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Discussion Our healthcare mess thanks to Obamacare

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FelixDeCat said:
So I take it you support the current regime and see no room for improvement? Im guessing you are under 50 because things used to be better in the good ole days.
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i'm curious what you think was better in the good ole days. and when exactly were those days?

edit: and for the record, you vote against the people trying to improve america.

i was explaining to my neighbor why the company that is installing fiber optic lines can't use the same lines as the incumbent competitor. and if another company wanted to come in, they'd have to do the exact same thing - cut up the street, lay their lines, and connect all the homes. if it were like electricity, we'd have our choice of internet providers without each one having to install their own set of lines with the associated capital and environmental costs.
 
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Fenixgoon said:
i'm curious what you think was better in the good ole days. and when exactly were those days?

edit: and for the record, you vote against the people trying to improve america.

i was explaining to my neighbor why the company that is installing fiber optic lines can't use the same lines as the incumbent competitor. and if another company wanted to come in, they'd have to do the exact same thing - cut up the street, lay their lines, and connect all the homes. if it were like electricity, we'd have our choice of internet providers without each one having to install their own set of lines with the associated capital and environmental costs.
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Yea, I'd love to have more than 2 terrible choices.
 
Fenixgoon said:
i was explaining to my neighbor why the company that is installing fiber optic lines can't use the same lines as the incumbent competitor. and if another company wanted to come in, they'd have to do the exact same thing - cut up the street, lay their lines, and connect all the homes. if it were like electricity, we'd have our choice of internet providers without each one having to install their own set of lines with the associated capital and environmental costs.
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This is not a luxury I've ever had with electricity, it's always been whatever provider serves the area.
 
FelixDeCat said:
The difference is the premium payment. Higher deductible, lower premium. Lower deductible, higher premium. The difference remains the same, about $3000 annually.

The difference is made up in premium payments so no matter what, the ins company gets that money or doesn’t pay your expenses. Both are the same in the end.
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Why do you hate capitalism, commie?
 
Fenixgoon said:
i'm curious what you think was better in the good ole days. and when exactly were those days?

edit: and for the record, you vote against the people trying to improve america.

i was explaining to my neighbor why the company that is installing fiber optic lines can't use the same lines as the incumbent competitor. and if another company wanted to come in, they'd have to do the exact same thing - cut up the street, lay their lines, and connect all the homes. if it were like electricity, we'd have our choice of internet providers without each one having to install their own set of lines with the associated capital and environmental costs.
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Because it was cheaper back then. Now its prohibitively expensive.
 
FelixDeCat said:
Because it was cheaper back then. Now its prohibitively expensive.
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You are complaining about a for profit healthcare system being too expensive? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

lord, you are dumb. Can you imagine costs now without the Affordable Care Act? Did you ever think of that from that perspective? Of course not. You think it would be cheaper without the additional millions covered and paying into the system spreading the risk? Costs would be even higher than they are now.. You are so convinced of your own genius you can’t grasp the obvious that healthcare costs are rising more slowly than they would otherwise plus we have a corrupt for profit system in place and even have rules where the government can’t negotiate drug prices.

Have you looked at drug prices in other countries? Why are they so much lower? I would ask you to research but you are to busy looking into the shining mirror of you own ignorance while proclaiming you see a genius.
 
APU_Fusion said:
You are complaining about a for profit healthcare system being too expensive? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

lord, you are dumb. Can you imagine costs now without the Affordable Care Act? Did you ever think of that from that perspective? Of course not. You think it would be cheaper without the additional millions covered and paying into the system spreading the risk? Costs would be even higher than they are now.. You are so convinced of your own genius you can’t grasp the obvious that healthcare costs are rising more slowly than they would otherwise plus we have a corrupt for profit system in place and even have rules where the government can’t negotiate drug prices.

Have you looked at drug prices in other countries? Why are they so much lower? I would ask you to research but you are to busy looking into the shining mirror of you own ignorance while proclaiming you see a genius.
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Have you been smoking pot?

Healthcare companies are making too much money because I am being forced to pay almost everything out of pocket. Prior to Obamacare they would set limits on costs to see a doctor ($50 or less), medicine if it was on the formulary ($50 or less). Now you pay 100% of the first $3,000.

Fuck that. 🙂
 
FelixDeCat said:
Have you been smoking pot?

Healthcare companies are making too much money because I am being forced to pay almost everything out of pocket. Prior to Obamacare they would set limits on costs to see a doctor ($50 or less), medicine if it was on the formulary ($50 or less). Now you pay 100% of the first $3,000.

