P-4 puts Thunderbird to shame !!!!!!!!!!!

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Imaginer

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<< NOS440,Just to let you know there are very happy T-bird owners out there,Yes I`m one of them,I`m also a gamer &amp; do RC5 etc,my system is rock solid &amp; alot cheaper then what you payed,true yours is faster,but everybody knows what`s fast today is slow Tomorrow,&amp; as I said I`m very happy with the stability which is &amp; always will be my first priorty.. >>



Amen to that one mem. :)
 

Imaginer

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<< that review is so bias and silly it gets the point across somewhat about OEM's trying to ride Intels Advertising blitz that is soon to start. But to compare a crippled P-4 with a sh!tty Video card to a Thunderbird with a GF2 Ultra is just plain stupid. >>





<< Because ass isn't forbidden and sh*t is. >>



This is funny sh*t. :D
 

NOS440

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dennilfloss well I'm sure it would stack up againt the P-4 but whats the point there isn't one to be had or a P-4 at that clock. But from what I read the P-4 is heading there by mid year..

Imaginer


<< << NOS440,Just to let you know there are very happy T-bird owners out there,Yes I`m one of them,I`m also a gamer &amp; do RC5 etc,my system is rock solid &amp; alot cheaper then what you payed,true yours is faster,but everybody knows what`s fast today is slow Tomorrow,&amp; as I said I`m very happy with the stability which is &amp; always will be my first priorty.. >> >>



I'm sure there are plenty of happy Thunderbird owners and they should be.!!!! But I can tell ya one thing is for sure I purchased this P-4 cheaper than anyone could do the same with a 1.2 GHZ T-Bird even with Rdram and the high priced motherboard. I'm not saying that they are cheaper at retail prices Just that I got this at a Bargain basement deal.

AdamK47-3DS

Thats funny last time I got slammed it hurt. They just set me straight although I don't know why it just seems funny to me that one is allowed and the other isn't when they are so closely related ;) ;) LOL !!
 

NOS440

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Well I just spent some time at Dell's sight configuring a Dell and found that Tom must of either didn't know what he was doing or just plain tried to make Dell and the P-4 look bad. Why in a test situation would you configure the 2 computers so different ?? I easily configured a Dell with a GF2 Ultra and a 7200 RPM Hard Drive. That has to be the worst example of Bias I have ever witnessed. Why would he purposely configure the high end sytem from Micron with a Raid 0 setup and configure the Dell with a 5400 rpm Hard Drive. Also why would you configure the micron with a Ultra and the Dell with a regular Geforce 2.
I easily in about 15 minutes setup a p-4 on there sight with comparable setup that wouldn't of made Dell or the P-4 look bad.

I want to make clear that I agree that Dell's Limited Addition P-4 System is a Joke and anyone that buy's one is in for a very unpleasent suprise !! but the Custom configured system's part of this test was stupid.




 

Zephyr

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NOS

He was comparing on the same price.. if you configure the Dell w/ RAID it would become more expensive than the MicronPC
 

skace

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Nos, I was simply stating that at 700 mhz already other parts of the computer become a problem. Ram, Current video cards, and slow hard drives are also parts of your computer that need to be looked at and worked with more than just constantly increasing your cpu. And at the speed some of those components are upgrading they would likely never catch up to the Cpu.

Your hard drive and your video card are probably the biggest players in having something run smooth. If your hard drive starts going bad it will become the worst nightmare to anything you try to run (ex: every 2 minutes your pc freezes for 10 seconds in quake). If you have a bad video card you could come across a million problems, so thats pretty self explanatory. I don't have a link, so this will probably come back to bite me in the ass, but I am pretty sure last time I checked any benchmarks at all, everything was pretty close. Why? Well, what most reviewers concluded was everything had peaked at the video card and ram and the Cpu wasn't a limiting factor.

All I am getting at here, is not that you shouldn't waste your money on a p4 but more that you shouldn't attribute all your computer's success to the p4. My PC is rock stable and I don't give the Athelon my thanks for that, more so win2000. If I was running win98 I could probably say my PC wasn't rock stable anymore, but that is another story.

This may probably be my last post, Nos, as tomorrow is my last workday I don't plan to check the forums over the weekend :)

FYI - There is some reassurance in name brand. My work refuses to buy athelon just because they think all their customers would blaim it for any and all problems, where they won't blaim intel. So if you take the same 'fear of the newcomer' approach that my work does, then I can understand where you come from.

-skace
 

dougjnn

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Zephyr --

WAY more expensive.

If you made the Dell system comparable on everything beyond cpu, mob, 128meg memory, with the Micron system, it would be WAY more expensive. Because that starting combo is WAY more expensive. Without deliverying to compensate.

That's why its AMD today.

(Although it well could be Intel tomorrow.)

Hell, I hated and scorned AMD in the K-6 days. It all depends upon the goods delivered to me.

I'm loyal to women and kids and friends. Not to computer companies.
 

NOS440

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Zephyr/dougjnn

Hate to tell ya but Dell doesn't offer raid in a home desktop. I'm just saying that I configured a comparable Dell and it was the same money !!! except for raid
 

Zephyr

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<< Hate to tell ya but Dell doesn't offer raid in a home desktop. I'm just saying that I configured a comparable Dell and it was the same money !!! except for raid >>


Oh what do I know.. I do not find anything about Dell to be worth my time ;)