"Paranormal Activity" - The Movie

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swbsam

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Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Just off the top of my head, here is some stuff that they could have added (following up my other post) - spoilers again -:

1) Plant that seed early that Micah screwed over some clients who are out to get him.
Start the noises in the beginning on the OUTSIDE of the house. Have noises that sound like something is tapping the glass in the bedroom at night. Leave stuff on the lawn like mangled mice - was it their cat that killed 5 mice or was it someone who was out to get him?? Show dead insects (like a ton of crickets) floating in his backyard pool. Banging at night should be coming from the outside of the house. Have him call the cops and have him ask them to patrol his street if possible because someone is playing pranks on him. This will throw them for an early loop that also ties in nicely with his fiance having the demon problem.

2) Take out the scene where it scratched his pic. Put in an early scene where someone from his family calls and is shocked to hear his voice. That they just wanted to hear his voice one more time on the recording since they thought he was dead. Inform the audience that his family received a call from *someone* 15 minutes ago who claimed to be the police, informing them he and Katie had just died in a boating accident where the bodies hadn't been found yet. He thinks it's a sick person that's out to get revenge on him and the same people fcking with the outside of the house at night.

2) Let that idea (people out to get Micah) breathe til the middle of the film. That is until stuff starts happening that a human PROBABLY couldn't do without a lot of effort. Like changing the temperature of the house when the thermostat is already set (alternate from high heat to the AC turning on) and the house being completely secure from the outside (show Micah installing a high tech ADT alarm system with motion sensors during the day). Make the noises start from the inside of the house now instead of the outside, just like the movie did. Have him call ADT and ask if any of the sensors had been tripped the night before for a breakin and they say no, there was no motion detected.

3) Make pets start doing crazy stuff like not eat for a week. For example, have the cat in the attic hiss at Katie and stare/glare angrily at both of them at random times during the day. In the scene with the pic in the attic, put the cat there and make the couple wonder how the hell the cat got into the attic when it's completely sealed?? Make the cat do strange things in the bedroom, like stare at them for long periods of time before SHE starts to do it too... WITH the cat. Make fish start dying in the fish tank slowly but surely. Have some of the fish on the kitchen floor dead, and have him think at first that it's the cat. Have them find dead groups of ants in different parts of the house during the day.

4) Have trick or treaters (kids) stop by and act very jovial and lively. Except for one kid. Have him stare at Katie with a hint of malice on his face but not say a word to contrast with the other happy kids. Afterwords, have her ask Micah if he saw this (of course he'll say no...)

5) Cut out the scene where he finds here sleepwalking outside on the swing. Cut out the scene with her cutting herself with the cross. Instead, have him find her in the downstairs bathroom in the dark staring at the mirror with scissors in her hand. Make her stare at him through the mirror with the same hint of malice look the trick or treater kid had toward her. Make him respond with terror because he's never seen this look from her. Then all of a sudden, she's back to normal and acting like she just awoke. Show a slight crack in the mirror that they notice hadn't been there before. Then show that she had cut a very small, intricate pattern in her leg that no human could have done with scissors.

6) In the ouija board scene, don't have him record it. Just show that it's on the kitchen floor when they got home and be in shock.

7) Cut out the stupid powder scene, as well as any scene where physical contact is made aside from something that could have been caused by air blowing (door moving, sheets blowing). Keep all of the footstep noises in the house though.

7) Cut out the scene where she does the demonic voiceover to the camera. Don't give away that she's going to kill him at all. This will tie into my new alternate ending.

8) In the scene at the end: have her screaming downstairs and him running down like before. Have her scream again and have him scream in terror right after she stops. Have the door in the bedroom blow slightly/halfway closed just enough so you can't see the hallway. Have one human pair of footsteps RUN up the stairs very fast and into the upstairs bathroom or bedroom followed by the demon sounding footsteps running right behind them. Have the sound of glass shattering, but you don't know if it's the bathroom or spare bedrooms. End the movie and say on the screen that they were both missing to this day and that police found the house untouched with no sign of how the couple could have left.

What do you think? Anyone on ATOT want to produce a movie like this? :)

No offense but I don't think any of these ideas would have made it a better movie, just a different and more conventional movie.

