Originally posted by: Zebo
I would say no they don't. You don't have to pay the Mujahadeen anything, they fight for free and eat falafel bread and water almost exclusivly. No fancy medivacs, USO, 30 days paid vacation, etc either. If we had something worth fighting over I would too. We need to be getting away from this mercenary Army full of underachievers our pols can use and abuse and back to the basics defense full of people who want to be there for the right reasons (Defense). You don't do that by offering craddle to grave care and benefits. Because wages are so good in USA, Maybe you should provide your own weapon and body armor too. I guess that would sorta put a bit of a damper on all this globe trotting.
You couldn't be further from the truth.Originally posted by: Zebo
I would say no they don't. You don't have to pay the Mujahadeen anything, they fight for free and eat falafel bread and water almost exclusivly. No fancy medivacs, USO, 30 days paid vacation, etc either. If we had something worth fighting over I would too. We need to be getting away from this mercenary Army full of underachievers our pols can use and abuse and back to the basics defense full of people who want to be there for the right reasons (Defense). You don't do that by offering craddle to grave care and benefits. Because wages are so good in USA, Maybe you should provide your own weapon and body armor too. I guess that would sorta put a bit of a damper on all this globe trotting.
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Is there anything wrong with this country that is not Bush's fault in your eyes?Originally posted by: techs
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co...rticle/2007/02/21/AR2007022101179.html
Pentagon Faults Leadership for Walter Reed
Top Pentagon officials today blamed a breakdown in leadership for problems with outpatient care at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and vowed to take quick corrective action.
In a Pentagon briefing, however, the officials said they did not know about the most serious problems until The Washington Post reported on them in a two-part exposé on Sunday and Monday. An "independent review group" is being formed to look into the problems and report back as soon as possible, the officials said.
The Post found recovering soldiers living in squalid conditions in Building 18, with some of the quarters plagued by mold, rot and vermin. The series also documented a larger issue of bureaucratic indifference that soldiers and family members said had demoralized them and impeded recovery.
I agree. I fault leadership. Starting with the Commander in Chief, Bush.
Hundreds of billions for expensive weapons systems, pennies for our troops.
What an outrage.
Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Is there anything wrong with this country that is not Bush's fault in your eyes?Originally posted by: techs
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co...rticle/2007/02/21/AR2007022101179.html
Pentagon Faults Leadership for Walter Reed
Top Pentagon officials today blamed a breakdown in leadership for problems with outpatient care at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and vowed to take quick corrective action.
In a Pentagon briefing, however, the officials said they did not know about the most serious problems until The Washington Post reported on them in a two-part exposé on Sunday and Monday. An "independent review group" is being formed to look into the problems and report back as soon as possible, the officials said.
The Post found recovering soldiers living in squalid conditions in Building 18, with some of the quarters plagued by mold, rot and vermin. The series also documented a larger issue of bureaucratic indifference that soldiers and family members said had demoralized them and impeded recovery.
I agree. I fault leadership. Starting with the Commander in Chief, Bush.
Hundreds of billions for expensive weapons systems, pennies for our troops.
What an outrage.
Harry Truman said it best. "The Buck Stops Here"
George W. Bush and his administration seem to say "The Buck Stopped with the previous Administration"
Originally posted by: Zebo
I would say no they don't. You don't have to pay the Mujahadeen anything, they fight for free and eat falafel bread and water almost exclusivly. No fancy medivacs, USO, 30 days paid vacation, etc either. If we had something worth fighting over I would too. We need to be getting away from this mercenary Army full of underachievers our pols can use and abuse and back to the basics defense full of people who want to be there for the right reasons (Defense). You don't do that by offering craddle to grave care and benefits. Because wages are so good in USA, Maybe you should provide your own weapon and body armor too. I guess that would sorta put a bit of a damper on all this globe trotting.
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
To the Ultra-Left, these war criminals are getting what they deserve.
Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
To the Ultra-Left, these war criminals are getting what they deserve.
more asinine hyperbole...
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
To the Ultra-Left, these war criminals are getting what they deserve.
more asinine hyperbole...
Main Entry: hy·per·bo·le
Pronunciation: hI-'p&r-b&-(")lE
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, from Greek hyperbolE excess, hyperbole, hyperbola, from hyperballein to exceed, from hyper- + ballein to throw -- more at DEVIL
: extravagant exaggeration (as "mile-high ice-cream cones")
The left have treated soldiers as war criminals since Vietnam.
