Paranoid sister, won't let me fix her computer

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: txxxx

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: txxxx
If your that worried, route your internet connection via another system, apply QOS to it, then set the default gateway in the DHCP server to your new , traffic shaped gateway. As soon as her PC becomes active, it'll re-route into the traffic shaped gateway, giving p2p very low priority. And she wont know whats gone on.

I was thinking of that but I have netlimiter installed so connections are too much of a problem. But the thing that scares me most is she is too dumb to understand that half the crap she downloads could very well be viruses, and when norton DOES detect a virus she acts like it's an every day thing! I'm worried she will infect our network. I don't have any antivirus software on two on my computers because I'm smart, I've configured IE correctly and I don't download garbage like she does but if she gets a network virus and it screws up my two rocksolid stable systems I'll have a nervous BREAK DOWN!

Then have the firewall ignore everything coming from her system and any other untrusted MAC ID's...and dont do it at IP address level, MAC level just incase the DHCP assigns a new IP to it.

And as for netlimiter, bollocks to that, you dont want to deal with every incoming connection.

An easy path would be to purchase a LinkSys WRT54G/S and use the sveasoft firmware with it, as it has some superb QOS features.

The more teadious (and I think more inefficient path) would be to use a linux based OS and use something like wondershaper or similar. Although I think that might be overkill unless it's going to do something more useful.

Edit: No antivirus , and still using IE makes you very dumb.

IE is perfectly fine if you properly configure it! People think and I guess they should think that things should work out of the box but IT DOESN'T, just like windows XP, you have to configure it. You can run a system with out antivirus and be perfectly fine, antivirus software is for the lazy/ignorant. Last time I got a virus on a 98 machine norton couldn't even detect it! I had to chase it down in the registry and was finally able to remove the dang thing (network virus which originated from a ME machine). I run a check on my system from my laptop (which has norton) every once and a while but still can't find any viruses...

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: skyking
If you are really worried and cannot deny her a net connection, put her on a different class c. You can build a three NIC firewall box and let her go wild.

might want to rephrase that no?

 

[txxxx]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: skyking
If you are really worried and cannot deny her a net connection, put her on a different class c. You can build a three NIC firewall box and let her go wild.

might want to rephrase that no?

C class = xxx.xxx.xxx. IP range

Different range. Smoothwall can do this.

 

[txxxx]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: txxxx

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: txxxx
If your that worried, route your internet connection via another system, apply QOS to it, then set the default gateway in the DHCP server to your new , traffic shaped gateway. As soon as her PC becomes active, it'll re-route into the traffic shaped gateway, giving p2p very low priority. And she wont know whats gone on.

I was thinking of that but I have netlimiter installed so connections are too much of a problem. But the thing that scares me most is she is too dumb to understand that half the crap she downloads could very well be viruses, and when norton DOES detect a virus she acts like it's an every day thing! I'm worried she will infect our network. I don't have any antivirus software on two on my computers because I'm smart, I've configured IE correctly and I don't download garbage like she does but if she gets a network virus and it screws up my two rocksolid stable systems I'll have a nervous BREAK DOWN!

Then have the firewall ignore everything coming from her system and any other untrusted MAC ID's...and dont do it at IP address level, MAC level just incase the DHCP assigns a new IP to it.

And as for netlimiter, bollocks to that, you dont want to deal with every incoming connection.

An easy path would be to purchase a LinkSys WRT54G/S and use the sveasoft firmware with it, as it has some superb QOS features.

The more teadious (and I think more inefficient path) would be to use a linux based OS and use something like wondershaper or similar. Although I think that might be overkill unless it's going to do something more useful.

Edit: No antivirus , and still using IE makes you very dumb.

IE is perfectly fine if you properly configure it! People think and I guess they should think that things should work out of the box but IT DOESN'T, just like windows XP, you have to configure it. You can run a system with out antivirus and be perfectly fine, antivirus software is for the lazy/ignorant. Last time I got a virus on a 98 machine norton couldn't even detect it! I had to chase it down in the registry and was finally able to remove the dang thing (network virus which originated from a ME machine). I run a check on my system from my laptop (which has norton) every once and a while but still can't find any viruses...

It doesnt matter how well you configure IE, there'll be some exploit that will walk right past these "configurations". If IE could be configured to be safe, many wouldnt be flocking to Firefox and co in a hurry.

And as for viruses, they can come from anywhere, anything. E.g. that Divx codec server could be cracked and you could have an infected system as you wasnt aware of it.

Edit : Norton's come along way, although NOD32 wins in the wild detection thoroughly.

 

[Philippine Mango]

Agian I scan my system every once in a while, just to make sure. Norton has only detected 80% of the viruses I've ever had so some track record...:roll:

 

[eelw]

Originally posted by: txxxx

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: skyking
If you are really worried and cannot deny her a net connection, put her on a different class c. You can build a three NIC firewall box and let her go wild.

might want to rephrase that no?

