Our universe is one huge computer simulation being run by our descendants?

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Puppies04

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I think the tech guys must overclock the CPUs on weekends because they seem to go so much faster than mon-fri.
 

reallyscrued

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If this simulation is being run by other beings, who is running the simulation for those beings?

Why don't you apply the same logic for God? If God created this universe...who created God?


Anyway, not a new idea though and not mindblowing. The Matrix, The 13th Floor, Twilight Zone...X-files...The Outer Limits...etc, etc. (Man...I need to read more books.)
 

Hayabusa Rider

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We don't have to have ever existed at all. We could be created by things in a completely different "reality". No concept of that reality might be imaginable to us. Who knows?
 

Red Squirrel

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Makes sense, we are running off a server farm in the cloud. God is the administrator.

Those suggestion boxes you see at church are actually to file bug reports.
 

SlitheryDee

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Yeah, I love that paper. Wasn't it some guys thesis? By the end of it I was starting to believe him.
 

rh71

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Why does it have to be a computer? Why does it have to be mechanical?

Just way too many possibilities to even guess.

And if it's The Sims, did they really put mass murder of innocent school children in there?
 
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Pray To Jesus

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Why don't you apply the same logic for God? If God created this universe...who created God?

You're committing an infinite regress error when you ask that question. Your logic is wrong.

God is the unconditioned reality. See proofs of:

1) There is at least one unconditioned reality
2) Unconditioned reality itself is the simplest possible reality
3) Unconditioned reality itself is unique
4) Unconditioned reality is unrestricted
5) Unconditioned reality is the continuous creator of all else that is
 

BD231

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Why does it have to be a computer? Why does it have to be mechanical?

Just way too many possibilities to even guess.

And if it's The Sims, did they really put mass murder of innocent school children in there?

Some people are glitchy, mainly the white ones. There seems to be a bug inherent with incest.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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You're committing an infinite regress error when you ask that question. Your logic is wrong.
What error is that? There's nothing inconsistent about an infinite regress.

God is the unconditioned reality. See proofs of:

1) There is at least one unconditioned reality
2) Unconditioned reality itself is the simplest possible reality
3) Unconditioned reality itself is unique
4) Unconditioned reality is unrestricted
5) Unconditioned reality is the continuous creator of all else that is

What is this I dont even...
 

tommo123

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nah, if it was real then someone would have messed around and made some mods that screwed the test. like yelling at some goat herder from a burning bush or something :eek:
 

Dr. Zaus

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What error is that? There's nothing inconsistent about an infinite regress.



What is this I dont even...

Why don't you apply the same logic for God? If God created this universe...who created God?


Anyway, not a new idea though and not mindblowing. The Matrix, The 13th Floor, Twilight Zone...X-files...The Outer Limits...etc, etc. (Man...I need to read more books.)

As self-defined God is the primordial state and the final/teleological state. It would be like saying "if light illuminates, what illuminates light"; definitionally it's a nonsense question.

The nonsensical nature of the concept of God is up for debate: but "who created God" is not.
 
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Jeff7

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nah, if it was real then someone would have messed around and made some mods that screwed the test. like yelling at some goat herder from a burning bush or something :eek:
Maybe that's what quasars are.

"I'm gonna turn up the subatomic binding energy levels here, and see what happens to these stars. Weeeeeeee!"

Then suddenly all the stars in the affected galaxy experience a 40,000-fold surge in output, before the whole system goes completely nuts.
 

Braznor

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Something of relevance here :


In some recent developments of theoretical physics stemming from the holographic principle, the Universe is seen fundamentally as an information store, essentially zeroes and ones, organized in much less geometrical fashion and manifesting itself as space-time and particle fields only on a more superficial level. This approach removes the real number system from its foundational role in physics and even prohibits the existence of infinite precision real numbers in the physical universe by considerations based on the Bekenstein bound.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_number#Basic_properties

In physics, the Bekenstein bound is an upper limit on the entropy S, or information I, that can be contained within a given finite region of space which has a finite amount of energy—or conversely, the maximum amount of information required to perfectly describe a given physical system down to the quantum level.[1] It implies that the information of a physical system, or the information necessary to perfectly describe that system, must be finite if the region of space and the energy is finite. In computer science, this implies that there is a maximum information-processing rate for a physical system that has a finite size and energy, and that a Turing machine with unbounded memory is not physically possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bekenstein_bound
 

Braznor

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An interesting aspect of the human brain:

Human brain
An average human brain has a mass of 1.5 kg and a volume of 1260 cm3. The energy (E = mc2) will be 1.34813×1017 J and if the brain is approximate to a sphere then the radius (V = 4πr3/3) will be 6.70030×10−2 m.
The Bekenstein bound (I ≤
2πrE
ħc ln 2
) will be 2.58991×1042 bit and represent the maximum information needed to perfectly recreate the average human brain down to the quantum level (or anything of the same mass and volume). This implies that the number of different states (Ω=2I) of the human brain is at most 107.796405960701×1041

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bekenstein_bound