Originally posted by: Arglebargle
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
To the Ultra-Left, these war criminals are getting what they deserve.
more asinine hyperbole...
Main Entry: hy·per·bo·le
Pronunciation: hI-'p&r-b&-(")lE
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, from Greek hyperbolE excess, hyperbole, hyperbola, from hyperballein to exceed, from hyper- + ballein to throw -- more at DEVIL
: extravagant exaggeration (as "mile-high ice-cream cones")
The left have treated soldiers as war criminals since Vietnam.
Gee, which debate trick is that...Hmn Straw Man? Hasty Generalization. Composition. False attribution. Appeal to emotion...
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Wouldn't be good for business. When Bush ask for war appropriations, he will send the absolute minimum needed to the armed services to keep the war effort going, and the absolute maximum to contractors to increase company profits and shareholder satisfaction.
Instead of listening to all that BS you just posted, how about we give one less no-bid contract to KBR (or stop letting them overcharge us by billions) and divert a few hundred million to Walter Reed and giving vets the care they need?Originally posted by: Clinth
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Wouldn't be good for business. When Bush ask for war appropriations, he will send the absolute minimum needed to the armed services to keep the war effort going, and the absolute maximum to contractors to increase company profits and shareholder satisfaction.
Yep, but if our armed forces were staffed to the recommend levels all this out sourcing wouldn't be necessary. as it is we have to hire contractors to support the war effort, to do job we don't have the man power to do. If you?re so upset we higher contractors to support the armed forces volunteer to help and got to the local recruiter.
Remember we have the power to change things by correct action. Most people here have degrees; sign up become an officer lead by example. But instead most of you will sit in chair wine about the taxes, Bush and this war. . But hey give up you security, leave you family and get paid very little. Until then you have ZERO place to bitch.
Yes our Vets desire better. It time we all started to help out, how many of you have volunteer to serve? Gone to your local military base and help with the family readiness group. Help out the single parent who?s SO is overseas, made care package for our troops.
Yes our Vets deserver better from you.
Clinth- 8yr of dedicated serves.
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Instead of listening to all that BS you just posted, how about we give one less no-bid contract to KBR (or stop letting them overcharge us by billions) and divert a few hundred million to Walter Reed and giving vets the care they need?Originally posted by: Clinth
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Wouldn't be good for business. When Bush ask for war appropriations, he will send the absolute minimum needed to the armed services to keep the war effort going, and the absolute maximum to contractors to increase company profits and shareholder satisfaction.
Yep, but if our armed forces were staffed to the recommend levels all this out sourcing wouldn't be necessary. as it is we have to hire contractors to support the war effort, to do job we don't have the man power to do. If you?re so upset we higher contractors to support the armed forces volunteer to help and got to the local recruiter.
Remember we have the power to change things by correct action. Most people here have degrees; sign up become an officer lead by example. But instead most of you will sit in chair wine about the taxes, Bush and this war. . But hey give up you security, leave you family and get paid very little. Until then you have ZERO place to bitch.
Yes our Vets desire better. It time we all started to help out, how many of you have volunteer to serve? Gone to your local military base and help with the family readiness group. Help out the single parent who?s SO is overseas, made care package for our troops.
Yes our Vets deserver better from you.
Clinth- 8yr of dedicated serves.
All of us are already volunteering......hundreds of billions of dollars of our hard earned wages. It's time we spent it properly.
Instead of listening to all that BS you just posted, how about we give one less no-bid contract to KBR (or stop letting them overcharge us by billions) and divert a few hundred million to Walter Reed and giving vets the care they need?Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
To the Ultra-Left, these war criminals are getting what they deserve.
/like good little Germans back in the 30's.....[/quote]Originally posted by: UberNeuman
To the Ultra-Left, these war criminals are getting what they deserve.
You mean like these guys?Originally posted by: GoPackGo
To the Ultra-Left, these war criminals are getting what they deserve.
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
To the Ultra-Left, these war criminals are getting what they deserve.
more asinine hyperbole...
Main Entry: hy·per·bo·le
Pronunciation: hI-'p&r-b&-(")lE
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, from Greek hyperbolE excess, hyperbole, hyperbola, from hyperballein to exceed, from hyper- + ballein to throw -- more at DEVIL
: extravagant exaggeration (as "mile-high ice-cream cones")
The left have treated soldiers as war criminals since Vietnam.