Agree 100% with Don. I loved the movie because it lacked the elements that you want added.

I like ambiguity. I like having to use my imagination. In fact, I would have liked a bit more ambiguity, leaving the question of insanity vs. haunting more up to me. But, in the end, I actually liked that the film maker had a point of view and didn't take my vague indie-cop out...

Oh yeah, my wife hated it..
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

No offense but I don't think any of these ideas would have made it a better movie, just a different and more conventional movie.

That's cool, glad you read it.

I actually thought this movie was very conventional. A ghost dragging her out of bed, demonic voiceover, a ouija board catching fire/scratching letters on the board, her cutting herself with a cross? All sucked IMO.

I think a pet would have been 10X scarier simply because many people have pets and they have human emotions/intelligence. There haven't been many movies out that have really captured the creepiness of a pet. But to each their own.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: swbsam

Agree 100% with Don. I loved the movie because it lacked the elements that you want added.

I like ambiguity. I like having to use my imagination. In fact, I would have liked a bit more ambiguity, leaving the question of insanity vs. haunting more up to me. But, in the end, I actually liked that the film maker had a point of view and didn't take my vague indie-cop out...

Oh yeah, my wife hated it..

Um, my ending is ambiguous (Which one is running up the stairs? Why did the glass shatter? Did one of them kill the other?).

The real ending was not ambiguous at all. Footsteps in powder? Cmon dude. Demonic voiceovers and a demon throwing him across the room? Where is the imagination?

Just admit you're a fanboy.

 

swbsam

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

No offense but I don't think any of these ideas would have made it a better movie, just a different and more conventional movie.

That's cool, glad you read it.

I actually thought this movie was very conventional. A ghost dragging her out of bed, demonic voiceover, a ouija board catching fire/scratching letters on the board, her cutting herself with a cross? All sucked IMO.

I think a pet would have been 10X scarier simply because many people have pets and they have human emotions/intelligence. There haven't been many movies out that have really captured the creepiness of a pet. But to each their own.

Are you retarded? Every creepy movie features at least one false scare involving a shrieking cat. How could you rationally say "this movie was ok but needed more pussy?"

hah. sorry, had to say that.
 

swbsam

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: swbsam

Agree 100% with Don. I loved the movie because it lacked the elements that you want added.

I like ambiguity. I like having to use my imagination. In fact, I would have liked a bit more ambiguity, leaving the question of insanity vs. haunting more up to me. But, in the end, I actually liked that the film maker had a point of view and didn't take my vague indie-cop out...

Oh yeah, my wife hated it..

Um, my ending is ambiguous (Which one is running up the stairs? Why did the glass shatter? Did one of them kill the other?).

The real ending was not ambiguous at all. Footsteps in powder? Cmon dude. Demonic voiceovers and a demon throwing him across the room? Where is the imagination?

Just admit you're a fanboy.

I said that I like ambiguity but LIKED that the movie, in the end, offered closure.

Fanboy? Bah, I saw 7 movies in the past week, I'm not a fanboy of a particular movie just a fan of movies...

Most eye opening film experience of the week? Barbarella. Jane Fonda's boobies in a PG movie? AWESOME.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: swbsam
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

No offense but I don't think any of these ideas would have made it a better movie, just a different and more conventional movie.

That's cool, glad you read it.

I actually thought this movie was very conventional. A ghost dragging her out of bed, demonic voiceover, a ouija board catching fire/scratching letters on the board, her cutting herself with a cross? All sucked IMO.

I think a pet would have been 10X scarier simply because many people have pets and they have human emotions/intelligence. There haven't been many movies out that have really captured the creepiness of a pet. But to each their own.

Are you retarded? Every creepy movie features at least one false scare involving a shrieking cat. How could you rationally say "this movie was ok but needed more pussy?"

hah. sorry, had to say that.

It could have been any pet, not just a cat. An older, larger dog would have been neat too. Make it loving/cuddly during the day. In fact, this polarity would work even better.

And for the record, name a movie that actually develops a pet's personality and then has it flip flop personalities throughout? I'm not talking about one stupid cat hissing, rofl.

