P4ee vs a64 vs afx51. THE P4 WON!!!!

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: shminu

Originally posted by: brettjrob
I really feel bad for AMD after seeing this. I own an Intel, but I don't want to see AMD get wiped off the face of the earth, which looks to be a possibility given this. I mean the super-expensive, limited quantity, dual-channel, top-of-the-line next-gen FX51 can hardly keep up with a Northwood with extra cache, and even the current P4 in some cases! Not to mention that the Athlon 64 3200+ fares even worse. I mean really, this is a next-generation product pitted against a core that Intel has had out for about two years (albeit the latest revision)... it should be expected to slaughter the P4 in most cases, and anything less is not good news for AMD.

Don't go too far there.

It's not like AMD is in as deep of sh!t as Nvidia is in right now.

Nvidia has pockets full of cash.. AMD has had quarterly loss after quarterly loss. A company can only lose $250million a quarter so much before it gets gobbled up. Yeah as you can tell, Im hoping IBM gobbles up AMD, only then would AMD be able to compete toe to toe with Intel.

 

[NFactor]

These benchmarks do not impress me at all, but I do not believe they are entirely reliable. I will have to wait until tommorrow until I have confirmation of the EE kicking AMD64.

I doubt it because mainly Evan says in the Motherboard Forum under the Athlon 64 motherboard thread that the chip's performance is very impressive. These benchmarks are not impressive and the Opteron 146 seemed to have performed better than the FX.

I do not think that they are entirely true but if they are kudos to Intel.

 

[classy]

Woah I think these benchmarks need to be interpreted correctly.

I skip right over the synthetic marks, now right to the meat
Super PI FX Athlon barely won this one over the EE by one sec.
The A64 was edged by the 3.2 P4 by one sec.

Studio Max which is heavily optimized for the Intel platform was dominated by Intel.

POV Chess dominated by the AMD group. Even the Duron beat the Intel EE, lol

Jet Shadow I have no idea what it is but again dominated by the whole Intel crowd, optimized maybe.

Specview the numbers are so close take your pick

Sciencemark won easily by the FX with A64 topping the 3.2 as well.

Minigzip the FX and A64 run wild in this one, not even close.

3dmark 2001 the EE wins this one withe FX close behind followed by the A64 topping the 3.2 P4.

3dmark 2003 the EE wins but the numbers between it the FX, 3.2, A64 are so close take your pick.

UT2003 won by the FX followed by the A64.

UT2003 Flyby same thing but the EE sneaks past the A64 by .3 of a frame.

Quake3 the EE wins followed by the FX, but only 6 frames seperate the 3.2 from the A64.

NV15 which is taking advantage of SMP like in regular Quake benefits the Intel crowd.

The overclocked numbers seem a bit suspect. So I won't comment on those. The truth is outside of benchmarks where software is optimized, the Intel loses. It needs optimization to be successfu. Intel does well in 3dmark and Quake3 (which has always favored Intel. But in games only the EE can compete. And I bet tomorrow you'll see the FX and A64 in other games outpace the Intel. This is not what I would call a great review, its ok. The overclocked numbers seem kinda off. But if you look close AMD looks like they'll be back in the driver seat, like they were with the Athlon, but this time Intel is in the passenger seat. But the one thing that does bode very well for AMD, it looks like they are going to be able to ramp speeds very quickly, where Intel has hit the ceiling with the current P4. I seriously doubt the EE will ever be released higher than 3.2.

 

[SexyK]

Originally posted by: classy
But the one thing that does bode very well for AMD, it looks like they are going to be able to ramp speeds very quickly, where Intel has hit the ceiling with the current P4. I seriously doubt the EE will ever be released higher than 3.2.

...Prescott?

 

[Pariah]

But the one thing that does bode very well for AMD, it looks like they are going to be able to ramp speeds very quickly, where Intel has hit the ceiling with the current P4. I seriously doubt the EE will ever be released higher than 3.2.

Didn't Ace's Hardware or someone else already have a 3.4Ghz EE for testing?

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: Pariah

But the one thing that does bode very well for AMD, it looks like they are going to be able to ramp speeds very quickly, where Intel has hit the ceiling with the current P4. I seriously doubt the EE will ever be released higher than 3.2.

Didn't Ace's Hardware or someone else already have a 3.4Ghz EE for testing?

I think it was overclocked.

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Pariah

But the one thing that does bode very well for AMD, it looks like they are going to be able to ramp speeds very quickly, where Intel has hit the ceiling with the current P4. I seriously doubt the EE will ever be released higher than 3.2.

Didn't Ace's Hardware or someone else already have a 3.4Ghz EE for testing?

I think it was overclocked.

Their engineering sample was defaulted to 17x, which is 3.4Ghz.

 

[Pariah]

It was Ace's. Intel told them to pull the article because there was an NDA. It was 3.4 and it wasn't OC'd. I doubt Intel is sending out OC'd samples.