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waggy

No Lifer
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Fvck no, my dad told me "If you want to go to college you can pay for it yourself". But it didn't really matter, I didn't want to go at the time. I went through an apprenticeship in a skilled trade instead.

Of course that was a long time ago. I doubt many would be interested in taking that path today.

yo would be wrong. trouble is while there are kids that want to the opportunity is not there.
 

Elbryn

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I wouldn't be to sure of that. A few of my friends went the tradesman route, if I had the opportunity then I may have as well. My older son(now 5) is very good with is hands, building all sorts of contraptions with anything laying around, understands data/power basic cabling and electrical safety so far. I would not be surprised one bit if he chose that route too. Don't sell yourself short. Without tradesmen where would we be?

i'd agree with you on this one. too many kids going to college, with select fields that can generally justify the cost. germany's got a pretty good thing going where high school kids can opt to split their time in half between school and a trade business learning applicable skills.
 

stargazr

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My older son(now 5) is very good with is hands, building all sorts of contraptions with anything laying around, understands data/power basic cabling and electrical safety so far. I would not be surprised one bit if he chose that route too.

That sounds great. Seems like some kids spend their youth inside playing video games.

Yes we definitely need tradesman, it's just that there has been such a focus on college as the path to take. There are many reasons: We don't create as much as we used to. We've become more of a service economy. There are less jobs because of companies moving to cheaper locations, technology eliminating tasks formerly performed by skilled help etc.

Seems like most members here grew up in the computer age and are more college - oriented. But learning a skilled trade can be very rewarding if you can pick something that has a future.
 

stargazr

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yo would be wrong. trouble is while there are kids that want to the opportunity is not there.

Yeah I was thinking more of members of this forum than young people in general. You're right, there aren't as many opportunities as when I graduated high school. There used to be what seemed like countless factories (in the Northeast) where you could get hired with no experience and learn on the job.
 

WelshBloke

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Jan 12, 2005
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So is OP:

1)A scumbag

2)A troll

3)A whiny bitch

4)Just misunderstood

5)Most of the above?
 

Demo24

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Aug 5, 2004
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No, FAFSA just fails. Last time I did it it put my families EFC at over 35,000, which is about how much my Dad made in a year. It's a broken system.

I'll be doing it this year anyway, but still... it's a crapshoot.


Then you clearly failed at inputting the correct information. And for what it's worth my mom (whom im listed as dependent) makes well more than that and I still got FWS funds to use. Easy to get as long as you check the damn box.

However nothing can ever be your fault so obviously it's fafsa. :rolleyes:
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
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Then you clearly failed at inputting the correct information. And for what it's worth my mom (whom im listed as dependent) makes well more than that and I still got FWS funds to use. Easy to get as long as you check the damn box.

However nothing can ever be your fault so obviously it's fafsa. :rolleyes:

Yeah, in another thread he was told how he fucked-up on filling out his financial aid forms and couldn't get a work-study job on campus. Yet, he has the nerve to give shit to someone else in this thread about not filing for financial aid.

Seriously, I can't think of a more useless individual than Trident. He's poor but can afford an iphone, car, gaming desktop, DSLR and now is bitching about not having a laptop for gaming and lightroom, not that he needs a laptop for school.

But in the end, he'll fail out of school and work at Ross for the rest of his pathetic life while telling anyone that gives him advice that they're wrong and he's right.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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If I plan to really use this laptop for something beyond super basic school work, then those things are really a requirement.

You may want to consider that a "specialized" laptop tends to be much more expensive. Also, a SSD in a laptop tends to be much more expensive in general. Along the same lines as that, it's not very practical to just put a SSD in a laptop as they're not great for main storage (simply too small unless you shell out a lot of money). So you'll need a laptop that can handle two hard drives, which typically means 17" or larger. There are some smaller ones that can do it, but it's not terribly common.

Also, I would never buy a laptop with a SSD already in it. I would buy a laptop and put the SSD in it, because they gouge on SSDs like crazy.

I currently have this stupid modem in my room that is insanely bright. I can't cover it up though because then it might overheat.

