P4 4 EE 3.4GHz 800MHz 2MB S478 CPU

[apoppin]

no need ... i can always connect to the net to replace anything that breaks in a day or 2 max
- if i am in the middle of a game ... no biggie ... work can always wait a day or two ... for my PC billing or whatever

i worry about my 2002 car more ... thinking of a new one next years ... also [although i DO have a *spare car* in the garage that needs just a little work]

and PC club is nearby ... and Best Buy and CC .. and ...


i may live in the "country" ... but 'everything' is 1/2 hour drive away
[at 90 mph, anyway]

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: apoppin
no need ... and PC club is nearby ... and Best Buy and CC .. and ...

Sorry! I was posting that for P4 S478 3.4GHz EE owners...

Abit VT7 mobos are FLY!!!

They're cheap, beautiful, and still available...

Source

Conclusion

Up until now, VIA PT880 motherboards have been somewhat of a second class product. Designed badly or very little overclocking has seen them fall to the back of the pack. Finally someone has taken up the VIA cause and given them a fair go.

The ABIT VT7 is what we have come to expect from ABIT - quality, reliability and overclockability are all present, however, we are not accustomed to value based motherboards from ABIT. Normally we expect to see a Gigabit Ethernet or a Silicon Image SATA RAID controller and Firewire but this motherboard is plain Jane with some overclocking bite.

If you are looking for a motherboard with heaps of features, you won?t find what you want in the VT7. However, if you?re looking for a super overclocking motherboard on a budget with the ABIT name, the VT7 is right for you and will give you what you are looking for in your Pentium 4 system.

It?s VIA PT880 done right.

*edit*

OMG!!! :shocked:

Abit VT7 mobos are getting pricey and hard to find, just like the EEs...

 

[apoppin]

i'm sorry, i thought the:

If I was you, that's what I would do...

was directed right at me .... to have a 'backup"

. . . and i *almost* got an ABIT VT7 ... IF my C2D/MB/DDR2 upgrade wasn't almost free ... --and IF it was available at NewEgg and IF it didn't cost nearly $70 ... my new MB is $25 open box.
[net $35 total upgrade costs from P4 to C2D]

. . .and i will have better performance for about the same price as my old rig's P4 and RAM.

... since it is all new and under warranty ... no need for back-up

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: apoppin
. . . and i *almost* got an ABIT VT7 ...

. . .and i will have better performance for about the same price as my old rig's P4 and RAM.

LoL! I picked up a new Abit VT7, last July, for like 35 bones delivered... good ol' eBay!

You'll like your new rig! ASRock has a following -- just no bragging rights -- but, ya gotta do what ya gotta do! And, it'll probably run circles around your 'classic' rig...

 

[Auric]

Sweet bejebus apoppin, you seem to be spending a lot of time and some scratch for half-arsed upgrades. VIA chipset over Intel?! Frankenstein's monster AGP/PCIe 1.x? Justifying the "low cost" upgrade on top of what was actually a poor bang for the dinar CPU (EE)? Enjoy

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Auric
Sweet bejebus apoppin, you seem to be spending a lot of time and some scratch for half-arsed upgrades. VIA chipset over Intel?! Frankenstein's monster AGP/PCIe 1.x? Justifying the "low cost" upgrade on top of what was actually a poor bang for the dinar CPU (EE)? Enjoy

i dunno . . . basically i am paying less than $350 net to have completely upgraded my rig from

x850xt > x1950p/512M

1 GB PC 3500 > 1.5GB PC 3500 > 2 GB DDR2 DDR 800 [pc6400]

P42.80c@3.31Ghz > P43.4EE@3.74G > C2D e4300 1.8Ghz @ 3.0Ghz [?]

Abit IC7 > ASRock - 775Dual-VSTA

the *only* compromise is the MB because i don't want to give up my AGP "perfectly good" x1950p ... and for what it little cost i can toss it when i finally upgrade the MB ...

and i can always stick a 8800GTS into it if i need a quick graphics *fix*

what is not to love?


--for $350 net ... and my "time"
[work is slow anyway ]

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: apoppin
P42.80c@3.31Ghz > P43.4EE@3.74G > C2D e4300 1.8Ghz @ 3.0Ghz [?]

