nicer for them.

We have friend whose five year old sleeps with dad in his bed and their two year old with mom. Their sleeping is destroyed because of not putting their foot down early enough.
Mom's house is a different story - I get reports back that they sometimes watch 2-3 movies a day there
Probably eat like hell there too, don't they?

Not sure, but I know they get alot more junk food there. Lately my son (3) always wants to take fruit or carrot sticks along when I drop him off at mom's house. Part of that is copying big sister (6) who takes that to school for a snack, but he says that mom doesn't have that stuff when I ask him.
 
Originally posted by: Mr N8
We're having our first child in Sept, and I need some advice from parents. I have a lot of ideas, but I'm hoping to gain some new wisdom from the parents here.

1. What things should I absolutely have for when the baby comes home? A lot of our friends have asked us if we are registered, so we're thinking we might register for some things we'll need at Target and maybe Kohl's.

2. Where are the best (cheapest) places to get good clothing for a baby?

3. What things should I do / get for my wife? I want to make sure she's taken care of, too, and also want to do something special for her once she is home.

4. What were the big adjustments you had to make to your life once you had your first child?

1. Diapers, wipes, blankets, infant clothes, a car carrier (<-must! You can place the baby in it when you move around the house), formula (if not nursing). A wedge shaped pillow comes in handy if your wife is nursing...it gives her something to lean against while in bed or on the couch.

2. Kohl's, Target, Baby's R Us, are all great for baby clothes. KMart's bulk packs were always cheapest on diapers here. BTW- On diapers, get a few different brands first and see which one you like the best. Huggies makes the best quality of baby wipes.

3. I had a gift shop deliver a giant gift basket to the house before we got home. It had a keepsake bear mother holding a child, a bunch of her favorite coffees and chocolates, massage oils, comfy pajamas, etc. You can make your own basket and leave it in the house for when you get back.

4. The biggest adjustment to be made (and not everyone is successful) is that your life is no longer totally yours. You now have a little life that is completely dependant on you, and it is your job to make sure all of the needs are met- be it material needs, extra work, attention...whatever. If you can remember that and get through it, you will be an excellent parent. You'll find that people that can not deal with that are the ones that turn out to be terrible parents.

Also, don't be afraid to put the baby down. You and your wife need time to yourselves to keep your relationship flourishing, and a happy marriage is one of the greatest gifts you can give to a child.

Good luck on your new baby! 🙂
 
1. in new york it is illegal to leave the hospital without a car seat, iirc, so make sure you know what your state says. you'll need it anyway for travelling in the car.
diapers(we never had or used a diaper genie)
diaper bag(it's really convenient having all your baby stuff in one bag)
receiving blankets
bottles & formula if you're going that route
bottlewarmer(if you're bottle feeding; this seems like a luxury but nothing beats it when your baby is crying at 3am)
baby hat
vaseline and/or desitin
wipes(get lots of these; poopies can get very messy for newborns; we prefer huggies natural care wipes)
baby thermometer
pacifiers(get more than one in case one gets dirty or lost)
layette(infant clothes) - get ones that have the sleeves that fold over the hands so that you can protect your baby from scratching himself/herself - also ones that tie are easier to put on the baby(as opposed to trying to pull a shirt over the baby's head when it has no significant neck musculature) but be careful of the strings(if they're really long they are a choke hazzard)
baby swing or bouncy chair
baby bjorn(infant carrier for holding the baby in front of you)
washcloths
baby wash
baby towels

i think those are the major things we used most often. i think babiesrus.com has a list of things you should consider buying as well.

2. we got the most clothing from family hand-me-downs(the girl's cousin is 4 years old so outgrew most of her clothing already) and from family gifts. if you're going to buy clothing make sure you don't spend too much because the baby will outgrow everything relatively quickly( eg - you don't really need to buy outfits at babygap if you find good ones at carter's or target.)

3. are you putting the baby in daycare or will your wife be at home? if you can afford it, i think the best thing would be a baby nurse for at least the first couple of weeks. she essentially handles the baby and brings the baby to mom only for feedings. this gives your wife time to recover and get adjusted to the ridiculous sleeping/feeding schedule. it also helps to have an authority on babies around when it's your first child. you should also take up the house chores(cleaning, laundry, cooking, etc). other than that, offer lots of verbal support.

