Palin: "US Should Re-Dictate God's Will"

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WTF?? Blogspot.com----->

When you get down from your high or sober up, perhaps you can see that i was replying to someone and did it point by point?

BTW, would you mind entering a case study to prove that THC does indeed make people stupid?
 
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I actually cannot remember the exact quote or what passage it was in but i can give you enough to make a google search easy for you, is that ok?

Jesus objected to hypocrasy amongst followers and asked why they did not follow Gods law and stoned their children for their disobediance.

I hope that helps you find the passage.

I might be wrong but i think it's somewhere in Matthew.
Me thinks that you might want to find the passage yourself and brush up on your reading comprehension skills. Who knows...maybe you'll learn something.
 

jonks

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edit: Sorry ... misspelled 'rededicate' in the title and can't figure out how to fix it ....

Go the the P&N front page.
Find this thread in the list.
Double click somewhere on empty space in the same cell as the heading.
Fix it.
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Profit.
 
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heyheybooboo

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Go the the P&N front page.
Find this thread in the list.
Double click somewhere on empty space in the same cell as the heading.
Fix it.
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Profit.

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Muse

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edit: Sorry ... misspelled 'rededicate' in the title and can't figure out how to fix it ....

You can't fix it. It will go on your permanent record and you are certain to be banished from Heaven. Too bad. Your only chance is to make a deal with Lucifer. :twisted:
 

Vic

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There is nothing more ridiculously hypocritical than self-labeled "small government" conservatives pushing for govt-enforced faith.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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But when it comes to religion the goal is ignorance.


And it seems he's achieved his goal.

The context which he didn't bother to get is that the Pharisees were bitching at Jesus because he and his disciples didn't comply with tradition.

The Pharisees considered themselves children of God, an elect, however they were so insistent on following biblical law that they would condemn Jesus healing on the Sabbath among other things.

In that they were showing disrespect for their Father, and therefore worthy of the punishment that Isiah prescribed.

If they condemned Jesus for not having his followers wash before eating, then by their own logic they should be stoned. The Law is the Law after all.

Of course JOS says that it means Jesus was upset with the Pharisees for not stoning their children, which is incredibly stupid. If he was pissed about that, why did he prevent the stoning of others?

As you say, the goal was ignorance. Mission accomplished.
 
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Vic

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I thought that it was more or less an accepted fact now that Jesus was a pharisee.

IMO the genuine message of Jesus for His time is best exemplified in the story of Barabbas. But then again, it is my opinion that early Christianity, starting from Jesus Himself, was a form of peaceful revolution against the tyranny of Roman rule. And hey, it was successful...
 

Lemon law

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Well I think Palin has a point. And I am getting bullish on Palin.

But to explain why, you have to understand my religion. And one if its sacraments occurs on the first Tuesday of October in years that are evenly divisible by two.

As a great conclave meets to choose a female vestal non virgin that most epidermises the following. She must be good looking, she must be vain and conceited, she must have a big mouth, and be a shameless self promoter who thinks she is holier than thou.

Once such a worthy candidate is selected, the second Tuesday of October is the day to cast the worthy candidate into the nearest erupting Volcano. While such a religious ceremony may not cause prosperity and bumper crops, it does wonders to reduce noise pollution.

Dedicate your life to my God and vote for Sarah Palin this coming October. The only question is which volcano will be erupting at the time.
 

BoberFett

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As a great conclave meets to choose a female vestal non virgin that most epidermises the following. She must be good looking, she must be vain and conceited, she must have a big mouth, and be a shameless self promoter who thinks she is holier than thou.

If you hadn't said good looking, I'd have guessed you were talking about Hillary Clinton...
 
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Me thinks that you might want to find the passage yourself and brush up on your reading comprehension skills. Who knows...maybe you'll learn something.

Since i can only use certain pages on the web from where i am (and most search engines that are the least bit useful are not among those pages) i had to ask someone else to look it up.

Mark 7:9

"You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! For Moses said, 'Honor your father and your mother,' and, 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.' But you say that if a man says to his father or mother: 'Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is Corban' (that is, a gift devoted to God), then you no longer let him do anything for his father or mother.Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that."
 
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Not a chance. Context isn't important when the goal is ignorance.

That would be all well if there were no evangelicals like Collins who demand literary interpretations.

Of course, i know that most people will explain away anything and everything, pick and choose and accuse everyone who do not agree with their version an imposter or "not a real Christian".

