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feralkid said:
No, that was simply your perception of it. Which you need to examine.

In case you just arrived, this is all about your interpretation of events and how most of the Free World disagrees with your narrow view of leadership.

Calling everyone who disagrees with you "partisan" or an "idiot" does not help your argument.
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Can you show me where in the Constitution the president is our leader? He's the leader of the executive branch of government, period. That's not the same thing as being the captain of the football team.
 
CycloWizard said:
Can you show me where in the Constitution the president is our leader? He's the leader of the executive branch of government, period. That's not the same thing as being the captain of the football team.
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Can you show me where in the Constitution it says he is not?
 
Red Dawn said:
Oh I've admitted that I was wrong on a few occasions. Regarding finding one where you were wrong, I'm not going to bother, you'd just deny that you were wrong like you always do.
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I have admitted I'm wrong before in this forum and others. In this case, I'm demonstrably correct in that delivering motivational addresses is not one of the enumerated duties of the president. You can argue that it's still a good thing for him to do, but you've failed to distinguish fact from opinion and have simply decided that I'm wrong. The problem with your conclusion is that, in the only factual matter here, I'm absolutely correct.
 
CycloWizard said:
Can you show me where in the Constitution the president is our leader? He's the leader of the executive branch of government, period. That's not the same thing as being the captain of the football team.
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Are you kidding?

Now you're attempting to alter the debate to include whether or not the President of the United States is considered our leader?

That's really your response?
 
feralkid said:
Are you kidding?

Now you're attempting to alter the debate to include whether or not the President of the United States is considered our leader?

That's really your response?
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No, I'm not altering the debate at all. You continue to give him titles, duties, and attributes that are not appropriate. I'm simply correcting your factually incorrect statements.
 
Pens1566 said:
Uh, really?

Why did he hate her? I'm sure it was because he cut her off in traffic and not some policy she had a specific view on that he disagreed with. The difference is that the reason for the shooting was political in nature, and federal officials were killed/seriously wounded. This isn't just Bob Smith of Nowhereville was shot in a store robbery.
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[sarcastic tone] Obviously he hated her because Palin put a crosshair on her.

Grow up, the man went crazy, who knows why crazies do what they do? Certainly not me OR you.
 
CycloWizard said:
No, I'm not altering the debate at all. You continue to give him titles, duties, and attributes that are not appropriate. I'm simply correcting your factually incorrect statements.
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Wut?

What statements do you think you are correcting?

I think you've lost track of yourself somewhere.
 
Red Dawn said:
Well I thought this was but you and Cycle are telling me it's not so I don't know what the level a tragedy must achieve to be considered a national tragedy.
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I beleive I've already indicated this was indeed a tragedy and could be considered a national tragedy, just that it wasn't worthy of a prime time presidential speech.

That speech was nothing but political grandstanding. We have other more important issues loomimng ahead that deserve debate much more then this. It's too late too change what happened now.
 
Perknose said:
Get a life, then get a loan you can acquire some dignity and wisdom, perhaps on the installment plan, you fucking small minded asshole.
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I've been banned for less. It's good to be king, eh Jerknose?



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nobodyknows said:
I beleive I've already indicated this was indeed a tragedy and could be considered a national tragedy, just that it wasn't worthy of a prime time presidential speech.

That speech was nothing but political grandstanding. We have other more important issues loomimng ahead that deserve debate much more then this. It's too late too change what happened now.
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Well I guess we just disgree then.
 
nobodyknows said:
I beleive I've already indicated this was indeed a tragedy and could be considered a national tragedy, just that it wasn't worthy of a prime time presidential speech.

That speech was nothing but political grandstanding. We have other more important issues loomimng ahead that deserve debate much more then this. It's too late too change what happened now.
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This is an outstanding post that hits the nail squarely on the head.
 
Pens1566 said:
Uh, really?

Why did he hate her? I'm sure it was because he cut her off in traffic and not some policy she had a specific view on that he disagreed with. The difference is that the reason for the shooting was political in nature,
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Seems it wasn't political in nature, the only people that made it political were the left that immediately blamed Palin, Rush, and Conservatives in general.
 
Red Dawn said:
If you are of the mind that every thing Obama does is wrong.
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As opposed to his supporters who believe he can do no wrong?

Surely there is middle ground where one can support only part of Obama's agenda and not all of it? Or since Obama and his hard core supporters are so much like Bush, have they stolen the NeoCon playbook as well?
 
Red Dawn said:
If you are of the mind that every thing Obama does is wrong.
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I'm of the mind that he followed the words of Rahm Emanuel perfectly ("You never want a serious crisis to go to waste."). Granted this was a tragedy but how does it differ from the thousands of shootings/murders that occur in the US every year? Why doesn't Obama take the time to speak at the other memorials? Why aren't t-shirts passed out at the other memorials?
 
nobodyknows said:
As opposed to his supporters who believe he can do no wrong?

Surely there is middle ground where one can support only part of Obama's agenda and not all of it? Or since Obama and his hard core supporters are so much like Bush, have they stolen the NeoCon playbook as well?
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I'm sure they have.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
I'm of the mind that he followed the words of Rahm Emanuel perfectly ("You never want a serious crisis to go to waste."). Granted this was a tragedy but how does it differ from the thousands of shootings/murders that occur in the US every year? Why doesn't Obama take the time to speak at the other memorials? Why aren't t-shirts passed out at the other memorials?
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Prominent Members of Government were murdered and maimed
Civillians, completely innocent were murdered and maimed
The assilant did this during a time of significant unrest

This wasn't just some simple murder over some drug deal or lovers quarell. With that said, how come you can't figure this out?
 
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