Abit IC7 > ASRock - 775Dual-VSTA

what is not to love?

Not thread crappin' -- but you asked, bro... so...

With your thread count -- and choice of CPU & mobo -- you became a demi-god!

Now, with your new choice of CPU & mobo -- you're comin' off like Sanford & Son!

It took you three years to get a P4 EE, and attain this status -- and you've destroyed it in a day!

I understand you're a victim in all this, but some decent cooling might have helped...

Anyway, I hope you don't expect your former EE buds to follow you down this path to oblivion!

If I was you, I'd stop while I'm ahead!

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: Auric
Sweet bejebus apoppin... Frankenstein's monster...

Kind of ironic really!

Frankenstein was a pessimistic novel about a perfectly sympathetic figure... and that's what apoppin's monster was!

This thread has 4000 views, so it must have struck a cord with someone.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: VinDSL

Originally posted by: apoppin
P42.80c@3.31Ghz > P43.4EE@3.74G > C2D e4300 1.8Ghz @ 3.0Ghz [?]

Abit IC7 > ASRock - 775Dual-VSTA

what is not to love?

Not thread crappin' -- but you asked, bro... so...

With your thread count -- and choice of CPU & mobo -- you became a demi-god!

Now, with your new choice of CPU & mobo -- you're comin' off like Sanford & Son!

It took you three years to get a P4 EE, and attain this status -- and you've destroyed it in a day!

I understand you're a victim in all this, but some decent cooling might have helped...

Anyway, I hope you don't expect your former EE buds to follow you down this path to oblivion!

If I was you, I'd stop while I'm ahead!

actually i expect *all* of you to follow me ... eventually
--my *choice* of replacement HW is dictated by "circumstances" and budget

... the e4300 is one of the finest OC'ers [period] ... i expect to get from 1.8G to near 3.0Ghz ... at least double the performance of the 'EE' ... and a functional ASrock is better than a non-functional Abit IC7 anyday ... it allows me to do a $35 net upgrade - for double performance ... and gives me a real upgrade path with 8800 or 2900 PCIe ... and after i upgrade my [$25] AsRock MB i should get further advantages with being able to use my faster RAM to its fullest and further OC - well over 3.0Ghz.

*best of all* someone else will have a P4EE and carry on the 'tradition'

and i seriously *doubt* that my PCI slots failed because of lack of cooling
:Q

sometimes ... it's the way the "stars align" ... fate ...
:moon::sun:

i could *keep* my P4 EE ... but logic dictates i 'let it go' ... it was a *privilege* to enjoy this rig ... for so long .... and help others to make a decent 'ee' upgrade decision
--so it's onward ... and not to look back - except with memories - 'fondly' and perhaps to blaze a trail for those who ALSO *will* have MB failure

in the *meantime* look for a great P4 3.4 EE that does 3.8G with a good cooling solution ... 3.74 with my crappy one ... in FS/T ... along with some very OC'able PC 3500 that will take full advantage of this awesome CPU
:thumbsup:

Sanford is having a HW sale - it ain't junk :gift:
:laugh:


EDIT:

.... and they *are* evidently 'following me'
:Q

Intel E4300 $116 Shipped

check out Funboy's comment

Originally posted by: funboy42
Yeah I was kidding
Now that the prices are within a decent reach I will be selling one hell of a pc, taking my left over parts I have laying around the house now, buy the stuff you mentioned there and give myself a much needed cpu and mobo upgrade

it *aint* misery loves company ... it's ...
-quite logical

--so i am dropping out of the Extreme Elitist club

:laugh:

 

[apoppin]

i got her going ...

C2D e4300 1.8Ghz at 2.763Ghz / (bastage) ASrock MB / 2x1GB Corsair XMS PC6400
--running it at 1:1
... and i think i am near the upper limit of my MB in allowing my e4300 to OC ...
-- 'rock solid' at 307 FSB ... 2.763Ghz ... much above that it doesn't post


BUT 3DMark05 is *only* 10132 and '06 is 5172
all the gains with the CPU scores :Q

--frankly i am disappointed ... my same rig with the same AGP x1950p/512m with DDR-1/P4 EE got 9300/4300
... i would *NOT* have upgraded unless i HAD to
--so anyway ... a *decent* if not spectacular upgrade for net $35

that P4 3.4 EE is one hell of an awesome SC CPU ...
---look for her in FS/T ... along with some very oc'able 1.5GB PC3500

good for whoever buys it

 

[VinDSL]

Thanks for posting!

