P4 4 EE 3.4GHz 800MHz 2MB S478 CPU

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Auric

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VinDSL, if increasing voltage over the already high default for the EE with a dodgy mobo then sure, it is stressing both. But otherwise, the 15% is a mild OC that just happens to reach the limits of the CPU design and not stress the mobo at all. In any case the potential extra couple percent over what everyone and their cat is getting is unlikely worth the risk if intended to be used rather than be a novelty.

I submit that yer mobo can't be as good as you reckon 'cause the one I got four years ago pre-dated the more demanding Prescott but officially supports them and the EE. It was among the first mobos based upon the 865PE (and as such is Rev 0). It's a good idea to do a li'l research before buying to ensure the longest upgrade path and generally avoid surprises.

apoppin, eschewing ebay may be "cutting off your nose to spite your face". I have often managed significant upgrades at negligible cost by selling on ebay. The keys are to do so at opportune moments in product cycles and of course sell worldwide to take advantage of disparate pricing and availability in other countries.
 

apoppin

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Auric, i did *not* say i was skipping ebay . ... . i am just giving a few more days here

i AM selling two cars after this weekend on ebay ... so it is easy to keep up with the third [mini] auction ;)

i don't think the P4 EE is gonna lose any value in the next week :p
[plus someone is trying to work a deal for it right now]

and it is a nice performance increase from 3.4 to 3.8G ... of course, not as exceptional as my current OC - from 1.8 to 2.81Ghz

... but "free" performance is never to be sneezed at

 

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i just happened to see this post........i have my 3.4 running at 4.04...rock solid too. /w oem hs/fan.
 

Aeros

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What hs/f are you using and is your ram running 1:1

And why is my 3Dmark 05 score lower then Apoppins with his pro on the EE?

3DMark05 Score 8381 3DMarks

CPU Score 4712 CPUMarks

GT1 - Return To Proxycon 32.1 fps

GT2 - Firefly Forest 22.3 fps

GT3 - Canyon Flight 52.7 fps

CPU Test 1 2.5 fps

CPU Test 2 4.0 fps
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Aeros
What hs/f are you using and is your ram running 1:1

And why is my 3Dmark 05 score lower then Apoppins with his pro on the EE?

3DMark05 Score 8381 3DMarks
no idea why :p
-there is some variability in this test ... is your EE oc'd?

3DMark05 score with the P4EE @ 3.74G/x1950p-512M was 9380

C2D manages only 1,000 more [then, i oc'd my x1950p - a little - to get a few more points]
 

Aeros

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running both the CPU and the GPU on the clocks in sig...There is no way you could score higher then me wih a pro. Can you post a screen shot of ORB's results for me to compare.
 

apoppin

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my P4 ee rig is dismantled ... ten days ago ... my P4 is *sold* and packed [today]

so ... no

no screenshots ... waaaaay too late :p
[i posted the 'details' earlier in this thread]

--and my current rig is totally "in line" with other C2D/ASrock/x1950p/DDR2 results ;)

what are you scoring in 3DMark05/06?
--especially the CPU scores

EDIT: it's your GeCube - it is a 'dog' compared to the PCIe 'XT' version
... barely faster than the 512MB x1950p
 

apoppin

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no idea why your rig scores so low ... i DO know that your x1950xt is barely faster than my x1950p

there are a few other guys with P4s that scored low

driver issue? settings 'forced' in CCC?

what Cats are you running?

ZERO idea 'why' ... it's your rig :p

Stumps ... who has posted here and posts in video had similar results to mine ... his was an OC'd AMD cpu ... but he has the same Pro i do.
 

evolucion8

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Originally posted by: apoppin
my P4 ee rig is dismantled ... ten days ago ... my P4 is *sold* and packed [today]

so ... no

no screenshots ... waaaaay too late :p
[i posted the 'details' earlier in this thread]

--and my current rig is totally "in line" with other C2D/ASrock/x1950p/DDR2 results ;)

what are you scoring in 3DMark05/06?
--especially the CPU scores

EDIT: it's your GeCube - it is a 'dog' compared to the PCIe 'XT' version
... barely faster than the 512MB x1950p

Actually, the core speed of the GeCube card runs at 648MHz, 2Mhz shy of the X1900XTX/X1950XTX card, but what really cripples the card is it RAM speed. It is rated to 1.2ns (1600MHz) and runs at 1400MHz, when the X1900XTX runs at 1800MHz and the X1950XTX runs at 2000MHz. This card really shines in resolutions above 1280x1024, and when Anti Aliasing is used. It can be 33% average faster (Can be higher, can be lower depending of the situation) which is significant. But when is CPU limited, the difference is reduced.
 