But feel free to interpret what Jesus said in Mark 7:9, i'm sure there are millions of interpretations but if you read the actual text he did indeed call the Jews hypocrits for not stoning their disobediant children.
 

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You can't fix it. It will go on your permanent record and you are certain to be banished from Heaven. Too bad. Your only chance is to make a deal with Lucifer. :twisted:

Methinks my record is now of such substantial state that it may be referred to as a permanent album, most likely a 'double' (do they still make those?)

And I would hate to make Lucifer sweat :eek:
 

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Since i can only use certain pages on the web from where i am (and most search engines that are the least bit useful are not among those pages) i had to ask someone else to look it up.

Mark 7:9

"You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! For Moses said, 'Honor your father and your mother,' and, 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.' But you say that if a man says to his father or mother: 'Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is Corban' (that is, a gift devoted to God), then you no longer let him do anything for his father or mother.Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that."

So let me see. Some religious people who are idiots take one verse without context and expand into anything they want, and you not wanting to be outdone did the same.

So since you know just what was going on without doing any thinking or research on your own can explain the difference between the Pharisees (who you won't know anything about without resorting to Google) and the general Jewish public, and you'll be able to reconcile it with the beginning of the chapter where this came about because the Pharisees were on Jesus ass for not following The Rules. Then you'll certainly be able to explain why Jesus stopped the stoning of the adultress, (you have read up on that one, haven't you? I mean being expert on Christ and all).

We're all aquiver with expectation.

Just how much of the New Testament have you read anyway?
 

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I didn't catch the context of Vic's thread and I think Palin is an idiot so who knows what she meant, but she didn't mention anything about government. She was talking about individuals acting collectively to "get back to God" which is a romantic notion which never really existed.

It's akin to someone saying "we need to respect the Flag and renew our Patriotism"... blah blah blah.

Whatever.

Now if she wanted to actually use government to enforce any religion she needs to grow some nads so we can kick her in them.
 
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So let me see. Some religious people who are idiots take one verse without context and expand into anything they want, and you not wanting to be outdone did the same.

So since you know just what was going on without doing any thinking or research on your own can explain the difference between the Pharisees (who you won't know anything about without resorting to Google) and the general Jewish public, and you'll be able to reconcile it with the beginning of the chapter where this came about because the Pharisees were on Jesus ass for not following The Rules. Then you'll certainly be able to explain why Jesus stopped the stoning of the adultress, (you have read up on that one, haven't you? I mean being expert on Christ and all).

We're all aquiver with expectation.

Just how much of the New Testament have you read anyway?

I said i knew in my first post, i just couldn't remember the exact quote or verse off hand, perhaps you can recite the entire Bible but i can't.

I like how you do exactly what i said that everyone does, you pick and choose, some things are literal (good things) other things don't mean what they say (bad things).

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone? No, of course not, and being of Jewish descent of course i don't know my history either.

If your faith is so weak that you have to question ME to feel better about it, then it's useless.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Faith or lack thereof isn't the issue but having an understanding of something one expresses a strong opinion. Did you know frogs become deaf if you cut off all their limbs? I can "prove" it.

If you pound a table on which a frog rests it jumps. Remove both forelimbs and it still jumps. Leave it with just one leg and it still tries although badly. Cut that last one and it doesn't move at all. Deaf as a stone.

Well that's ridiculous of course but if one really wants to stick with it, one could. Just ignore everything else and pound the table.

That isn't religion, it's intellectual laziness. In battle that gets you killed, in academia it gets you ridicule, and in medicine it gets someone else dead.

One can argue the merits of anything, but doing so without making an attempt to grasp the situation makes less than no sense.

In this case you isolate one verse, yet if you made an effort to think about what was written you would have dismissed your line of thought immediately.

Consider that the same book you use as evidence says that he healed the sick, raised the dead, ate with tax collectors, prostitutes and all manner of the "unclean", protected an adulteress from being stoned and then out of the clear blue yelled at those who condemned him because they didn't stone their kids? How can you even put forward a reasonable argument in that context?

You don't have me down on you because you don't like Christians but because you fell back on the absurd.

I'll even help you. If you want to fault Christianity as it's practiced by some look at Family Life Network who went into Uganda where brutality was the norm and like complete tools vilified gays so well that they can be imprisoned or executed. Now that's an argument based on something. I didn't have to fall back on specious reasoning. .
 
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