C class = xxx.xxx.xxx. IP range

Different range. Smoothwall can do this.

Placing that computer on a separate subnet should be fine.

 

[thecrecarc]

okay when she asks just say no and leave! god deal with it! and if her computer breaks down well to bad for her! then point at her and laugh. and if ug et a virus from her computer use that as a excuse to take her of the network!

 

[Mandos]

I know plenty of people like this. More power to them, it lets us not be bothered by fvckoffs who don't know how to work their own PC's and calling us REAL guru's for effing tech support.

 

[cerebusPu]

maybe your sister has a crush on that guy, so she listens to everyhting he says

 

[tm37]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
i would think she is stupid, but then again, im not sure i would trust you with my computer either

If your on this forum, I'm sure you would trust me. But then agian, if your on this forum why would you need MY help? I wouldn't be surprised if YOU know how to fix most of your problems on your computer anyway. When people become experienced to a certain point and don't have an ego trip, they can learn from each other and its not difficult to explain what your trying to do/attempt to do. For the ignorant, it's a much different story and it's impossible to explain anything.

WOW I mean


WOW

Really being a member of an internet forum for 2 months does not make you a computer god, Even if you read all the threads.

I did a search just to see where your strengths lie and to be honest I just didn't see any.

Really I would not trust you to USE my computer after reading a few of your posts much less try and fix it.

 

[skyking]

different subnets are cool, but if the netmask is opened up, then you lose your protection. I probably suggested a "way too complicated" solution.

 

[eelw]

Originally posted by: skyking
different subnets are cool, but if the netmask is opened up, then you lose your protection. I probably suggested a "way too complicated" solution.

As if the OP's sister is smart enough to know how to do a supernet mask.

 

[Fingers]

Who cares, unless it's hurting your ego let her deal with him. Worse thing that can happen is she learns the hard way he doesn't know what he is talking about.

 

[Toki]

wait until something goes wrong, then laugh. she will probably ask you for help the next time afterwards.

 

[herkulease]

firstly how old are you two? just curious

You seem like you need the attention or something from your sister when it comes to the computer. Ignore it. Just interfere when she's obviously throwing money away. I could care less people in my family trust some high schooler at best buy over me. Its not my money. I simply tell them, its wrong/cheaper etc if they want to go with it go right ahead. when something goes wrong its low priority on my list.

Though I will personally admit there are things those best buy people would know more than me. but its mainly new stuff like tablet pcs(when they first came out) or what not that I never had the chance to fiddle around with myself.

 

[cheapgoose]

lol....you bring this on yourself. stop helping your sister. and by the way, she's probably banging that guy too. or maybe she just thinks your an idiot.

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: tm37

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
i would think she is stupid, but then again, im not sure i would trust you with my computer either

If your on this forum, I'm sure you would trust me. But then agian, if your on this forum why would you need MY help? I wouldn't be surprised if YOU know how to fix most of your problems on your computer anyway. When people become experienced to a certain point and don't have an ego trip, they can learn from each other and its not difficult to explain what your trying to do/attempt to do. For the ignorant, it's a much different story and it's impossible to explain anything.

WOW I mean


WOW

Really being a member of an internet forum for 2 months does not make you a computer god, Even if you read all the threads.

I did a search just to see where your strengths lie and to be honest I just didn't see any.

Really I would not trust you to USE my computer after reading a few of your posts much less try and fix it.

Yea and also being on an internet forum DOESN'T mean I learned all of my skills FROM IT. A certain point I define is when you have fairly good knowledge about the computer all around like building a system from scratch and being able to identify MOST components, also knowing how to troubleshoot your system. I learned most of my stuff from experience and reading books and NOT from being on a forum.

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: herkulease
firstly how old are you two? just curious

You seem like you need the attention or something from your sister when it comes to the computer. Ignore it. Just interfere when she's obviously throwing money away. I could care less people in my family trust some high schooler at best buy over me. Its not my money. I simply tell them, its wrong/cheaper etc if they want to go with it go right ahead. when something goes wrong its low priority on my list.

Though I will personally admit there are things those best buy people would know more than me. but its mainly new stuff like tablet pcs(when they first came out) or what not that I never had the chance to fiddle around with myself.

Actually the guy is older than her and me, because of that she thinks he knows "more than me".

First half of bold, seems like thats where I should keep my involvement at, just interfere when she makes stupid purchases/attempts? She want's a new computer because her 1.5GHZ P4 is not "fast enough" and is doing video encoding. I really just want to build her that encoding system and just not deal with her anymore. The 1.5GHZ P4 sony desktop system is really the source of her b!tchin because it's terribly unstable (thats sony).

Second half of bold, did you have bad experiences with highschoolers at best buy or something? What did they tell them? I haven't seen any kid talking out of his a$$ at bestbuy so this may be a fluke?