Our universe is one huge computer simulation being run by our descendants?

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http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2019912305_simulation16m.html

Living in a simulated world: UW scientists explore the theory

University of Washington physicists have come up with one way to test whether our universe is a giant computer simulation being run by our descendants.

It is entirely plausible, says University of Washington physics professor Martin Savage, that our universe and everything in it is one huge computer simulation being run by our descendants.

You, me, this newspaper, the room you're sitting in — everything we think of as reality is actually being generated by vast, powerful supercomputers of the future.

If that sounds mind-blowing, Savage and his colleagues think they've come up with a way to test whether it's true.

Their paper, "Constraints on the Universe as a Numerical Simulation," has kindled a lively international discussion about the simulation argument, which was first put forth in 2003 by University of Oxford philosophy professor Nick Bostrom.

A UW News posting explaining Savage's paper has gotten more than 100,000 page views in a week, and ignited theories about the nature of reality and consciousness, the limits on computer networks and musings about what our future selves might be like.

In the paper, the physicists propose looking for a "signature," or pattern, in our universe that also occurs in current small-scale computer simulations. One such pattern might be a limitation in the energy of cosmic rays.

"There are signatures of resource constraints in present-day simulations that are likely to exist as well in simulations in the distant future, including the imprint of an underlying lattice if one is used to model the space-time continuum," Stricherz wrote.

If our world is a computer simulation, "the highest-energy cosmic rays would not travel along the edges of the lattice in the model but would travel diagonally, and they would not interact equally in all directions as they otherwise would be expected to do."

In other words, even supercomputers capable of creating a simulation of the universe would be hobbled by finite resources, and one way we might be able to detect those limits is to look for cosmic rays that don't travel the way they would be expected to travel.

Savage and his team are theorists, not experimentalists. They're not planning to perform such a test, although other physicists have said they're interested in doing so.



Ok. Mind officially blown.
 

Doppel

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Obviously the simulation has accounted for this and will falsely indicate to them that it is not in play. I'm still convinced it is. It's part of the sim to trick them otherwise!
 

Pr0d1gy

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I would like to thank my descendants for the ability to still orgasm in their simulation. Nice work!
 

BladeVenom

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In other words, even supercomputers capable of creating a simulation of the universe would be hobbled by finite resources,

Like limiting how fast something can move in a simulation. Also as something moves faster, time for it would have to slow down, to compensate for the simulations maximum processing rate. ;)

Also the smallest building blocks of the simulation would all need to be the same.
 

brianmanahan

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natto fire

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Yeah Douglas Adams already opened my eyes to this possibility many years ago. Can't say I've given it much thought after hearing much more plausible theories the past couple years.
 

Braznor

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If this simulation is being run by other beings, who is running the simulation for those beings?
 

T_Yamamoto

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I've always wondered if the Sims are playing Sims and that I am being played by the Sims making me part of the Sims game
 

IndyColtsFan

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Their paper, "Constraints on the Universe as a Numerical Simulation," has kindled a lively international discussion about the simulation argument, which was first put forth in 2003 by University of Oxford philosophy professor Nick Bostrom.

LOL
 

Braznor

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If our universe is a simulation, it is also possible that it is an automatic one, something not necessarily needing creators or programmers behind it. One simulation could exist within another one, all of them ordered within each other based on aspects that make them real or virtual or both.
 

brianmanahan

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If our universe is a simulation, it is also possible that it is an automatic one, something not necessarily needing creators or programmers behind it. One simulation could exist within another one, all of them ordered within each other based on aspects that make them real or virtual or both.

if they keep spawning wont we eventually get an OutOfMemoryError?
 

Pray To Jesus

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Infinite regress error.

Occam's razor error

YOLO

Fuck you with a bat; you don't exists. You're just a simulacrum in my world. I'm the only one that's real.
 
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Arcadio

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I'm just waiting for scientists to discover the simulation's easter eggs.
 

tommo123

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if this is true i really hope i can find cheat codes. spawn codes too would be awesome.

spawn mansion
spawn 1billion $
spawn natalie portman

enable endurance

profit!
 

Matthiasa

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Hope they don't start deleting stuff! :p

I also hope they make regular backups!

What do you death is for? :eek:
Obviously things that think use to much memory and processor time.
Dirt is so much easier to simulate then a being.

snip Their paper, "Constraints on ...he matrix the year the last one was released?
 
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Paul98

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We just have to look for the out of place artifacts. Get really strong and be able to cross-over to a world where we are just part of a big MMORPG.

Or the reason why we can't know the spin of a particle till we measure it is because the computer doesn't have enough ram to hold all the information.
 

Jeff7

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Thread merge time?


I'm just waiting for scientists to discover the simulation's easter eggs.
Maybe we already have.
- Electron tunneling: That's the resolution of the simulation - a clipping error at tiny scales.
- Particles spontaneously popping out of the vacuum: The simulation doesn't want to divide by zero, so it creates particles to maintain a nonzero value.
- The Oh-My-God particle: If you've ever played with a gravity simulator program, sometimes you'll get places where the simulator's resolution allows a small object to be flung out of the system at utterly ridiculous speeds. The OMG particle was just another simulator resolution error.
- Matter going at the speed of light: Kind of like trying to push an 8-bit number past 255.
- Photons and electrons acting like both waves and particles: The simulators did that just to screw around.
 

dighn

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maybe we are our descendants, reliving the lives of our ancestors because they are just bored