Paramount's going HD-DVD Exclusive

[Reckoner]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Pantoot

Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Thanks Paramount. For a second there, I was thinking the format war would end early.:roll:

Agreed.
HOORAY! People will not be able to watch the movies that they want and the kids will be sad.

yea really. why is exclusivity a good thing again?

It's good if you want that format to "win."

I asked in a previous thread why people want HD-DVD to win so badly considering that the two formats are very similar with the exception that Blu-Ray has higher capacity. I don't recall all of the answers I got... cost was one of them, although I think they'd both level off at the same cost after the early adopter phase. I think there was something about DRM and/or region coding too... and Sony hate of course.

Triple-Layer discs can be made for HD-DVD, holding in upwards of 51gb, there just hasn't been a need for it yet. So I don't see why everyone touts Blu-Rays capacity.

 

[Phokus]

I don't see HD-DVD winning, Sony is a major studio and they will never switch to HD-DVD.

 

[Yongsta]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Pantoot

Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Thanks Paramount. For a second there, I was thinking the format war would end early.:roll:

Agreed.
HOORAY! People will not be able to watch the movies that they want and the kids will be sad.

yea really. why is exclusivity a good thing again?

It's good if you want that format to "win."

I asked in a previous thread why people want HD-DVD to win so badly considering that the two formats are very similar with the exception that Blu-Ray has higher capacity. I don't recall all of the answers I got... cost was one of them, although I think they'd both level off at the same cost after the early adopter phase. I think there was something about DRM and/or region coding too... and Sony hate of course.

Triple-Layer discs can be made for HD-DVD, holding in upwards of 75gb, there just hasn't been a need for it yet. So I don't see why everyone touts Blu-Rays capacity.

Actually it's 51gb, and I think Blu-ray could do something similar and make higher capacity as well.

 

[Reckoner]

Originally posted by: Phokus
I don't see HD-DVD winning, Sony is a major studio and they will never switch to HD-DVD.

I'm sure people said the same thing with Betamax =P

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Phokus
I don't see HD-DVD winning, Sony is a major studio and they will never switch to HD-DVD.

Neither side has to win. Someone just needs to come out with affordable dual-format players and the debate will be as academic as DVD+R vs DVD-R.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
If that were true, then BD wouldn't be outselling HD-DVD like it is. People really aren't buying the HD-DVD add-on....largely because they don't want to sink in another $180 on their initial system purchase when there's no clear winner, thus no guarantee of future support/releases.

Give it time. Remember that the average of house hold out there doesn't own a BD or HD player yet. The market is too fresh to rely heavily on statistics right now. It may be easier after Christmas this year.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Phokus
I don't see HD-DVD winning, Sony is a major studio and they will never switch to HD-DVD.

Neither side has to win. Someone just needs to come out with affordable dual-format players and the debate will be as academic as DVD+R vs DVD-R.

:thumbsup:

Here is the money maker talking right here. I really hope that happens. Format wars suck for the consumer no matter who is winning or losing.

 

[dainthomas]

Which format (if either) do pr0n studios use?

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

Damn I just bought a PS3 recently thinking Bluray was gonna win out in the end.

 

[Electric Amish]

That's ok....

I still don't have an HDTV, let alone an HD or BD player.

Then there's the whole consideration of replacing my 250+ DVDs.. 🙁


EDIT-

I also have no idea of the pros/cons of either format...

 

[Yongsta]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: Phokus
I don't see HD-DVD winning, Sony is a major studio and they will never switch to HD-DVD.

I'm sure people said the same thing with Betamax =P

Back then there was no Sony Pictures though (Sony bought Columbia & Tristar Pictures in 1989).

 

[Yongsta]

Originally posted by: dainthomas
Which format (if either) do pr0n studios use?

I believe they use both? I'm not too sure though.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: Yongsta

Originally posted by: dainthomas
Which format (if either) do pr0n studios use?

I believe they use both? I'm not too sure though.

Well, there goes that indicator. 🙁

Not sure how much of that stuff would look better in HD anyway.

 

[Ctrackstar126]

Originally posted by: Xavier434
I haven't been following this format war because I hate these things, but I am guessing that HD will win simply because Microsoft has so much money and power to shift the market a certain direction. The difference in sales between the 360 and PS3 alone will make a big difference here.

I'd be willing to guess that Sony has just as much money to sink into hi def content.

 

[yowolabi]

I have a 360, and i've been holding off on buying a hd-dvd player simply because it didn't seem like they could win with less studio support. This isn't good news for me though. I would rather blu-ray won and buy a ps3/blu ray player after they dropped in price, than have to wait years for a winner or have to own two different players.

All this insures is that i'll stick with dvds for a long time.

