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blackangst1

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This is a simplification of an actual quote from a speech by Lincoln titled ""The Perpetuation of Our Political Institutions", known as the Lyceum Address based on the location of its giving.

The actual quote reads "Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia, and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest, with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force take a drink from the Ohio or make a track on the Blue Ridge in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer. If it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us; it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."

sigh. If you take into account the context politifact rated it mostly false. So whatever. Read my link.
 

soundforbjt

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sigh. If you take into account the context politifact rated it mostly false. So whatever. Read my link.
Not the same quote, this is the quote from Politifact: "Says Abraham Lincoln said, "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we lose our freedoms it will be because we have destroyed ourselves from within." But the meaning is similar, he never said either one.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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sigh. If you take into account the context politifact rated it mostly false. So whatever. Read my link.
The context of that speech and those notions on how nations fall went on to educate a lot of his policies as president, so regardless of how 'accurate' it is, it's still relevant today.

You can't ackshewally your way to intellectualism on this board, you should know that by now.
 

blackangst1

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Not the same quote, this is the quote from Politifact: "Says Abraham Lincoln said, "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we lose our freedoms it will be because we have destroyed ourselves from within." But the meaning is similar, he never said either one.

Which, BTW, is his interpretation of a passage int he bible:

Matthew 12:25
But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand."
 

KMFJD

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Since esquared deleted this one after I liked it, I guess I'll oblige to repost it since I completely agree with it.

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stop liking what I like!
 

mikeymikec

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