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Palin Proposed Book Banning As Mayor

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Originally posted by: TechAZ

lol, NYT is a joke....not sure how anyone can take that piece of shit newspaper serious anymore. Frontpage hit piece on Palin, with 1 person as a source and it's wrong? Even the NYT is caught up in the desperation, they know this is no slam dunk for their messiah.

Sure it is. Because it's so large and so respected it is a frequent target of attack by the far right. Everyone else thinks it's an incredibly good newspaper.
 
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: TechAZ

lol, NYT is a joke....not sure how anyone can take that piece of shit newspaper serious anymore. Frontpage hit piece on Palin, with 1 person as a source and it's wrong? Even the NYT is caught up in the desperation, they know this is no slam dunk for their messiah.

Sure it is. Because it's so large and so respected it is a frequent target of attack by the far right. Everyone else thinks it's an incredibly good newspaper.

So a well respected newspaper goes with the decision to put out a negative front page story with 1 source (who was wrong). I can definitely see where they deserve respect.
 
Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: TechAZ

lol, NYT is a joke....not sure how anyone can take that piece of shit newspaper serious anymore. Frontpage hit piece on Palin, with 1 person as a source and it's wrong? Even the NYT is caught up in the desperation, they know this is no slam dunk for their messiah.

Sure it is. Because it's so large and so respected it is a frequent target of attack by the far right. Everyone else thinks it's an incredibly good newspaper.

So a well respected newspaper goes with the decision to put out a negative front page story with 1 source (who was wrong). I can definitely see where they deserve respect.
So you support banning books?

 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
yllus... Edwards affair was mentioned in the National Enquirer in October 2007.

Despite this the media sat on its hands for 9 months.

The New York Times has no problem printing false allegations against Palin, that she was as member of the Alaskan Independence Party, but did not say one thing about Edwards affair. Why the double standard?

The same edition of the Enquirer also had a story on dogs fucking the Pope. (No fault of mine!) It's one thing to publish rumours and hearsay - it's quite another to get a statement from one of the parties involved to confirm a story. That's the difference between a tabloid and a generally respected newspaper.
Proof ?? Or just made up BS to discredit the Enquirer??

If the Enquirer can find out that Edwards why couldn't the New York Times??

Man, what a waste of an excellent HST quote. 🙁 Maybe I shouldn't have put "no fault of mine" in parenthesis.

You're right, I'm impugning the name of the esteemed National Enquirer because I'm rabidly anti-Alaskan. They're a paper known for their accuracy, aside from that Ted Kennedy lovechild lawsuit.

Or that one brought by Gary Condit.

Or Kate Hudson.

Or Britney Spears.

It's actually a grand conspiracy at work to discredit leading news organizations like the Enquirer. Bastard Hollywood celebrities are probably just in on it.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: TechAZ

lol, NYT is a joke....not sure how anyone can take that piece of shit newspaper serious anymore. Frontpage hit piece on Palin, with 1 person as a source and it's wrong? Even the NYT is caught up in the desperation, they know this is no slam dunk for their messiah.

Sure it is. Because it's so large and so respected it is a frequent target of attack by the far right. Everyone else thinks it's an incredibly good newspaper.

So a well respected newspaper goes with the decision to put out a negative front page story with 1 source (who was wrong). I can definitely see where they deserve respect.
So you support banning books?

No, just banning newspapers.
 
Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: TechAZ

lol, NYT is a joke....not sure how anyone can take that piece of shit newspaper serious anymore. Frontpage hit piece on Palin, with 1 person as a source and it's wrong? Even the NYT is caught up in the desperation, they know this is no slam dunk for their messiah.

Sure it is. Because it's so large and so respected it is a frequent target of attack by the far right. Everyone else thinks it's an incredibly good newspaper.

So a well respected newspaper goes with the decision to put out a negative front page story with 1 source (who was wrong). I can definitely see where they deserve respect.

I'm glad you understand how editorial decision making takes place, recognize that every paper occasionally makes mistakes, and have corrected your statement.
 
Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: TechAZ

lol, NYT is a joke....not sure how anyone can take that piece of shit newspaper serious anymore. Frontpage hit piece on Palin, with 1 person as a source and it's wrong? Even the NYT is caught up in the desperation, they know this is no slam dunk for their messiah.