 
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Originally posted by: SP33Demon

It could have been any pet, not just a cat. An older, larger dog would have been neat too. Make it loving/cuddly during the day. In fact, this polarity would work even better.

And for the record, name a movie that actually develops a pet's personality and then has it flip flop personalities throughout? I'm not talking about one stupid cat hissing, rofl.

{SPOILERS}

The thing is, the way the demonic presence in the house ramped up, any cat or dog would have been completely melting down within the first half hour (at least based on reactions we have seen by them in other movies). I actually liked the scene where they brought back the psychic toward the end - he was kind of our barometer for the severity of the haunting (a substitute for a pet in that way), and he was plainly terrified and wanted to leave immediately based on what he was feeling. That scene was not only a bit of comic relief, it confirmed our feeling that things had gotten completely out of control.
 

swbsam

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: swbsam
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

No offense but I don't think any of these ideas would have made it a better movie, just a different and more conventional movie.

That's cool, glad you read it.

I actually thought this movie was very conventional. A ghost dragging her out of bed, demonic voiceover, a ouija board catching fire/scratching letters on the board, her cutting herself with a cross? All sucked IMO.

I think a pet would have been 10X scarier simply because many people have pets and they have human emotions/intelligence. There haven't been many movies out that have really captured the creepiness of a pet. But to each their own.

Are you retarded? Every creepy movie features at least one false scare involving a shrieking cat. How could you rationally say "this movie was ok but needed more pussy?"

hah. sorry, had to say that.

It could have been any pet, not just a cat. An older, larger dog would have been neat too. Make it loving/cuddly during the day. In fact, this polarity would work even better.

And for the record, name a movie that actually develops a pet's personality and then has it flip flop personalities throughout? I'm not talking about one stupid cat hissing, rofl.

Dude, that's a different movie...
That's like me criticizing Ironman because Kate Winslet wasn't naked in it.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Originally posted by: SP33Demon

It could have been any pet, not just a cat. An older, larger dog would have been neat too. Make it loving/cuddly during the day. In fact, this polarity would work even better.

And for the record, name a movie that actually develops a pet's personality and then has it flip flop personalities throughout? I'm not talking about one stupid cat hissing, rofl.

{SPOILERS}

The thing is, the way the demonic presence in the house ramped up, any cat or dog would have been completely melting down within the first half hour (at least based on reactions we have seen by them in other movies). I actually liked the scene where they brought back the psychic toward the end - he was kind of our barometer for the severity of the haunting (a substitute for a pet in that way), and he was plainly terrified and wanted to leave immediately based on what he was feeling. That scene was not only a bit of comic relief, it confirmed our feeling that things had gotten completely out of control.

Definitely true, but what I'm saying is that I would have the pet act completely normal at times but then morph into an angry animal toward them and then morph back. It's indicative of the pet starting to be possessed, whereas in other movies the pet is either always possessed or just a barometer like you said.

 

Soundmanred

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I will say that while I did not enjoy this movie, there is one recnet scary movie that is a million times worse.
Wrong Turn 3.
A girl gets shot through the tit with an arrow and through the guys hand that is holding it.
I never thought I'd be sad to see boobs.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: swbsam
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: swbsam
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

No offense but I don't think any of these ideas would have made it a better movie, just a different and more conventional movie.

That's cool, glad you read it.

I actually thought this movie was very conventional. A ghost dragging her out of bed, demonic voiceover, a ouija board catching fire/scratching letters on the board, her cutting herself with a cross? All sucked IMO.

I think a pet would have been 10X scarier simply because many people have pets and they have human emotions/intelligence. There haven't been many movies out that have really captured the creepiness of a pet. But to each their own.

Are you retarded? Every creepy movie features at least one false scare involving a shrieking cat. How could you rationally say "this movie was ok but needed more pussy?"

hah. sorry, had to say that.

It could have been any pet, not just a cat. An older, larger dog would have been neat too. Make it loving/cuddly during the day. In fact, this polarity would work even better.

And for the record, name a movie that actually develops a pet's personality and then has it flip flop personalities throughout? I'm not talking about one stupid cat hissing, rofl.