I was curious how the ugrade was going...

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: VinDSL
Thanks for posting!

I was curious how the ugrade was going...

sure ... everything needs some "closure"

anyway ... going ... going ... going ...

FS: P4 3.4 EE - does 3.74Ghz

somebody *else* will have a decent older system

i will struggle on ...

 

[grayling]

I will keep my 3.4ee for a kids pc and wait on the 4 cores to drop. This was a fun thread.

Gigabyte 8ik1100 rev2
2 gb hyperx @2-3-2-6 2t
2-160gb wd in raid0
evga 7800 gs superclock
zalman 9500
p4 3.4ee @ 3.74 @ 43c load, 1.55v

I only ran aquamark for a bench 75,280 @ 3.4 80,544 @ 3.74 where my 2.6c was 62,408
and 72,836 @ 3.25 but what makes this chip worth the upgrade is the 2gb cache which took my 2.6 from a lousy 25 to 35 fps in Battlefield 2142 inside a titan to over 50fps and being able to get knife kills inside a titan that were impossible with the 2.6 even overclocked.

 

[BadThad]

Originally posted by: apoppin
i got her going ...

C2D e4300 1.8Ghz at 2.763Ghz / (bastage) ASrock MB / 2x1GB Corsair XMS PC6400
--running it at 1:1
... and i think i am near the upper limit of my MB in allowing my e4300 to OC ...
-- 'rock solid' at 307 FSB ... 2.763Ghz ... much above that it doesn't post


BUT 3DMark05 is *only* 10132 and '06 is 5172
all the gains with the CPU scores :Q

--frankly i am disappointed ... my same rig with the same AGP x1950p/512m with DDR-1/P4 EE got 9300/4300
... i would *NOT* have upgraded unless i HAD to
--so anyway ... a *decent* if not spectacular upgrade for net $35

that P4 3.4 EE is one hell of an awesome SC CPU ...
---look for her in FS/T ... along with some very oc'able 1.5GB PC3500

good for whoever buys it

You running the E4300 at default voltage? What cooler?

 

[apoppin]

the stock intel cooler

the ASrock MB doesn't have voltage options

and i am not a pin-taper

 

[setras]

Liquid cooling really lets you open these up.......

Got the p4 3.4 EE sl7ch, about a month ago (sent to me by my brother) have managed to get stable at 4025 Mhz using liquid cooling and have had it it as high as 4250 mhz (had some stability issues due to ram timings now set at 3,3,5,8) the M/B reports alll fine at these speeds the max temp was 58C. Running with no OCing the CPU stays around 28C mark. just waiting fir more cooling kit and i will try a bit more speed.

 

[evolucion8]

Damn nice job!! I barely can reach 3.73GHz which is pretty much the limit on air cooling on the Pentium 4 EE processors.

 

[VinDSL]

I'm running 3.85GHz, benchmark stable, with a Tuniq Tower 120.

4.0GHz-ish on air is problematic for me. Boots into Windows and runs proggies, but doesn't like Orthos, et cetera.

I've read time-and-time again that NetBurst chips hit the wall @ 4GHz -- and that's a fact!

All this OC'ing is fun and everything, but the larger point is, these P4 EE chips are fly!!!

As 'apoppin' found out (the hard way) these are tough chips -- probably tougher than the rest of your components!

OC'ing takes a toll on everything, not just the CPU! 'Liquid cooling' is fine, but keep an eye on your NB, MOSFET, & CAP temps too...

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: VinDSL
I'm running 3.85GHz, benchmark stable, with a Tuniq Tower 120.
. . .

As 'apoppin' found out (the hard way) these are tough chips -- probably tougher than the rest of your components!

OC'ing takes a toll on everything, not just the CPU! 'Liquid cooling' is fine, but keep an eye on your NB, MOSFET, & CAP temps too...

i doubt it

my IC7 was running an equivalent OC for 3 years ...

perhaps TR's suggestion to turn off the NB fan had something to do with it

ANYWAY, the "EE" is a fine SC CPU ... even 3 years after launch

i *still* have it for sale ... so perhaps not everyone agrees

But i have no regrets whatsoever having experienced it ... nor do i regret getting a newer platform and CPU.