Sure it is. Because it's so large and so respected it is a frequent target of attack by the far right. Everyone else thinks it's an incredibly good newspaper.

So a well respected newspaper goes with the decision to put out a negative front page story with 1 source (who was wrong). I can definitely see where they deserve respect.
So you support banning books?

No, just banning newspapers.
You make for a good Republican little Wingnut.

 
Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: TechAZ

lol, NYT is a joke....not sure how anyone can take that piece of shit newspaper serious anymore. Frontpage hit piece on Palin, with 1 person as a source and it's wrong? Even the NYT is caught up in the desperation, they know this is no slam dunk for their messiah.

Sure it is. Because it's so large and so respected it is a frequent target of attack by the far right. Everyone else thinks it's an incredibly good newspaper.

So a well respected newspaper goes with the decision to put out a negative front page story with 1 source (who was wrong). I can definitely see where they deserve respect.

I think the NYT will survive your bias. 🙂

I think there is some middle ground here where you can say the NYT fvcked up and got caught up in the hype...instead of drawing an irrational conclusion that they are a "piece of shit newspaper." Again, I think a globally respected news organization like the NYT will survive the partisan bitterness.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: TechAZ

lol, NYT is a joke....not sure how anyone can take that piece of shit newspaper serious anymore. Frontpage hit piece on Palin, with 1 person as a source and it's wrong? Even the NYT is caught up in the desperation, they know this is no slam dunk for their messiah.

Sure it is. Because it's so large and so respected it is a frequent target of attack by the far right. Everyone else thinks it's an incredibly good newspaper.

So a well respected newspaper goes with the decision to put out a negative front page story with 1 source (who was wrong). I can definitely see where they deserve respect.
So you support banning books?

No, just banning newspapers.
You make for a good Republican little Wingnut.

:thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: TechAZ

lol, NYT is a joke....not sure how anyone can take that piece of shit newspaper serious anymore. Frontpage hit piece on Palin, with 1 person as a source and it's wrong? Even the NYT is caught up in the desperation, they know this is no slam dunk for their messiah.

Sure it is. Because it's so large and so respected it is a frequent target of attack by the far right. Everyone else thinks it's an incredibly good newspaper.

Yep, it's only being attacked because it is so large and so respected-- it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they will publish a front-page article critical of Palin without fact-checking it, all based on a single source whom they had obviously never worked with before and could not vouch for. They didn't even give the appearance of fact-checking it-- nope, the fact that somebody simply said it made it fit enough to publish on their front page.

It took the New York Times less than 3 days to dig up as much dirt as they could on Palin, yet they sat on the John Edwards story (who by most accounts was a leading contender for the Democratic VP nomination) for 9 months.

The New York Times agenda is so obvious and transparent, and their readdership has suffered heavily as a result.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: TechAZ
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: TechAZ

lol, NYT is a joke....not sure how anyone can take that piece of shit newspaper serious anymore. Frontpage hit piece on Palin, with 1 person as a source and it's wrong? Even the NYT is caught up in the desperation, they know this is no slam dunk for their messiah.

Sure it is. Because it's so large and so respected it is a frequent target of attack by the far right. Everyone else thinks it's an incredibly good newspaper.

So a well respected newspaper goes with the decision to put out a negative front page story with 1 source (who was wrong). I can definitely see where they deserve respect.
So you support banning books?

Holy cow! Talk about coming out of nowhere with an irrelevant question!
 
Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: TechAZ

lol, NYT is a joke....not sure how anyone can take that piece of shit newspaper serious anymore. Frontpage hit piece on Palin, with 1 person as a source and it's wrong? Even the NYT is caught up in the desperation, they know this is no slam dunk for their messiah.

Sure it is. Because it's so large and so respected it is a frequent target of attack by the far right. Everyone else thinks it's an incredibly good newspaper.

Yep, it's only being attacked because it is so large and so respected-- it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they will publish a front-page article critical of Palin without fact-checking it, all based on a single source whom they had obviously never worked with before and could not vouch for. They didn't even give the appearance of fact-checking it-- nope, the fact that somebody simply said it made it fit enough to publish on their front page.