Aeros

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7.4 Driver version.
Dont run CCC.
New Install of WinXP SP2.

Link to your ORB's result for me, or publish you results and I'll look.
 

apoppin

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Aeros
7.4 Driver version.
Dont run CCC.
New Install of WinXP SP2.

Link to your ORB's result for me, or publish you results and I'll look.

i am not so sure you get it :p

first ... *which* rig do you want me to bench?
:confused:

my current C2D ?
[very "in line" with what everyone else is getting with C2D/x1950p/DDR2]

--or my old P4EE ??
:Q

... the EE is GONE ... sold ... rig dismantled. :p
... you're a week late and 120 dollars short ..

i can't help it that your scores are low
 

Aeros

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When you run 3DM05 it saves the score online...thats what I meant...Link to that

Edit: the tests you ran weeks ago are still there.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Aeros
When you run 3DM05 it saves the score online...thats what I meant...Link to that

Edit: the tests you ran weeks ago are still there.

no ... they aren't ... and it isn't an automatic save and i am never online when i run them

i never felt the need to *prove* anything here before with scores

it isn't like i am saying i get over 30 FPS with my rig in Sig in STALKER with every in-game setting *completely maxed* and full FDL
:Q
[n/m]

my scores are well 'in line' with other P4EE users and x1950p ... your XT - replacing my Pro - would not be more than 200-250 '05 points faster in MY old EE rig

EDIT here ... check this out ... we did a bunch of benches in Video

but we weren't asked to *prove* our scores :p

it isn't a "contest" ... no one "wins" anything
--it is for "information" and the people who post are "trustworthy" we KNOW each other in Video as the regulars know each other here ;)

no one 'gets away' with anything ...

anyway

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Cookie Monster

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Currently OCing my setup. I shouldve done this a long time ago, but now its the time before i buy my new rig in Q3 or Q4.

Due to my samsung memory this northwood cant be stable enough at 3.6ghz. BIOs limitations are preventing me to use FSB dividers also, unless i use AUTO which kills memory bandwidth and hurts performance.

Currently running sp2004 with core at 3.45ghz (FSB 920).
Vcore at 1.6v but when i run sp2004, cpuz it shows up as 1.58~ strange
Vdimm at 2.65v 3-4-4-8

Should i be looking out for anything else?

Im planning to OC down at 3.4ghz, and maybe play around with the memory timings.
Should i stick with the current vdimm and vcore? or change it abit?

Northwoods tend to suffer this thing called sudden northwood death syndrome.. so i got to be careful with the vcore.

3dmark 05/06 coming soon after i stablise the OC.



 

apoppin

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what are you asking CM?

5:4 is fine ... the extra CPU speed 'usually' makes up for the lower divider ... test it both ways

BtW ... my EE is still for sale ... a Canadian buyer balked at his import fees :p
:roll:
--and almost brand new Kingston HyperX 2x512MB cheap PC3500 that will allow you 1:1 at 225 FSB at very tight timings
:light:

FS: P4 3.4EE does 3.74G EE and 1.5 GB PC 3500 - stable at 224 FSB
--how is that for shameless self-promotion?
:D
 

Aeros

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Bought a water cooling kit...stayed up all night installing, then at 5am the upstairs appartment caught on fire...My appartment is fine for the most part...I hope.

Water damage in the living room. I got to go back in for a bit to get personal stuff befor they sealed it off and checked out as much as I could.

I had my whole system appart on my office floor, I was in the middle of modding my case for the WC.

Well whenever I can get back in my house I'll finish the WC kit install and see what I can get outta this system.
 

apoppin

Lifer
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Originally posted by: VinDSL
Originally posted by: apoppin
i can always take a hammer to it

can't do that with your wife :p
Impotent too, eh?

Man, you went downhill fast... :D
... a very BIG hammer ... NO problems with pounding ... whatsoever ...
:confused:

... and i didn't have to beat her ... i sold her into slavery
--just yesterday ... i got 'my price'
... but i had to "throw in" the sink to complete the deal
... the [heatsink]

--to a really nice new owner !


:laugh: