P4 Emergency Edition is now <1000!!!

[jhu]

it changed because the price of the p4ee is outrageous for the performance. and the fact that a 1ghz 1.5mb itanium is cheaper and faster makes the p4ee an even more ridiculous processor.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: jhu
it changed because the price of the p4ee is outrageous for the performance. and the fact that a 1ghz 1.5mb itanium is cheaper and faster makes the p4ee an even more ridiculous processor.

Is it? I mean, is it worth it for a gamer(or one who would likely be attracted to an EE)to consider getting an Itanium instead? I don't think so.

 

[jhu]

no. it's also not worth it for a gamer to consider a p4ee

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: Pariah
Those are quite a bit cheaper. $3900 for a 900MHz. I thought it was odd that the 1GHz CPU was $390 cheaper. So I looked on Intel's site for pricing and all it did was confuse me more. Anyone want to explain this one to me:

1.4GHz 1.5MB (.13) $1,172
1.0GHz 1.5MB (.18) $2,247
900MHz 1.5MB (.18) $1,338
1.0GHz 1.5MB (.18) $744

What's with the deal with two 1GHz models, one 3 times the cost of the other? And why would you buy a 900MHz when a 1.4GHz on a smaller process is $150 cheaper?

http://www.intel.com/intel/finance/pricelist/

That reason is quite simple. If you'll notice, the .18 micron Itanium II's are much more expensive than the .13 micron Itanium II's. The die size is larger and they are more expensive to manufacture. That is the sole reason why they are more expensive. It has nothing to do with SMP or not. All Itanium chips can do up to 128 way.

I would wager that some older motherboards wouldnt support the .13micron design, but thats far fetched. Obviously, from the performance briefs, theres nothing better about the .18micron version compared to the .13micron. I believe the last entry (1.0Ghz 1.5MB (.18) $744) is a typo. It should be .13 micron.

Uh, great, whatever. You failed to explain why one of the .18u 1.0 Ghz 1.5 MB is $744 while the other which is $2247.

Also, I didn't mean that the different Itaniums wouldn't work on the same motherboard, but that an older stepping of the I2 might not be compatible in a machine that already has a newer stepping, which is why they continue to sell both, but they try to discourage the purchasing of the older ones by making the them more expensive. Cheaper to upgrade and buy two of the newer steppings. I really have no idea, just speculation.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: jhu
no. it's also not worth it for a gamer to consider a p4ee

Hehe, well, that's a whole other thread!

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Uh, great, whatever. You failed to explain why one of the .18u 1.0 Ghz 1.5 MB is $744 while the other which is $2247.

Also, I didn't mean that the different Itaniums wouldn't work on the same motherboard, but that an older stepping of the I2 might not be compatible in a machine that already has a newer stepping, which is why they continue to sell both, but they try to discourage the purchasing of the older ones by making the them more expensive. Cheaper to upgrade and buy two of the newer steppings. I really have no idea, just speculation.

Umm... I said that the $744 1Ghz/1.5MB at .18micron is most definitely a typo. If you look in the AT archives, you'll see that Intel launched the LV 1Ghz "Deerfield" 1.5MB cache processor at around $790. The Deerfield is .13 micron. Its not just coincidential.

Thats what I meant to say. OEMs probably didnt update their BIOS to recognize the new processors. Its not evil greedy companies, but its the fact that when you do something like this for machines of this type, it requires lengthy validation.

 

[nick1985]

and the itanium talks continue...

 

[jhu]

But of course, this is a rather hypothetical discussion, seeing as they'll be running completely different software and all, but still, it would be interesting which one would do better in stuff like Q3

well, we could use quake2 since the source is now gpl. the itanium2 that dell and hp sell have agp slots. and nvidia does provide ia64 drivers for linux.

 

[Sunner]

Pretty good idea, would make an interesting comparison

 

[Acanthus]

An itanium on quake 3, thats like briging an ICBM to a knife fight.