It took the New York Times less than 3 days to dig up as much dirt as they could on Palin, yet they sat on the John Edwards story (who by most accounts was a leading contender for the Democratic VP nomination) for 9 months.

The New York Times agenda is so obvious and transparent, and their readdership has suffered heavily as a result.

Sure it is. Do you have some sort of data to back up your assertion that the decline in NYT subscribership is: A.) More significant than the decline in newspaper readership across the board and B.) that it is due to a belief in political bias? I'm guessing the answer to that is no.

Look... it's fine. I know you guys don't like the NYT because you've been told over and over that it's some sort of liberal newspaper. If you actually read the paper however you will simply find it is a source of excellent journalism that is only rivaled by the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post in America today. You guys have all these conspiracy theories about how the paper operates that are built on nothing more then blog entries and talk radio, it's pathetic.

EDIT: What's also interesting is that the Enquirer is putting out a story now that says Palin tried to force her daughter to get married, and now they hate each other and are fighting. Should the NYT run that story too?
 
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: TechAZ

lol, NYT is a joke....not sure how anyone can take that piece of shit newspaper serious anymore. Frontpage hit piece on Palin, with 1 person as a source and it's wrong? Even the NYT is caught up in the desperation, they know this is no slam dunk for their messiah.

Sure it is. Because it's so large and so respected it is a frequent target of attack by the far right. Everyone else thinks it's an incredibly good newspaper.

Yep, it's only being attacked because it is so large and so respected-- it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they will publish a front-page article critical of Palin without fact-checking it, all based on a single source whom they had obviously never worked with before and could not vouch for. They didn't even give the appearance of fact-checking it-- nope, the fact that somebody simply said it made it fit enough to publish on their front page.

It took the New York Times less than 3 days to dig up as much dirt as they could on Palin, yet they sat on the John Edwards story (who by most accounts was a leading contender for the Democratic VP nomination) for 9 months.

The New York Times agenda is so obvious and transparent, and their readdership has suffered heavily as a result.

Sure it is. Do you have some sort of data to back up your assertion that the decline in NYT subscribership is: A.) More significant than the decline in newspaper readership across the board and B.) that it is due to a belief in political bias? I'm guessing the answer to that is no.

Look... it's fine. I know you guys don't like the NYT because you've been told over and over that it's some sort of liberal newspaper. If you actually read the paper however you will simply find it is a source of excellent journalism that is only rivaled by the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post in America today. You guys have all these conspiracy theories about how the paper operates that are built on nothing more then blog entries and talk radio, it's pathetic.

Actually we just realize that they are biased and recklessly so at that for being such a well respected newspaper and journalistic source.
 
Originally posted by: TechAZ

Actually we just realize that they are biased and recklessly so at that for being such a well respected newspaper and journalistic source.

Ooh, another person from the venerable "I don't have any proof I just know" school of debate.
 
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: TechAZ

Actually we just realize that they are biased and recklessly so at that for being such a well respected newspaper and journalistic source.

Ooh, another person from the venerable "I don't have any proof I just know" school of debate.

Ok, eskimospy: here's your mission, should you choose to accept it.

Can you please find just one example where the New York Times published a front-page article critical of a Democrat, that has one person for a source, was not fact-checked, and was later found to be not true, and the correction was not published on the front page? If you could, it would go a long way to dispel the notion that the Times has a bias, and instead, is sometimes lacksadaisical in its reporting standards.

 
Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: TechAZ

Actually we just realize that they are biased and recklessly so at that for being such a well respected newspaper and journalistic source.

Ooh, another person from the venerable "I don't have any proof I just know" school of debate.

Ok, eskimospy: here's your mission, should you choose to accept it.

Can you please find just one example where the New York Times published a front-page article critical of a Democrat, that has one person for a source, was not fact-checked, and was later found to be not true, and the correction was not published on the front page? If you could, it would go a long way to dispel the notion that the Times has a bias, and instead, is sometimes lacksadaisical in its reporting standards.

Sweet deal, eskimospy. All you have to do to disprove someone else's point is search through thousands of articles on a site that requires payment to access.
 
