I'm going to have to second Wingznut Pez here:
<< "Keep quiet, you idiot!!!..."
"jackass!!!"
"u idiot"
"some people dont know shlt and this guy shows it. I read the reviews idiot"
"you are either a liar or stupid SOB..."
You guys are WAY out of line. :| Grow up. >>
Look, if you want to make someone that you disagree with look really, really stupid, you beat him down with the facts. Dont just call him/her a liar, prove it. I'm not referencing either of your claims (or not yet in my post, anyway), I'm just saying do what Doctor Pizzaman (or whatever his name is) did in a post I saw... he took it out and beat a guy down. Not with one review, but several (or in that case, with half of a OS reference guide). For the record, as I heard it, a 1 GHz T-bird will burn up in 7 seconds without a heatsink, not 2 seconds if the fan fails. If you dont mount a HSF on a modern processor, you really need to step away from the inside of your case and let someone who knows what they are doing take over. That
<< What the P$ has going for it is its low heat factor and a special clock down feature if for some reason, the processor gets too hot. I've read that once AMDs get over 1ghz if your fan fails, it will burn up in less than 2 seconds. So, heat is a major conscern. >>
is out of line. Maybe he meant it as a non-literal statement, 2 seconds = very small amount of time, but still, its not factual. I will grant that if the fan fails on a T-bird, you may have some problems. But, if you have a either a mobo like the KT7A, which automatically shutsdown if the fan connected to FAN1 drops below a certain RPM, or have a fan monitoring program (MBM), thats no big issue. Other than that, people's complaining about the heat generated by the T-bird is, in my opinion, a non-issue. If you had a CPU that ran at 200 C, as long as it was stable at that temperature, who cares? As long as CPU runs stable, its temperature should not be a concern. I have PMed Wingznut Pez, and he said he managed to get his 1.7 (I'm pretty sure it was a 1.7, Wingznut Pez please correct me if wrong) GHz P4 up to 1955 (again, please correct if wrong) entirely stable, and over 2GHz, but it would crash in a certain benchmark. Lets assume he had a OC of 300MHz, 300MHz being a nice, round number. Of the people that I know that have bought 1 Ghz and 1.2 GHz T-birds (back when they were the top or close to the top MHz speed), 300MHz is approx. their average OC. Thus, heat doesnt seem to be holding them back in overclocks. I do believe a retail 1.7GHz P4 is cooler than a retail 1.33GHz T-Bird (retail referring to their HSF included in the retail box). Anyway, my point is, unless you sit on top of your HSF, as long as it runs stable, heat is a non-issue.
EDIT: The guy who posted was "DoctorPizza." He actually took out the NT 4.0 Resource kit, and smacked someone down by taking their statement, admitting to the true ones, and disproving false statements made in posts. Notice how he has a perfect "10" user rating (out of 6 votes, and yes, I am among those 6).
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