4. the biggest thing is the sleep schedule. it can be very rough, but you actually can get used to being a zombie 24/7. if possible, you should try to get the baby on a feeding/sleeping schedule. this will go a long way towards getting more sleep. unfortunately, we've heard lots of horror stories about babies who wake up every 1.5 hours for feedings. we were lucky that the girl fed every 4 hours.

the second thing is how everything in your life will now revolve around the baby and his/her well-being(at least this was the case for us).

one thing that we will keep in mind if we have another baby is that babies are much more resilient than you think. we used to worry about every single thing down to if we had the water/formula ratio correct in the bottles we were giving her. babies are much, much tougher than you think. they are built with thousands of years of evolution behind them(if you believe in evolution). i'm not saying that you don't need to take care of them, but instead that you shouldn't put the pressure on yourself of thinking that any wrong decision will have permanent, debilitating consequences. just make sure you love and care for your baby because that's what he/she needs most.

and make sure you have a pediatrician you like 😉. we had one who seemed like she had no confidence in any of her decisions. we switched to one who was worlds better and it gave us a much better sense of security regarding the baby's health. j

EDIT: i forgot to add a baby monitor. these help if you are not right next to the nursery or wherever the baby sleeps.

also, regarding strollers, we absolutely loved the universal car seat carrier. it's essentially a frame that you attach the car seat to. it was very easy to transition the car seat from car base to the stroller and it had a huge basket underneath which was invaluable, even while grocery shopping 🙂. they're also ridiculously light, which is good for when mom has to fold it up and put it in the back of the car.

we considered getting one of those all-in-one systems but they were really bulky and heavy.
 
Originally posted by: Mr N8
We're having our first child in Sept, and I need some advice from parents. I have a lot of ideas, but I'm hoping to gain some new wisdom from the parents here.

1. What things should I absolutely have for when the baby comes home? A lot of our friends have asked us if we are registered, so we're thinking we might register for some things we'll need at Target and maybe Kohl's.

2. Where are the best (cheapest) places to get good clothing for a baby?

3. What things should I do / get for my wife? I want to make sure she's taken care of, too, and also want to do something special for her once she is home.

4. What were the big adjustments you had to make to your life once you had your first child?
1. Infant car seat is essential. Most hospitals won't let you go home without it. As already mentioned here, newborn size (unless you have a really big baby) diapers and wipes. In the beginning, lots of receiving blankets and "onesies" (one piece baby "underwear" that covers the torso. They also have these baby "gowns" that are open at the bottom for the baby's legs - think long t-shirt.) are very useful. Diaper genie or some other brand form of it is also great. I would also have some Desitin (diaper rash ointment) available, just in case, but you probably won't need it in the beginning.

2. Target is pretty OK for baby clothes price wise. Cheaper than that, look to family or friends who've had kids already (and presumably aren't planning to have more). Baby won't need that many clothes in the beginning anyway (other than the onesies/gowns).

3. I don't know if your wife is breastfeeding or not, but if she is, she will not be able to sleep more than a few hours between feedings before the baby will want to eat again. If this is the case, one of the biggest things you can do to help her is get your baby to take a bottle early. You can then use either pumped breast milk or formula to help your wife with some feedings and let her get a block of 5-6 hours of sleep. Imagine only being able to sleep 2-3 hours at a time for 2-3 months. Then you'll see why your wife will really appreciate this. Once your wife is more recovered and feels like going out again (especially if the baby takes a bottle), let her have a weekend afternoon to herself every so often - to shop, see a movie, whatever. If you are working in the daytime, expect that your wife will not always be in a good mood when you get home. Be understanding if she's a bit cranky or short with you. Also, see if you can take care of some of the things that she usually does temporarily.

4. Biggest adjustment is that the baby becomes the one who dictates your schedules to a certain extent. For people who are used to having set schedules or free time, this can be difficult. The baby will not necessarily to conform to meet your plans. Realize this and be flexible. Get a TiVo if there's TV shows you can't miss. Your Saturday morning sports-related activity or Thursday night poker game may need to be cancelled or postponed from time to time. Babies are unpredictable and stuff happens. 🙂

Good luck!!

EDIT: I saw someone mention the wedge shaped pillow to help your wife when feeding the baby. I believe "Boppy" pillow is the brand name? A glider/rocker is often nice as well to soothe the baby.
EDIT2: After reading my advice in 3, it's worth mentioning that some babies have a problem with nipple "confusion"., i.e. baby will get confused by the breast vs. the artificial nipple and have some trouble. Neither of my kids did, but it does happen.
 
A lot of good stuff here. Thanks, everyone. I'm really not nervous at all. I'm mentally very ready for this, and have been for a long time. I'm just not a very detail oriented person, so I needed a little advice on the "stuff" side of things.

Fortunately, I'll be able to take 3 weeks off, so I won't need to hire anyone to help out and I'll be able to tell my mom and mil to stay away for at least a little bit. My job isn't a great paying job, but for some reason they are very understanding of maternity/paternity leave.
 
Originally posted by: Mr N8
A lot of good stuff here. Thanks, everyone. I'm really not nervous at all. I'm mentally very ready for this, and have been for a long time. I'm just not a very detail oriented person, so I needed a little advice on the "stuff" side of things.