It's not going to overheat if you just put something in front of it. In my case, the router faced my bed, so the LEDs were quite bothersome. The envelope was just kind of a random thing, but it worked great and caused absolutely no problems since it really just reflected most of the light onto the wall behind it.

EDIT:

To add, I didn't have a laptop in college and I "survived" :p... so I would just forget about it. If you go through the year and find it absolutely necessary, find some avenue to get the money.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
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Yeah if lights bother you that much just put something in front of it, you don't have to cover the whole thing LOL.

I did not have a laptop in college. In fact, I sadly have never owned one and still don't. I could have bought one any time with money I earned, but never really saw a big enough need so I usually put money towards my server or computer instead. A laptop is a convinience, not a need.
 

Demo24

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Yeah, in another thread he was told how he fucked-up on filling out his financial aid forms and couldn't get a work-study job on campus. Yet, he has the nerve to give shit to someone else in this thread about not filing for financial aid.

Seriously, I can't think of a more useless individual than Trident. He's poor but can afford an iphone, car, gaming desktop, DSLR and now is bitching about not having a laptop for gaming and lightroom, not that he needs a laptop for school.

But in the end, he'll fail out of school and work at Ross for the rest of his pathetic life while telling anyone that gives him advice that they're wrong and he's right.


This is why I'll be using him to write a psychology paper a bit later this semester. Gives me a lot of material to work with. :D
 

alfa147x

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You may want to consider that a "specialized" laptop tends to be much more expensive. Also, a SSD in a laptop tends to be much more expensive in general. Along the same lines as that, it's not very practical to just put a SSD in a laptop as they're not great for main storage (simply too small unless you shell out a lot of money). So you'll need a laptop that can handle two hard drives, which typically means 17" or larger. There are some smaller ones that can do it, but it's not terribly common.

Also, I would never buy a laptop with a SSD already in it. I would buy a laptop and put the SSD in it, because they gouge on SSDs like crazy.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2191749

;)
 

tedrodai

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Jan 18, 2006
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Whew...wasn't about to read through 9 pages of this stuff, but since you asked:

My parents saved money for my education (and that of my 2 younger siblings) through the years. But my parents got divorced, our mom went crazy (literally...schizo), quit her job about 4 years before I graduated HS, has never been able to acknowledge she has a problem that isn't caused by somebody else, and drained every last bit of any sort of money she had access to. Eventually for the 2nd semester of my senior year, I told our dad we had to move in with him, and he hasn't exactly been a financial paragon over the years. So, I paid for college with:

a) scholarships
b) loans
c) working

You're whining.

That said, if the parents can afford an escalade, they can afford to get their college student a PC. If they can't afford an escalade but have one anyways, well...don't make the same mistakes, kid.
 

Mr. Lennon

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I think we can all describe what his parents are like at this point.

:biggrin:

They are the perfect example of what's wrong with this country. No one saves money anymore. Who the hell willfully retires at 46/50 when you are poor?

At least TridenT knows how to save.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
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He mentioned earlier in the thread that his dad retired at 50. His mom thought that was unfair and also decided to retire at only 46.

His father is retired due to being a disabled war veteran.

And please tell me how the OP knows how to save? Last time he had some money, he bought himself a DSLR with lenses.

This thread is about the OP whining that his parents won't give him money for a laptop so that he can game and use lightroom, not for school.

Maybe, if the little prick knew how to SAVE and not waste it on an iphone, car, DSLR, gaming desktop, etc he would have money for a gaming laptop.
 

Juddog

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Dec 11, 2006
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Wow kids are spoiled nowadays.

When I went to school my parents didn't pay a single dime. I worked two jobs while going to school part time and had about 4-5 hours of sleep a night. Completed school, paid off loans for 8 years afterwards, all on my own.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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Wow kids are spoiled nowadays.

When I went to school my parents didn't pay a single dime. I worked two jobs while going to school part time and had about 4-5 hours of sleep a night. Completed school, paid off loans for 8 years afterwards, all on my own.

/pats Juddog on the back. They don't make 'em like they used to.
 

Mr. Lennon

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Jul 2, 2004
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His father is retired due to being a disabled war veteran.

