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mikeymikec

mikeymikec

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Pens1566

Pens1566

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Looked to me like it came down too hard/fast. Like they thought they had more altitude than they really did.
 
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Pohemi

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I could barely see anything (eyes are shit) but I wondered if maybe it touched down cock-eyed (as in rotated to one side) due to wind. That could cause it to roll if it was moving forward laterally instead of the nose going straight forward, couldn't it?

IDK if I described that properly.
 
Amused

Amused

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Pohemi said:
I could barely see anything (eyes are shit) but I wondered if maybe it touched down cock-eyed (as in rotated to one side) due to wind. That could cause it to roll if it was moving forward laterally instead of the nose going straight forward, couldn't it?

IDK if I described that properly.
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The landing gear collapse. That much is obvious. Why is the question.
 
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dank69

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Amused said:
The landing gear collapse. That much is obvious. Why is the question.
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The comments on that imgur post have some information:

That particular aircraft design was not the greatest in windy conditions.
Preliminary evidence shows that the descent was steeper than usual.

Watching the video it seems clear that the jet descended what looks to be faster than normal into touchdown, and also leaned slightly to the right at contact. This absolutely obliterated the right landing gear and the whole thing cascaded into the death roll. Amazing everyone survived and only 18 injured.
 
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Amused

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dank69 said:
The comments on that imgur post have some information:

That particular aircraft design was not the greatest in windy conditions.
Preliminary evidence shows that the descent was steeper than usual.

Watching the video it seems clear that the jet descended what looks to be faster than normal into touchdown, and also leaned slightly to the right at contact. This absolutely obliterated the right landing gear and the whole thing cascaded into the death roll. Amazing everyone survived and only 18 injured.
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What is less obvious until you realize it is: The moment it lost the Starboard wing, the port wing had enough lift to spin the plane. That's why it flipped. The starboard landing gear broke, dropping the plane into the starboard wing breaking it off, the port wing lifts the plane and sends it into a spin.

What is amazing is how the firefighters suppressed the fire and no one burned up. Even as they were evacuating, fire was flaring and instantly suppressed. That entire fire station deserves a raise.
 
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MtnMan

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hal2kilo said:
What will rich people do with the extra houses they bought with cash then.
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They will have to mow their own grass, as all the employees of landscaping companies have either been deported, or are afraid to show up for work because of ICE raids.
 
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