That can only mean that you have no idea what you have gotten yourself into 😛
 
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: Mr N8
A lot of good stuff here. Thanks, everyone. I'm really not nervous at all. I'm mentally very ready for this, and have been for a long time. I'm just not a very detail oriented person, so I needed a little advice on the "stuff" side of things.

That can only mean that you have no idea what you have gotten yourself into 😛

Don't listen to this guy. I wasn't really nervous at all either. My son will be 3 in August and he's been a joy.

Enjoy them while they are young, they grow up quickly.

BTW-Do you know what you're having?
 
One thing I think we did well was take out skoorbaby immediately. She was five days old when we first took her out, and since then we've not let her get in the way of going shopping or anything we want to do, and as a result she is really easy to take out. We've taken her out to dinner on numerous occassions and she is not problematic in the least.

You do not need a diaper genie with a special bag for each diaper. All you need is an enclosable garbage can for about $10 from babys r us, and just put walmart bags in it and drop all the diapers into it.

PS if your wife is breast feeding this is going to be a lot easier on you, because you just go and get your kid at night and then go back to sleep immeidately, while your wife is the one who stays up feeding it 🙂
 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: Mr N8
A lot of good stuff here. Thanks, everyone. I'm really not nervous at all. I'm mentally very ready for this, and have been for a long time. I'm just not a very detail oriented person, so I needed a little advice on the "stuff" side of things.

That can only mean that you have no idea what you have gotten yourself into 😛

Don't listen to this guy. I wasn't really nervous at all either. My son will be 3 in August and he's been a joy.

shrug - whatever. I don't know of anybody who honestly wasn't nervous about coming home with a newborn or being a first time parent, the huge change in lifestyle, anxious about the birth process, the health of the child they are expecting, etc.
 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: Mr N8
A lot of good stuff here. Thanks, everyone. I'm really not nervous at all. I'm mentally very ready for this, and have been for a long time. I'm just not a very detail oriented person, so I needed a little advice on the "stuff" side of things.

That can only mean that you have no idea what you have gotten yourself into 😛

Don't listen to this guy. I wasn't really nervous at all either. My son will be 3 in August and he's been a joy.

Enjoy them while they are young, they grow up quickly.

BTW-Do you know what you're having?

We should be able to find out next Friday. Honestly, I don't care what sex the baby is. The only thing is that we have a few boy's names we like, but can't agree on a girl's name at all.

One thing I think we did well was take out skoorbaby immediately. She was five days old when we first took her out, and since then we've not let her get in the way of going shopping or anything we want to do, and as a result she is really easy to take out. We've taken her out to dinner on numerous occassions and she is not problematic in the least.

You do not need a diaper genie with a special bag for each diaper. All you need is an enclosable garbage can for about $10 from babys r us, and just put walmart bags in it and drop all the diapers into it.

PS if your wife is breast feeding this is going to be a lot easier on you, because you just go and get your kid at night and then go back to sleep immeidately, while your wife is the one who stays up feeding it

Yeah, we have friends who were afraid to take their kids out, and they are horrible in public. They never want to be out and the kids are always upset when they have to go shopping or out to eat.

As far as the breast feeding, we've decided that she will, and we've also already agreed that I will get the baby for her and then I can go back to sleep. We have a bassinet from my parents, but I think the baby will probably just be in the bed for the first month or so.
 
Originally posted by: Sophia
Learn to sing. While your baby won't care if you sing the same lullaby 57 times in a row, you'll probably want more variety.

:thumbsup:

Good point. Both my wife and are are very musical, so that won't be a problem.
 
One thing you need to understand is that just after giving birth, most women are a hormonal wreck. The sound of a baby crying made me physically ill for a few days. Watch her for clues about whether she can handle the crying at first, take baby to her to nurse if you can't calm him/her down, or take baby for a walk if necessary. It gets better after a few days, but the lack of sleep, pain, and change in hormones make the first little while challenging.

It takes about 6 weeks to iron out all of the difficulties with nursing...to get both mom & baby into the groove, get over soreness, etc. I cannot stress highly enough how much better breastmilk is for infants than formula is, so be as supportive as possible with her while she is going through the "I'll never figure out how to do this without getting sore" phase. It will pass. Do NOT push formula on her when she is crying about being tender. It will pass, and bottles in the first month or so can really undermine the nursing process. Remind her that this phase doesn't last forever, that women have been doing this since the beginning of our species, and that baby will be much healthier with breastmilk (fewer/no ear infections, etc.) Buy some Lansinoh ointment, get some help from someone who either has been through it before or is a professional lactation consultant.