 

[Auric]

You must be axing too much apoppin. These things were o'erpriced when selling new for $100 shipped recently. Once you know that it is difficult to justify spending more and especially for one that's been used and abused. Even disregarding much better bang for the dinar current systems, S478 Prescott CPU's with roughly equivalent performance (higher or lower depending upon task) can be had for significantly less. So, you may wanna try unloading it via ebay rather than on AT.

VinDSL, a 15% OC is insignificant and has no impact on any other component. It would have to be closer to 40% before being worth consideration. Heck, my first OC from 166 to 200 is 20% and that was limited by available jumper settings. With numerous subsequent Intel systems over more than a decade, the OC was never less until this EE. But as said, it ain't my custom to choose the last of a series but rather the lowest of a new process or at least significant revision.

 

[apoppin]

not on ebay ... they are still ~$150 even '+' ... used

and the "EE" *kills* the PressHot in just about every way
:roll:

and i think the *cheapest* was $120
--maybe a 'little' cheaper for a few hours.


the "EE' was a *significant revision* that cost almost $500 more than intel's next-best CPU
:Q
mine has not been *abused* whasoever .. it is been very carefully and conservatively tested and used for less than a month at stock voltage

it is perfect for someone that *needs* the best p4 possible and doesn't want to do what i did

 

[setras]

Originally posted by: evolucion8
Damn nice job!! I barely can reach 3.73GHz which is pretty much the limit on air cooling on the Pentium 4 EE processors.

Before the liquid cooling i had it fitted with a Coolermaster Jet 7 which i adapted from my old XP3200+ ran at 55C at 3.82Ghz no problems....

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: Auric
VinDSL, a 15% OC is insignificant and has no impact on any other component. It would have to be closer to 40% before being worth consideration...

Oh, B.S.

I hear this percentage crap all the time, and it's just that!

Look, I have a DFI LanParty Pro 875B Rev.1 mobo...

That's quite a mouth-full right? What does it mean in reality?

What it means is DFI made a great LanParty mobo -- a great overclocker -- but it couldn't handle 'PressHot' chips, as apoppin put it.

What it means is DFI revised their most excellent LanParty Pro 875B to run at 3.4GHz -- mostly by putting sinks on the MOSFETS -- but they also did other stuff, such as tweaking the BIOS options...

Anyway, I don't give a tinker's damn what the percentages are... a 3.4GHz P4 EE was never designed to run at 4.0GHz... and neither was a DFI LanParty Pro 875B Rev.1 mobo!

This is definitely pushing the envelope, and the wild overvoltage required to do this DOES harm all the components, regardless of silly percentage theories!

If you haven't noticed, I've gone way out of my way to provide snaps of my equipment and screenies on my OC results. I offer this as *proof* of my *experiences* with the P4 EE. Ppl like you have offered exactly jack sh!t, except for running your 'mouth'...

Time to put up or shut up...

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: Auric
You must be axing too much apoppin. These things were o'erpriced when selling new for $100 shipped recently. Once you know that it is difficult to justify spending more and especially for one that's been used and abused.

Gotta admit, I thought about this too...

However, this guy is as cheap a person as I've ever seen on AnandTech - the trailer park/flea market of tech sites.

He would NEVER spend $5 for an ad on eBay -- NEVER!

 

[apoppin]

actually i AM gonna gonna post two old classic [fixer upper] RX5 Mazda Cosmos on Fleabay ... this coming week ...
--so IF it doesn't sell by then, my EE will go there also ...

i guess i could drop the price $5


--and Auric is just *bitter* ...
-there is no Prescott - except for the "unlocked" ES - that can hold a candle to the "EE"
[the PressHot candle melts]
:Q

what a *joke* that AWFUL P4 was ...
:thumbsdown:

that's *why* i don't want to drop the price on my P4 ... someone will figure out its "value" for a cheap upgrade
--they are just 'cheap' on ATF FS/T - or broke - you should see the "trade" offers i get
:roll:

... much *worse* than me.