And please tell me how the OP knows how to save? Last time he had some money, he bought himself a DSLR with lenses.

This thread is about the OP whining that his parents won't give him money for a laptop so that he can game and use lightroom, not for school.

Maybe, if the little prick knew how to SAVE and not waste it on an iphone, car, DSLR, gaming desktop, etc he would have money for a gaming laptop.

My father is a disabled veteran...he's 50 and still works.

To be honest this is the first TridenT thread I've ever participated in. All I know about him is from bits of this thread. He seems to recognize his parents inability to save money. That trait will serve him well in life.

I assumed his parents bought all those items for him. If he really did buy them himself...well I'll give him credit. I didn't know a single person who had to buy their own car in high school. As for the DSLR lens...if he's truly using it to make money then I would consider that a investment.

Regardless, none of this gives him the right to act like an entitled ass.
 
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GotIssues

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When you're as poor as I am, there is no financial buffer... It's not like I go, "Hey, I got X amount saved up. I can go buy Y! Woot pants!" And if that was to ever happen, it'd literally take years. (I'm not joking. Years to save $1,000. It's not fucking fun and neither is the resulting product when you have to save so fucking much.)
You don’t need a data plan or a texting plan. Now you’ve freed up ~$500/year in expenses.
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To be honest this is the first TridenT thread I've ever participated in. All I know about him is from bits of this thread. He seems to recognize his parents inability to save money. That trait will serve him well in life.

He only regonizes that his parents are spending money on themselves and not on him. It's not the lack of saving he's recognizing, it's the fact that the money isn't being funneled to Trident.

I assumed his parents bought all those items for him. If he really did buy them himself...well I'll give him credit. I didn't know a single person who had to buy their own car in high school. As for the DSLR lens...if he's truly using it to make money then I would consider that a investment.

You shouldn't give credit to someone who buys stuff for themselves. If you have not noticed, he's constantly complaining about how "all his money goes to rent and food" but he wants a $1500 laptop, has $700 worth of DSLR equipment, an iPhone (which, I might add, is not only a large upfront cost, but a large recurring cost), external HD, desktop computer, etc.

He's spending like a dipshit, then wants sympathy for being "poor." Error: Sympathy Not Found.

Regardless, none of this gives him the right to act like an entitled ass.

He's a selfish pile of shit who seems to think he's entitled to an inheritance from his grandmother... err, his "parent's mother."

Not only that, he keeps saying he "needs this" or "needs that" and tries to play like he's had it tough. I call bullshit, because no one who has actually had it tough is this far out of touch with what is a "need" and what is a "want." He isn't poor, he's just a dipshit with money.
This little post by Trident is all you really need to see to blow up any positive feelings you’ve expressed:
Bolded is where you are wrong. I never felt good about having to save and save AND SAVE my fucking money in school so I could end up spending $5,000+ on newegg for computers. I liked having those computers but I DIDN'T LIKE SAVING. I save just because I have to. I don't want to save. I don't feel good about it. I don't feel like, "Hey I earned this, blahblahblah." I feel like, "Hey, here goes my entire fucking life savings again. Here comes another endless cycle of agony that involves saving money. Here comes the, 'I can't afford this, that, this, that.' FML."

I hate saving money and spending it on shit. It's the worst. I have to part with years of work for some shit that I could have easily gotten if I just had a family that wasn't so inadequate.

Oh, and you're wrong about the whole I'll always want more shit. I'm pretty content when I have something pretty great. The only thing that changes is that the industry keeps advancing and so what I have that is great now will not be that great in a couple years. I'm fine with that as long as I can upgrade every couple years, but that's not how it works for me. I don't get to upgrade so I can play the latest games and run the latest apps.
Trident is a piece of shit who wants, wants, want and thinks he’s entitled to someone else working for it and flat out giving it to him. Frankly, he is everything that is wrong with America’s youth.
 

Mr. Lennon

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not all disabled are the same. to say so and so is disabled and works is insulting.

I didn't mean it like that all. Confusion on my part. I thought you were under the impression that no disabled veteran works.