overtraining

[rasczak]

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Signs of central nervous system fatigue are lethargy, trouble sleeping, overall sleepiness, stalling in improvement, sluggishness, etc. That's often times what overtraining is for most people. Overtraining can also include nagging injuries that aren't healing well, a great deal of soreness (which is a precursor/symptom of rhabdomyolysis), etc. Like it was said, you can go as much as you want, but if you start to feel like you're overtraining, take a step back and go big on form and lower on intensity. You'll still be benefiting your Muay Thai, but will give your body a bit of a break.

i hit the wall six months ago and stopped working out all together. just played b-ball 3 x week. now i'm back in the gym and feel so much better.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: rasczak

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Signs of central nervous system fatigue are lethargy, trouble sleeping, overall sleepiness, stalling in improvement, sluggishness, etc. That's often times what overtraining is for most people. Overtraining can also include nagging injuries that aren't healing well, a great deal of soreness (which is a precursor/symptom of rhabdomyolysis), etc. Like it was said, you can go as much as you want, but if you start to feel like you're overtraining, take a step back and go big on form and lower on intensity. You'll still be benefiting your Muay Thai, but will give your body a bit of a break.

i hit the wall six months ago and stopped working out all together. just played b-ball 3 x week. now i'm back in the gym and feel so much better.

Six months seems a bit prolonged, but yeah overtraining can really effect your quality of life and how you feel about training in general (almost always in the most negative of ways).

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: brikis98


I'd add two examples to support SC's argument:

1. Instead of throwing one power strike, imagine you had to throw 30 in a row, as quickly as you possibly can. You think your form would be just as good on the first kick as on the 30th? It's possible that you will maintain perfect form for each kick, but it's more likely that as your leg fatigues and your heart starts pounding, your kicks will look uglier and uglier. This is especially true for a newbie who hasn't had enough practice to cement his form in place.

2. Deadlift is the classical case of form breakdown with increasing intensity. When I do sets of 3-6, my form usually stays pretty solid. If I try for a new 1RM, or try to do a set of 20, I will often start exhibiting various form errors, such as back rounding.

I see now we just have a communication problem. I thought it was being implied that throwing a power kick or strike could not be done with great form for the technique, which is nonsense, and what I was disputing. The problem is, I failed to understand the context in which you were using intensity. I was referring to power, specifically as it pertains to striking, you are both referring to continuous high energy output, as in the example about throwing flurries.

My comments were meant to be specific to power striking, certainly not dead lifting. And flurrying is anything but power striking, but it was a perfect illustration for helping me understand why we weren't on the same page in this discussion.

The bolded comments I acknowledged from my first comment

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

As you increase intensity, form goes to crap.

Only for those who lack proficiency, or when someone is fatigued.

 

[coreyb]

I've been doing muay thai now for over a year but I recently came back after a layoff. So I don't really need to worry about form or anything as I have that all down. The one poster talking about the "slacker" thing is kind of where I'm at. We have lots of different teachers so they don't really know if how long ive been back at it so they expect me to push myself like everyone else does.

I'm pretty much going to just keep mindful during class to not really go 100% until I feel ready. Hopefully that will only be a month or so.