 

[lokiju]

I'm glad to hear this and simply because HD DVD is cheaper for players and movies than BD.

Not that it really matters all that much to me at this point anyways. I'm going to wait until there is only one choice available before I buy.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: lokiju
I'm glad to hear this and simply because HD DVD is cheaper for players and movies than BD.

Not that it really matters all that much to me at this point anyways. I'm going to wait until there is only one choice available before I buy.

I don't know about that price thing there.

I went to Target on lunch to get 300 on BluRay and it was $25, whereas the HD-DVD one was $35.

I know target is not the end all be all, but I just thought I'd put that out there because I too always heard that HD-DVD was cheaper.

 

[zoiks]

yeahaaaa!!

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: lokiju
I'm glad to hear this and simply because HD DVD is cheaper for players and movies than BD.

Not that it really matters all that much to me at this point anyways. I'm going to wait until there is only one choice available before I buy.

I don't know about that price thing there.

I went to Target on lunch to get 300 on BluRay and it was $25, whereas the HD-DVD one was $35.

I know target is not the end all be all, but I just thought I'd put that out there because I too always heard that HD-DVD was cheaper.

I believe the MSRP on Blu-Ray is typically higher than HD DVD. But stores price things differently so you'll see them at different pricing levels. The HD DVD version of 300 has the DVD version on it as well though. That usually moves the price of the HD DVD version of a movie higher than the Blu-Ray version.

 

[aldamon]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

I went to Target on lunch to get 300 on BluRay and it was $25, whereas the HD-DVD one was $35.

Ouch. Rentals FTW.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: dainthomas
Which format (if either) do pr0n studios use?

NA is HD-DVD, JN is BRD

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: Ctrackstar126

Originally posted by: Xavier434
I haven't been following this format war because I hate these things, but I am guessing that HD will win simply because Microsoft has so much money and power to shift the market a certain direction. The difference in sales between the 360 and PS3 alone will make a big difference here.

I'd be willing to guess that Sony has just as much money to sink into hi def content.

wrong, they lost their shirt on PSX3

 

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: lokiju
I'm glad to hear this and simply because HD DVD is cheaper for players and movies than BD.

Not that it really matters all that much to me at this point anyways. I'm going to wait until there is only one choice available before I buy.

I don't know about that price thing there.

I went to Target on lunch to get 300 on BluRay and it was $25, whereas the HD-DVD one was $35.

I know target is not the end all be all, but I just thought I'd put that out there because I too always heard that HD-DVD was cheaper.

300 was more expensive on hd-dvd because it was a combo disc. one side was hd-dvd, other side contained dvd version.

for 5 bucks more it isn't bad.

queasy beat me to that.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Queasy
I believe the MSRP on Blu-Ray is typically higher than HD DVD. But stores price things differently so you'll see them at different pricing levels. The HD DVD version of 300 has the DVD version on it as well though. That usually moves the price of the HD DVD version of a movie higher than the Blu-Ray version.

This is also a major reason why HD will probably win. People are holding off for the war to end and they also shudder at the thought of replacing large DVD collections. Buying a disk which allows them to continue increasing their collection and possibly use the HD version later is a very good reason for them to spend the extra $10. If they don't feel the $10 is worth it, then they will probably just buy a regular DVD anyways because they don't care. To my knowledge, having both on the same disk is relatively new which is another reason why I am not relying on statistics much yet.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Yongsta

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Pantoot

Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Thanks Paramount. For a second there, I was thinking the format war would end early.:roll:

Agreed.
HOORAY! People will not be able to watch the movies that they want and the kids will be sad.

yea really. why is exclusivity a good thing again?

It's good if you want that format to "win."

I asked in a previous thread why people want HD-DVD to win so badly considering that the two formats are very similar with the exception that Blu-Ray has higher capacity. I don't recall all of the answers I got... cost was one of them, although I think they'd both level off at the same cost after the early adopter phase. I think there was something about DRM and/or region coding too... and Sony hate of course.

Triple-Layer discs can be made for HD-DVD, holding in upwards of 75gb, there just hasn't been a need for it yet. So I don't see why everyone touts Blu-Rays capacity.

Actually it's 51gb, and I think Blu-ray could do something similar and make higher capacity as well.

and that 51gb disc is useless in current players, since its more than 15gb per layer. A true triple-layer HD-DVD would be 45gb.
A triple layer BD would be 75gb. Your point Paul? 😉

this format war just needs to end, because the longer the customer base is confused, and the more you piss them off, then the adoption rate will slow down.
I was hoping all these successes for BD were going to kill HD-DVD once and for all. It's not just because I have a BD player (PS3), its because its better for the market. Once a single format stands alone, eventually the prices will fall and all movies will be available, and then adoption rate would sky-rocket.