Zephyr please if wattage and heat are not an issue then tell me what is the Palamino release addressing ???? I can tell you if they don't address the Issue there are stuck at 1.2 to 1.3 ghz and that will not do !!!!
MrGrim it is done I would love to see him post a 3Dmark score or Unreal or something that taxes his system hard. The Sisoft stuff is for winnie's totally synthetic and isn't really a benchmark.
MrGrim Oh yea did you miss this Its really air cooled It might as well be in a refrigerator
<< << Cooling - generic compusa case with fop32, cardcooler xts, the case is open and situated towards an open window, the cooling that is generated is amazing! Ambient 63F !!! >> >>
<< << Cooling - generic compusa case with fop32, cardcooler xts, the case is open and situated towards an open window, the cooling that is generated is amazing! Ambient 63F !!! >> >>
<< Zephyr please if wattage and heat are not an issue then tell me what is the Palamino release addressing ???? I can tell you if they don't address the Issue there are stuck at 1.2 to 1.3 ghz and that will not do !!!! >>
The palomino isn't adressing anything, but merely taking it one step further to achieve even higher clockspeedsthan 1500MHz... furthermore there's been screenshots posted of Tbirds hitting 2Ghz on the new KT133A, however those I wouldn't likely believe are stable. However 1500MHz is not unlikely to be stable according to my knowledge about the Tbird
<< MrGrim it is done I would love to see him post a 3Dmark score or Unreal or something that taxes his system hard. The Sisoft stuff is for winnie's totally synthetic and isn't really a benchmark. >>
I'd like to see it do a prof. openGL benchmark
.. UT would be nice too though... it seems to tax the FPU hard whatever its the fastest the T-Bird will run to the fastest mine will run I also know a guy running much higher than I with a 1.5 ghz he is at 1830 he would really put the POS t-bird to shame and we do it with the case closed and a $9 dollar skimpy little heatsink LOL !! with a 3000 rpm fan on it LOL !!
Zephyr yes that is what the Palamino is doing and how ?? It is addressing heat and voltage and you know it. I can't believe you are stooping to these tactics Zephyr are you having a Off day ??
No I'm not blind but mine is stable and its runs anything I throw at it. Bet you can't get him to prove that point so what good is his Benchmarks if the thing won't run there ???? I don't see any real value to a system that has to be cooled by the winter air to run. This whole arguement is stupid again I say lets see some real benchmarks out of the Fire Breather ??
<< Zephyr yes that is what the Palamino is doing and how ?? It is addressing heat and voltage and you know it. >>
It's an issue of terms... by sayin it "adresses" something you imply there's an issue. This is not the case, at this point. However once the P4 moves to .13micron AMD will need to do something too in order to stay competitative, and will need to achieve higher clockspeeds. This is where the palomino fits in.
<< I can't believe you are stooping to these tactics Zephyr are you having a Off day ?? >>
An off day? well it is saturday
.. IIRC << MrGrim it is done I would love to see him post a 3Dmark score or Unreal or something that taxes his system hard. The Sisoft stuff is for winnie's totally synthetic and isn't really a benchmark. >>
And yet earlier you were talking about how the P4 beat the Athlon in that very same benchmark. As soon as someone shows that the Athlon beats the P4, you change tactics.
<< No I'm not blind but mine is stable and its runs anything I throw at it. Bet you can't get him to prove that point so what good is his Benchmarks if the thing won't run there ???? >>
In case you hadn't noticed, not every T-Bird system is unstable. In fact, there are very few stability problems, even though you keep harping on it, I'm sure that emsixteen's O/Ced rig is just as stable as yours. So shut up.
And yet earlier you were talking about how the P4 beat the Athlon in that very same benchmark. As soon as someone shows that the Athlon beats the P4, you change tactics.
<< No I'm not blind but mine is stable and its runs anything I throw at it. Bet you can't get him to prove that point so what good is his Benchmarks if the thing won't run there ???? >>
In case you hadn't noticed, not every T-Bird system is unstable. In fact, there are very few stability problems, even though you keep harping on it, I'm sure that emsixteen's O/Ced rig is just as stable as yours. So shut up.
DarkMajiq How are you so sure of this statement ???
<< In case you hadn't noticed, not every T-Bird system is unstable. In fact, there are very few stability problems, even though you keep harping on it, I'm sure that emsixteen's O/Ced rig is just as stable as yours. >>
If its so stable why the Open window cooling it so shut up!!!!!
<< In case you hadn't noticed, not every T-Bird system is unstable. In fact, there are very few stability problems, even though you keep harping on it, I'm sure that emsixteen's O/Ced rig is just as stable as yours. >>
If its so stable why the Open window cooling it so shut up!!!!!
Zephyr Exactly there is a issue with trying to achieve higher clock speeds with the current Thunderbird and that issue is being addressed with the Palamino and nothing else from what I understand. The reason I am stating this is because of the Benchmark that are being thrown at me here. You really can't call them anything real because the chip will not run at those speeds reliably without super cooling and then its questionable at that.
<< I don't call having to wearing a Artic snowmobile suit to use my PC Stable !!!! >>
Well neither do I. Whats your point?
<< Zephyr Exactly there is a issue with trying to achieve higher clock speeds with the current Thunderbird and that issue is being addressed with the Palamino and nothing else from what I understand. The reason I am stating this is because of the Benchmark that are being thrown at me here. You really can't call them anything real because the chip will not run at those speeds reliably without super cooling and then its questionable at that. >>
What kind of super cooling? LOL $30 Alpha?
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