Hey guys, Bill Kristol spews falsehoods and misinformation in every single one of his op-ed's and the NYT has allowed this to continue, so on that front, I would say some in here might have a point.
 
Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: TechAZ

Actually we just realize that they are biased and recklessly so at that for being such a well respected newspaper and journalistic source.

Ooh, another person from the venerable "I don't have any proof I just know" school of debate.

Ok, eskimospy: here's your mission, should you choose to accept it.

Can you please find just one example where the New York Times published a front-page article critical of a Democrat, that has one person for a source, was not fact-checked, and was later found to be not true, and the correction was not published on the front page? If you could, it would go a long way to dispel the notion that the Times has a bias, and instead, is sometimes lacksadaisical in its reporting standards.

Sweet deal, eskimospy. All you have to do to disprove someone else's point is search through thousands of articles on a site that requires payment to access.

I love it when people make accusations and then try to shift the burden of proof onto other people to prove them wrong.
 
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: TechAZ

Actually we just realize that they are biased and recklessly so at that for being such a well respected newspaper and journalistic source.

Ooh, another person from the venerable "I don't have any proof I just know" school of debate.

Ok, eskimospy: here's your mission, should you choose to accept it.

Can you please find just one example where the New York Times published a front-page article critical of a Democrat, that has one person for a source, was not fact-checked, and was later found to be not true, and the correction was not published on the front page? If you could, it would go a long way to dispel the notion that the Times has a bias, and instead, is sometimes lacksadaisical in its reporting standards.

Sweet deal, eskimospy. All you have to do to disprove someone else's point is search through thousands of articles on a site that requires payment to access.

I love it when people make accusations and then try to shift the burden of proof onto other people to prove them wrong.

You claimed the New York Times isn't partisan. I have claimed it is. I have provided supporting evidence (in the form of a recent front page article critical of a Republican VP candidate that was based on factually incorrect information) for my cause. You have countered by saying it was a simple mistake, or oversight. If your theory is correct, than surely there is another article in the storied NY Times history that demonstrates the same factual mistakes in the course of criticising a Democrat. If you cannot provide one, then your argument is mere supposition.

I'd like to be as genererous to the NY Times as you apparently are. You know, "never attribute to malice that which can equally be attributed to incompetence". I'd just like for you to give me one reason to...

 
Was the librarian fired? She didn't want to comment? That almost suggests that she received a payment--a settlement with a "don't ever talk about this" provision--that the city and its taxpayers had to pay for all because of Palin's religious insanity and desire to overturn the First Amendment.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: QED

The New York Times agenda is so obvious and transparent, and their readdership has suffered heavily as a result.
Ok but is the report true?

The report of her wanting to ban certain books? Damn if I know... I'd be curious in find out more about it (exactly what was said, who said it, and in what context). Unfortunately, I just can't take the New York Time's one-sided word for it (they claim the spoke with "several" people about it, but only identify one?!?).
 
And even better for the democrats, Obama, Biden, and all responsible democrats are taking the high road while much of this plays out on the internet and in the media.

That will teach McCain not to vette his VP pick, McCain has no one to blame but himself.

And PJ is the last person on earth who should expect any sympathy from this forum, as ole PJ is the author of so many bogus threads trying to cast any democrat in a bad light, and then when
the media happens to focus on a republirat for a rare change, PJ is screaming foul and unfair.

But if it makes you feel any better PJ, I have the world smallest violin playing hearts and flowers, just for you.
 
Originally posted by: QED
The report of her wanting to ban certain books? Damn if I know... I'd be curious in find out more about it (exactly what was said, who said it, and in what context). Unfortunately, I just can't take the New York Time's one-sided word for it (they claim the spoke with "several" people about it, but only identify one?!?).
Fortunately you don't have to, as I previously linked to in this thread, Time magazine also covered the matter independently.

Notably as the rest of the New York Times article notes, Palin did aknowledge the incident in a previous local Alaska newspaper interview, but claimed it was a "rheotrical question" and didn't attempt to claim for instance that the materials mentioned were so clearly offensive that it would be hard for anyone to argue against banning them.

I will aknowledge that ideally I would like the details on any books Palin specifically mentioned as candidates for banning. (I.E. The Origin of the Species by Charles Darwin.😉)
 
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