Dude, that's a different movie...
That's like me criticizing Ironman because Kate Winslet wasn't naked in it.

I'm expressing what would have made the movie much more interesting/creepy/better as I described how I would have improved it. Make it unpredictably ambiguous with faint hints of factual evidence and ramp up the terror to an open ended ending. It's ok if you thought it was a great movie, I thought it was ok but with so much more potential. We all have different standards/opinions.
 

purbeast0

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SP33Demon, while i'm not ripping on your ideas, a lot of them basically remove what i liked about the movie.

and about the powder, i thought scene was pretty awesome. i especially loved when they zoomed in and you saw the foot prints did not have 5 toes and weren't a human feet, they looked like they had 3 long toes or something.

and i thought the scene where she was dragged out of bed was awesome. that was a pretty freaky scene IMO, especially because it genuinly looked like something was pulling her by her leg, but yu didn't see that something.

and the pet thing i don't really like in this movie or horror movies in general as someone else said.

2 movies i can think of off the top of my head with pets that are more than just a "jump out" scare are Church from pet semetary, and Cujo, from of course, Cujo.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
SP33Demon, while i'm not ripping on your ideas, a lot of them basically remove what i liked about the movie.

and about the powder, i thought scene was pretty awesome. i especially loved when they zoomed in and you saw the foot prints did not have 5 toes and weren't a human feet, they looked like they had 3 long toes or something.

and i thought the scene where she was dragged out of bed was awesome. that was a pretty freaky scene IMO, especially because it genuinly looked like something was pulling her by her leg, but yu didn't see that something.

and the pet thing i don't really like in this movie or horror movies in general as someone else said.

2 movies i can think of off the top of my head with pets that are more than just a "jump out" scare are Church from pet semetary, and Cujo, from of course, Cujo.

I dunno, I thought the powder scene was kind of cliche. Demons traditionally have three toes and they made it pretty clear from the beginning that it wasn't human but a demon.

The dragging part didn't impress me. The only part that was good was HOW they did it, i.e. unexpectedly and abruptly for "shock" value. I much prefer movies where ghosts don't cross into the physical realm 100%, it's much more realistic (e.g. poltergeists that can only generate enough energy to move things but nothing more). It's easier for the movie viewer to suspend disbelief without ramming something down their throats.

Well the two pets you mentioned are pretty obvious. You illustrated my point that it hasn't been replicated well in decades. This movie didn't have to focus around the pet, just use it as a channeling mechanism for the demon to communicate with the physical realm. Just like any other living thing that comes near the house, like kids trick or treating. Anyway, thanks for reading my suggestions.
 

BrownShoes

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Paranormal Pet

In a quiet New England town, a young family brings a puppy into their home and it all tragically goes wrong.
First, the puppy chokes out grandma and then pisses in all the drink containers in the fridge.
Next thing you know, he's run up the bills by ordering a ton of PPV movies, making long distance phone calls to Guatemala and running the sprinklers 24/7.
Finally, he assaults the son and the father gets blamed and put in jail.
At the end of the movie, the puppy appears over the mom's bed holding a knife in his paw.
In the finale, the puppy gets shot but they never find the body.

Scary shit!
 

swbsam

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Originally posted by: BrownShoes
Paranormal Pet

In a quiet New England town, a young family brings a puppy into their home and it all tragically goes wrong.
First, the puppy chokes out grandma and then pisses in all the drink containers in the fridge.
Next to thing you know, he's run up the bills by ordering a ton of PPV movies, making long distance phone calls to Guatemala and running the sprinklers 24/7.
Finally, he assaults the son and the father gets blamed and put in jail.
At the end of the movie, the puppy appears over the mom's bed holding a knife in his paw.
In the finale, the puppy gets shot but they never find the body.