Fuck that. 🙂
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Health care costs have been the number one reason for bankruptcy, even before the ACA was passed.*

What I don’t understand and maybe you can explain it to me, is why don’t you ever fact check yourself before posting? As I’ve mentioned before, your ability to state the exact opposite of reality is amazing.


*except during major financial crisis like the housing implosion.
 
FelixDeCat said:
Have you been smoking pot?

Healthcare companies are making too much money because I am being forced to pay almost everything out of pocket. Prior to Obamacare they would set limits on costs to see a doctor ($50 or less), medicine if it was on the formulary ($50 or less). Now you pay 100% of the first $3,000.

Fuck that. 🙂
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You have no clue what i said because you can’t grasp basic logic

Price high, affordable act passes, prices go up 100%, no affordable care act prices go up 200%

do you get it now you dumb shit. Jesus

personal ancedotes are not statistical analysis. Dummy
 
nakedfrog said:
Listen to this soppy ass whining over and over again about his $3k deductible. Must be utterly shite at picking his stocks to moan this much about three thousand dollars.
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It's much worse than that, and people missed it in the other thread where he started whining about the $3k deductible.

He freely admitted he's personally benefited close to the tune of $300k from covered medical expenses, which is almost assuredly far in excess of what he's ever paid into the system.

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Like I said recently, FDC is basically telling everyone he deserves to be a leech when it comes to health care; but other people who can and do get health coverage under the ACA should just do without it because he wants a lower deductible. There's just no reason to even argue policy with him; he's openly telling us what his moral and ethical stance is! Hint: FYGM.
 
nakedfrog said:
Listen to this soppy ass whining over and over again about his $3k deductible. Must be utterly shite at picking his stocks to moan this much about three thousand dollars.
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Dipshit wants more socialist healthcare for his shit-tier genetics and poor life decisions, as long as he doesn't have to pay a larger pittance of what I can only assume is a shit-tier salary at his shit-tier job, in taxes.

Otherwise dipshit would be against health insurance altogether since he can just pull himself up by his bootstraps and pay for all of his shit-tier genetic and poor life decision healthcare problems out of pocket like a good conservative.
 
He's just a consistent piece of shit, and will never change.

WHy bother. Just draw up the battle lines at this point it's hopeless with these shitstains on humanity.
 
MrSquished said:
He's just a consistent piece of shit, and will never change.

WHy bother. Just draw up the battle lines at this point it's hopeless with these shitstains on humanity.
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I just want to see if the light bulb ever comes on at some point. Sometimes when you say or type something, it hits you "ooooo, I'm the problem"
 
nakedfrog said:
Listen to this soppy ass whining over and over again about his $3k deductible. Must be utterly shite at picking his stocks to moan this much about three thousand dollars.
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I know rich guys like you dont care about the average working man, thats why you support poor healthcare we have now. 🙁
 
manly said:
It's much worse than that, and people missed it in the other thread where he started whining about the $3k deductible.

He freely admitted he's personally benefited close to the tune of $300k from covered medical expenses, which is almost assuredly far in excess of what he's ever paid into the system.

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Like I said recently, FDC is basically telling everyone he deserves to be a leech when it comes to health care; but other people who can and do get health coverage under the ACA should just do without it because he wants a lower deductible. There's just no reason to even argue policy with him; he's openly telling us what his moral and ethical stance is! Hint: FYGM.
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I am fair minded and and want low cost healthcare for all. But those greedy insurance companies need to pay their fair share. Instead that heartless Obama gave us all screwball coverage so 1 or 2% would benefit (those who have claims in the hundredes of thousand or millions a year in health coverage) and he could pat himself on the back.

Hopefully you get it now.
 
FelixDeCat said:
Have you been smoking pot?

Healthcare companies are making too much money because I am being forced to pay almost everything out of pocket. Prior to Obamacare they would set limits on costs to see a doctor ($50 or less), medicine if it was on the formulary ($50 or less). Now you pay 100% of the first $3,000.

Fuck that. 🙂
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jesus fucking christ you are one dumb motherfucker.
 
FelixDeCat said:
I am fair minded and and want low cost healthcare for all. But those greedy insurance companies need to pay their fair share. Instead that heartless Obama gave us all screwball coverage so 1 or 2% would benefit (those who have claims in the hundredes of thousand or millions a year in health coverage) and he could pat himself on the back.

Hopefully you get it now.
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The problem is you don’t get it. You are the one who keeps voting for more of the same, at best, or more of profits before people type policies.

So why aren’t you getting it?
 
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