Learn to smile and ignore any advice you get that you don't agree with, even if it's from your own mother. They mean well, and what they tell you is what worked for THEIR kids, but YOU are the baby's parents, YOU know this child better than anyone else (every baby is different), YOU have to deal with the consequences of good or bad parenting.

Before baby comes, fill your freezer with meals you can just stick in the oven or microwave. Buy a few packages of paper plates, bowls, cups, and don't feel guilty for using them the first couple weeks. You will want to make it as easy as possible for her to spend time taking care of baby and getting extra sleep. If you don't own one, buy a dishwasher. This was the nicest thing I got when I was close to having my second child.

Every day, give her at least a half hour of time so she can go soak in the bathtub or whatever she needs to do, without having to worry about baby. NEVER complain about it. At first, she'll probably feel like she's a bad mother or like something bad will happen if she leaves baby in the bassinet or play pen (we called that thing "baby jail") while you are gone so she can shower.

Do what feels right to you. You will learn what your baby needs. My firstborn screamed bloody murder the first night home when we put him in the bassinet to sleep. The next night, I pulled him into bed with us and he slept all night. He slept that way from then on, and let me get a good 8 hours of sleep from the very beginning. He was in a toddler bed in our room by 18 months, and in his own room by 2 and never gave us any problems whatsoever (didn't cry, get out of bed, just has always gone right to sleep.) My daughter didn't sleep through the night from day 1, but she pretty much followed the same routine as my son. Never gave us any problems. Every child is different. A child who feels safe will generally not give you too many problems with bedtime.

For newborns, I liked having lots of onesies, some mittens (the first few days some babies will scratch their own faces by accident), several of those bassinet liners (like a changing pad only bigger, I liked the larger size for diaper changes, and you need several because baby will get poop all over them with amazing frequency) and a few of those long nighties with the elastic at the bottom for bedtime (makes it a breeze to change a diaper at night.) And a swing was really really nice, it knocked my son out like a light (but my daughter HATED it, so we didn't use it for her.) Borrow one if you can, they only can use them for a few months, and if your kid hates it, you aren't stuck with an expensive, large item to trip over. And a sling or pack you can throw baby in, it's really nice to leave the house without having to bring a stroller all the time.

You don't need for a newborn: shoes, 2 piece outfits (like pants and shirts, you'll never keep them from riding up and exposing baby's back/belly), most of the goop & lotions people will give you in gift baskets (you just need some mild shampoo/soap, diaper cream, and maybe some corn starch.)

Finally, when you ask a mom for advice about newborns, you will find that they can talk on and on and on forever, as is witnessed by the above paragraphs. 😱 I had to just cut myself off, finally.
 
Originally posted by: Mr N8
A lot of good stuff here. Thanks, everyone. I'm really not nervous at all. I'm mentally very ready for this, and have been for a long time. I'm just not a very detail oriented person, so I needed a little advice on the "stuff" side of things.

Fortunately, I'll be able to take 3 weeks off, so I won't need to hire anyone to help out and I'll be able to tell my mom and mil to stay away for at least a little bit. My job isn't a great paying job, but for some reason they are very understanding of maternity/paternity leave.

The scariest thing is the wait. After the baby arrives, you'll be amazed how everything settles into place.

Some tips about the birth: Make sure your wife's hands are no where near your crotch area during contractions. Having had experience with this...let's just say "keep clear."

DO NOT look south when the baby is coming out. If you do, you may get the pleasure of seeing an episiotomy. I saw this 9 years ago and it's still making my skin creep. EWWW!
 
As far as the breast feeding, we've decided that she will, and we've also already agreed that I will get the baby for her and then I can go back to sleep. We have a bassinet from my parents, but I think the baby will probably just be in the bed for the first month or so.
Sounds perfect. A lot of people won't support breast feeding, due to prevailing ignorance. Thankfully there is a growing trend towards it again, as all health professionals (except the incorrect ones) agree that it's better than formula. Still, a lot of people don't bother with it, and there is a lot of bogus crap excuses from mothers like "My milk supply hasn't come in yet" or "I wasn't producing enough milk", which in 99% of cases is nonsense. Formula, remember, is a new invention, and the human race never had such sorry complaints before. I heard of one girl who's entire family (incl husband) didn't want her breast feeding, calling it selfish because then they couldn't feed their child. /rant over!
One thing you need to understand is that most women are a hormonal wreck.
Corrected 😀

Now that I've read Bryophyte's statements on breastfeeding, I agree completely. _Stick to it_, and don't go with the "poor mom" copouts.

Oh, remember that one-piece zip-up suits are your friend (it looks like a sac with a zip on the front). Changing a diaper at 3am is much nicer if you've got just one long zip to undo and then easy access to the diaper.
 
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