Scary shit!

hahahah. i <3 u
 

BudAshes

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Drag me to hell was what a horror movie should be, this is just some cheap crap that will scare teenagers.
 

flexy

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>>
I actually thought this movie was very conventional. A ghost dragging her out of bed, demonic voiceover, a ouija board catching fire/scratching letters on the board, her cutting herself with a cross? All sucked IMO.
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The Ouija board on fire actually did it for me when i realized that the movie was actually way cheesy AND NOT so subtle as some actually claim.
Look, i also like the "subtle" horror, the psychological twists...and there are VERY, VERY few horror movies which are actually in that category.
99% of the horror movies are nothing than gore and CG - and thus dont actually really cause me to be scared, rather *disgusted*. I actually have a very hard time to name really GOOD and really scary movies now out of my head.

The movie started "ok" in a way that we knew "something was going on", in that subtle way where you are horrified because its unclear what will come.
But then he went that very cheesy route with the Ouija board on fire - and this is where i realized that he uses the SAME cliches like any other horror movie by S.King et. al - the movie went from the subtle horror to the cheap.

The other thing which annoyed me was about where she woke up in her sleep - while the "acting" (or lack thereof) was still convincing before, making you wonder whether its really "just a movie", it started to look very fake and lost credibility from there on.

As for him, i was annoyed since its very hard to believe that anyone who would *really* witness such events would

*) get up in the middle of the night (after they hear noises)..downstairs, and call "WHO'S THERE?" <---- little retarded, isnt it? Especially since they have "proof" on tape that paranormal things are going on.
In other words: You would probably rather ***t your pants, and not go downstairs and check for "intruders" and ask who's here. (What did he expect? A demon popping out and introducing himself? :) )
*) and of course that he insists to play with the Ouija board, despite the warnings and despite what they already have on tape.

From that point of view..the idea of the movie...ok...but stupid plot-"ideas" which are nothing else than cheap "shockers" to get the movie going.
 

Firsttime

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It was no where near what I was expecting. I mean seriously didn't Micah ever watch the Exorcist? Doesn't he know an Ouija board is only trouble haha? For real though, why on earth were they so isolated as soon as they got video of her being dragged out of bed I'm sure they could have found a large segment of society that would have taken them seriously and they would have made a crap load of money haha.
 

flexy

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Originally posted by: BudAshes
Drag me to hell was what a horror movie should be, this is just some cheap crap that will scare teenagers.

DmtH was "ok", also, i liked "The Mist" very much if we're talking about recent movies. Another pretty good one: The Descent.

I dont list any of the zillions of splatter/halloween/freddy movies since i dont think they're really *scary* in a sense.

Then of course we have the classics by Roman Polansky, the whole Exorcist Series, Rosemarie's Baby, The Omen etc.... some really wicked stuff.

Will people talk about P.A. in 10 years still...? I highly, highly doubt it.
 

tailes151

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Originally posted by: BudAshes
Drag me to hell was what a horror movie should be, this is just some cheap crap that will scare teenagers.

Wow, really? I just watched Drag me to hell the other night (which I was super psyched for) and thought it was garbage. I really liked paranormal activity on the other hand.
 

swbsam

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Originally posted by: tailes151
Originally posted by: BudAshes
Drag me to hell was what a horror movie should be, this is just some cheap crap that will scare teenagers.

Wow, really? I just watched Drag me to hell the other night (which I was super psyched for) and thought it was garbage. I really liked paranormal activity on the other hand.

:( I tried to love DMtH.. I really tried so hard to forgive it's flaws.. But it was an instantly forgettable movie going experience
 

de8212

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I saw it last night. I watched the "screener" version and thought it was pretty decent. Sure, there were some parts I thought could have been done different but all in all it was definitely a good change when compared to "slasher" movies.

I'm also very interested in seeing how the theatrical release differed.
 

Fritzo

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Ah, another "Prove to me that something is good, even though I've already made up my mind" thread.
 

xboxist

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Ultimately, with a complete lack of visual effects (except until the very end), the impact of the movie boils down to:

-- acting
-- quality of sound effects
-- creativity

I thought the movie did what it set out to do, even though I wasn't particularly scared while watching it. And I have to be honest, the chick's cleavage scenes kept me slightly more interested than I otherwise would have been.

In my mind, "Poltergeist" is the ultimate paranormal film. However, that movie relied on heavy visuals of course.

 

Raduque

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I can safely say I am not surprised by some of the responses in this thread after seeing the immensely boring "trailer" on the PA website.