Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Skoorb
It's "more better" for the country that sucks balls in the first place thoughLook at Mexico. If we opened the borders up entirely Mexico would be better off, while the US would become more like mexico!
Well without the "The Americas Free/Fair Trade Agreement" The US is going to be steeply outpaced by the Europeans. If the US reverts to populism and protectionism, the US WILL be left in the dust by the rest of the world. Thats a FACT.
Right now the US is in between a rock and a hard place. We need to tread carefully. If we become protectionist, we will suffer. If we dont do something to shrink the trade deficit, we will suffer.
And the trade deficit and outsourcing has nothing to do with Bush. We would be in the same exact situation if Gore was Pres, or if Clinton could have had a third term. This is a trend that is long running and is long term. I single two term president wouldnt be able to control it, let alone 3 years.
What you're really saying and supporting is that America and Americans are weak little turds and can't produce our own own product and stay current in High Tech. Shame on you, shame on us for letting that be exactly the case.
We are now number 11 in High Speed Internet Access deployment and dropping fast. That is just one are we are falling by the wayside in a heartbeat. Soon the U.S. will be nothing but a parasite, depending on the rest of the world to feed it like low life leech. Hope you're proud.
Ummm how do you get that out of what I said.
We arent only current in high tech, but we still LEAD the way. With what, 58% of the worlds R&D taking place IN THE US. High tech != IT, programming, or computers.
As for high speed internet access. WTF does the gauge? We havent deployed it all that much, because unlike other countries, companies in the US arent being subsidized to do it.
58% and going down FAST. But you and a few others will be happy when it drops to ZERO.
Why don't you contribute in the research then? It can never go down to zero, we have the best academic institutions in the world.
thats part of the problem, we don't. Sure, our top 20 or so Universities are great, but what percentage of the total college age students go to them? I know tons of people who I come into daily contact with that end up at Community colleges. Many people on here, from what I have read are examples.
More important than this, though, is our K-12 programs. How good are they? I went to an "Exemplary" High School, and when one of my friends moved down from Canada, she commented on how 'EASY' American High Schools are. That, being a High School in a rich, white collar suburb mind you. She was number 4 of our school in no time. She said schooling in Toronto was much harder. I have heard the same thing from Indian kids who literally find the curriculum a joke (those transferring from Indian schools). K-12 school here, is, by and large, EASY, when compared to the curriculums of schools in other nations, particularly those in Asia.
I hated school, and am out of it, so I can advocate this now
I strongly disagree on this one. We have the best academic institutions in the world. It's really pathetic when you see international ranked lists of schools. The US just dominates in it.
High schools and other pre-college education may not be the best, but I don't expect much from them, especially since we have such a large population. Everyone in India doesn't go to school. I don't think it's fair to compare it. I do agree with you though. However, when they get to college, it's a different matter.
yeah, MOST people in India don't go to school. its a land of stark contrasts. but its so damn huge that even if a few percent do, they make up a sizeable population. And the private school business there is booming, because "rich" people, or even the middle class, don't dare let their "kids play/school" with "poor" people.
I have seen the practice guides that sophmores in High School study to get in [to IIT] (the one i saw was from a company called Ariant) - the questions are DAMN, DAMN hard. I mean, probably like 3rd or 4th year EE stuff. I have seen the rankings that you mention, but, I wonder if in reality they aren't giving enough credit to schools outside America. I don't know the reasons for this, not enough data, or maybe their methodology is such that our universities always come out on top, BUT, there are plenty of top schools all around the world, Spain, Singapore, U.K., China, India... we don't see them for some reason. I'm not saying our top schools aren't great, they are, (esp. harvard, MIT, and more)
And while many of our top schools tend to focus on total development, many schools [outside the u.s.] don't care if you can sing, dance, throw a ball, or write poetry. all they care about is the bottom line, grades. its pretty fckd up. In India, every year there are young, bright students that commit suicide if they are not accepted to IIT. Suicide. stupid. I'm pretty sure other Asian nations are like this too. the thing is, if we had a good pool of technical workers, I don't understand why we would have to recruit so many?? It hurts the host country,as well as ours... many would say.
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